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bk 10-02-2003 02:55 PM

gallons per fish
 
I've seen the ratio of 100 gallons per Koi.

We;; Koi come in many sizes. Is this for a six inch or 16" fish.

Currently I have about six Fantails three 4" comets and 3 4-6" koi in a 1200
gallon pond.

I want to find a new home for the comets and get a couple of larger koi
(6-8")

any advise??



John Rutz 10-02-2003 03:25 PM

gallons per fish
 


bk wrote:
I've seen the ratio of 100 gallons per Koi.

We;; Koi come in many sizes. Is this for a six inch or 16" fish.

Currently I have about six Fantails three 4" comets and 3 4-6" koi in a 1200
gallon pond.

I want to find a new home for the comets and get a couple of larger koi
(6-8")

any advise??



curent theory 1000 gal for 1 Koi 100 g each aditional
Koi can grow from 6 in to 16 in in one good summer

--
John Rutz

I'm not Porg am not am not am so
see my pond at:
http://www.fuerjefe.com


Lee Brouillet 10-02-2003 03:25 PM

gallons per fish
 
John's correct, but you can increase the number if you have excellent water
parameters and over-filtration. Gotta keep an eye on it, but it can be done.
It seems that as soon as you have enough fish in your pond to make it look
nice, it's too many. And (they forgot to tell me this, too!), if you don't
kill them, they GROW. and BREED. Keep your water squeeky clean.

Lee

"bk" wrote in message
...
I've seen the ratio of 100 gallons per Koi.

We;; Koi come in many sizes. Is this for a six inch or 16" fish.

Currently I have about six Fantails three 4" comets and 3 4-6" koi in a

1200
gallon pond.

I want to find a new home for the comets and get a couple of larger koi
(6-8")

any advise??





bk 10-02-2003 05:26 PM

gallons per fish
 
So I've really got room for 3 koi.
Per these instructions the fantails gotta go.
Or ----
How many fantails can I have with normal filtration?
"John Rutz" wrote in message
...


bk wrote:
I've seen the ratio of 100 gallons per Koi.

We;; Koi come in many sizes. Is this for a six inch or 16" fish.

Currently I have about six Fantails three 4" comets and 3 4-6" koi in a

1200
gallon pond.

I want to find a new home for the comets and get a couple of larger koi
(6-8")

any advise??



curent theory 1000 gal for 1 Koi 100 g each aditional
Koi can grow from 6 in to 16 in in one good summer

--
John Rutz

I'm not Porg am not am not am so
see my pond at:
http://www.fuerjefe.com




Sam Hopkins 10-02-2003 05:55 PM

gallons per fish
 
In aquariums it's 1 inch of fish per gallon of water. If you use a fluidizer
it goes up to 12 inches of fish per gallon.

Sam

"bk" wrote in message
...
I've seen the ratio of 100 gallons per Koi.

We;; Koi come in many sizes. Is this for a six inch or 16" fish.

Currently I have about six Fantails three 4" comets and 3 4-6" koi in a

1200
gallon pond.

I want to find a new home for the comets and get a couple of larger koi
(6-8")

any advise??





mad 10-02-2003 07:25 PM

gallons per fish
 
actually, that measurement is for tropicals, i understand. for goldies it's
10 gals/fish. i am willing to be corrected if necessary.
mad
--
"What the world really needs is more love and less paperwork".
Pearl Bailey

From: "Sam Hopkins"
Organization: Marconi
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:56:20 -0500
Subject: gallons per fish

In aquariums it's 1 inch of fish per gallon of water. If you use a fluidizer
it goes up to 12 inches of fish per gallon.

Sam

"bk" wrote in message
...
I've seen the ratio of 100 gallons per Koi.

We;; Koi come in many sizes. Is this for a six inch or 16" fish.

Currently I have about six Fantails three 4" comets and 3 4-6" koi in a

1200
gallon pond.

I want to find a new home for the comets and get a couple of larger koi
(6-8")

any advise??







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BenignVanilla 10-02-2003 07:25 PM

gallons per fish
 
What is a fluidizer?

"Sam Hopkins" wrote in message
.. .
In aquariums it's 1 inch of fish per gallon of water. If you use a

fluidizer
it goes up to 12 inches of fish per gallon.

Sam

"bk" wrote in message
...
I've seen the ratio of 100 gallons per Koi.

We;; Koi come in many sizes. Is this for a six inch or 16" fish.

Currently I have about six Fantails three 4" comets and 3 4-6" koi in a

1200
gallon pond.

I want to find a new home for the comets and get a couple of larger koi
(6-8")

any advise??







Sam Hopkins 10-02-2003 08:55 PM

gallons per fish
 
It's a filter that holds sand. A pump pumps water up and through the sand
and back into the tank. When you look at the clear filter container you'll
see a container full of swirling sand. My fluidizer is about 3 inches X 14
inches X 2 inches. What it does is provide 234 square feet of space for
bacteria to grow on. This extra space for bacteria allows more bacteria to
be present and convert ammonia/nitrite/nitrate into nitrate.

