Sharing a pond vac
Our pond society is considering is considering buying a Pond o Vac 3 or 2
for use by the membership at a small rental/maintenance fee. We have not worked out all the details but one major one has come up: What would have to be done to insure that if one pond had KHV or just bad bacterial and parasites, that it did not get transfered to other ponds? I don't know if anyone has a legal background but how 'legal' would we have to be to insure against someone suing (successfully) because they lost fish due to possible cross contamination. Bill Brister - Austin, Texas |
Sharing a pond vac
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humBill wrote: Our pond society is considering is considering buying a Pond o Vac 3 or 2 for use by the membership at a small rental/maintenance fee. We have not worked out all the details but one major one has come up: What would have to be done to insure that if one pond had KHV or just bad bacterial and parasites, that it did not get transfered to other ponds? Why couldn't you just sterilize it by running 70% isopropanol through it for a few hours? Potassium permanganate, dark enouh to obscure light or 24 hours in a salt solution are also recommended (by Untergasser) sterilizers. I don't know if anyone has a legal background but how 'legal' would we have to be to insure against someone suing (successfully) because they lost fish due to possible cross contamination. Anybody can sue you anytime in America. There's nothing you can do about that. Whether their suit has any merit and how to prtect yourself against litigation are questions for a competant attorney in good standing in your are and only a fool would take guesses from usenet about legal issues. -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
Sharing a pond vac
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:33:39 GMT, "humBill" wrote:
Our pond society is considering is considering buying a Pond o Vac 3 or 2 for use by the membership at a small rental/maintenance fee. We have not worked out all the details but one major one has come up: What would have to be done to insure that if one pond had KHV or just bad bacterial and parasites, that it did not get transfered to other ponds? I don't know if anyone has a legal background but how 'legal' would we have to be to insure against someone suing (successfully) because they lost fish due to possible cross contamination. Bill Brister - Austin, Texas A ratio of bleach & water is usually the standard method for cleaning something. There might be something regarding this at the AKCA.org website or Google for it. ~ jan -------------- See my ponds and filter design: www.jjspond.us ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
Sharing a pond vac
Thanks for your suggestions. Anything involving 'running' the system for
very long seems impractical as we definitely talking about the wand, hose etc so this would require quite a 'loop'. It is interesting. I have called a couple of pond maintenance services around here. It is pretty clear to me that they are suggesting a way to clean it, but it is not there normal practice. I will continue looking. Bill "~ janj" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:33:39 GMT, "humBill" wrote: Our pond society is considering is considering buying a Pond o Vac 3 or 2 for use by the membership at a small rental/maintenance fee. We have not worked out all the details but one major one has come up: What would have to be done to insure that if one pond had KHV or just bad bacterial and parasites, that it did not get transfered to other ponds? I don't know if anyone has a legal background but how 'legal' would we have to be to insure against someone suing (successfully) because they lost fish due to possible cross contamination. Bill Brister - Austin, Texas A ratio of bleach & water is usually the standard method for cleaning something. There might be something regarding this at the AKCA.org website or Google for it. ~ jan -------------- See my ponds and filter design: www.jjspond.us ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
Sharing a pond vac
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:12:36 GMT, humBill wrote:
Thanks for your suggestions. Anything involving 'running' the system for very long seems impractical as we definitely talking about the wand, hose etc so this would require quite a 'loop'. It is interesting. I have called a couple of pond maintenance services around here. It is pretty clear to me that they are suggesting a way to clean it, but it is not there normal practice. Isn't it just anything that goes in the water that needs disinfecting. They don't filter the water