Sam

"BenignVanilla" wrote in
message ...
What is a fluidizer?

"Sam Hopkins" wrote in message
.. .
In aquariums it's 1 inch of fish per gallon of water. If you use a

fluidizer
it goes up to 12 inches of fish per gallon.

Sam

"bk" wrote in message
...
I've seen the ratio of 100 gallons per Koi.

We;; Koi come in many sizes. Is this for a six inch or 16" fish.

Currently I have about six Fantails three 4" comets and 3 4-6" koi in

a
1200
gallon pond.

I want to find a new home for the comets and get a couple of larger

koi
(6-8")

any advise??









bk 11-02-2003 01:25 PM

gallons per fish
 
Sounds like this would last about two weeks in a pond
"Sam Hopkins" wrote in message
.. .
It's a filter that holds sand. A pump pumps water up and through the sand
and back into the tank. When you look at the clear filter container you'll
see a container full of swirling sand. My fluidizer is about 3 inches X 14
inches X 2 inches. What it does is provide 234 square feet of space for
bacteria to grow on. This extra space for bacteria allows more bacteria to
be present and convert ammonia/nitrite/nitrate into nitrate.

Sam

"BenignVanilla" wrote in
message ...
What is a fluidizer?

"Sam Hopkins" wrote in message
.. .
In aquariums it's 1 inch of fish per gallon of water. If you use a

fluidizer
it goes up to 12 inches of fish per gallon.

Sam

"bk" wrote in message
...
I've seen the ratio of 100 gallons per Koi.

We;; Koi come in many sizes. Is this for a six inch or 16" fish.

Currently I have about six Fantails three 4" comets and 3 4-6" koi

in
a
1200
gallon pond.

I want to find a new home for the comets and get a couple of larger

koi
(6-8")

any advise??











MWLienhart 14-02-2003 12:03 AM

gallons per fish
 
If you want to get a better way of calculating fish load there is a formula on
the Koivet site that is far more accurate than using the old myth formulas of
inches per gallon. One problem with the inches per gallon method is that one
12" fish weighs the same as almost 200 two inch fish. The formula there can
still be off by at least half (some fish are thin, some thick) but that is far
better than the old method which really only works well when comparing fish of
all the same size.

Mikel

~ jan 15-02-2003 12:39 AM

gallons per fish
 
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:10:02 -0500, "bk" wrote:

Sounds like this would last about two weeks in a pond


Goldfish, in an aquarium, I agree with mad 10/fish. Outside with mother
nature tossing in her own debris I think it's more like 20
gallons/goldfish, still... adequate filtration is key.

I put 2 fantails in my lily pond of 1,000 gallons with no filtration,
fantails are not as prolific as comets.

I have 15 koi in 1500 gallons, super filtration. Now that they getting
larger I'm starting to cull the herd. ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

MISSYMAGICGIRL 15-02-2003 04:00 PM

gallons per fish
 
I have Hopefully 12 Koi's still after this winter, in a 1,100 gallon pond. I
have good filteration and plants galore. Me and my hubby will be looking for a
house I think by the time they get too large for this pond.



Sacha

RichToyBox 15-02-2003 09:39 PM

gallons per fish
 
Sacha,

Going to buy a house this summer, huh.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"MISSYMAGICGIRL" wrote in message
...
I have Hopefully 12 Koi's still after this winter, in a 1,100 gallon pond.

I
have good filteration and plants galore. Me and my hubby will be looking

for a
house I think by the time they get too large for this pond.



Sacha




Howard 15-02-2003 10:51 PM

gallons per fish
 
I'll bet you think RichToyBox was kidding.
A friend of mine put in a pond last summer.
He expanded it in the fall and is talking about
making it larger this winter ! This is not
uncommon.

Its not a hobby its an addiction.

Howard

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:Eey3a.124408$be.90444@rwcrnsc53...
Sacha,

Going to buy a house this summer, huh.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"MISSYMAGICGIRL" wrote in message
...
I have Hopefully 12 Koi's still after this winter, in a 1,100 gallon

pond.
I
have good filteration and plants galore. Me and my hubby will be looking

for a
house I think by the time they get too large for this pond.



Sacha






Howard 16-02-2003 12:15 AM

gallons per fish
 
I am in the same boat (execpt for the kids thing :) ). Also need space
for more workshops, ponds, greenhouses, ponds in greenhouses, and
about a half dozen old cars.

We have two ponds that total about 10k gallons. The large informal
one is for koi and lots of plants. The formal is goldfish and mostly water
lillies. In the fall I bring the goldfish inside, move the koi to the
formal
pond and put a hoophouse over it for the winter. We do not heat it
but the water stays open all winter and we get a head start on spring.
www.howardTheHumble.com This fall we used 2 inch steel pipes as
a backbone for the hoophouse in that it had grown too big to be PVC
alone.

Howard


"MISSYMAGICGIRL" wrote in message
...
I know he was kidding! :) I need more land, not only for thoses damm fish

but
for me to have a Green House, of course a larger pond and some land for me

to
plant and the kids to play when I have them in the future.

Damm Fish! hehe


Sacha





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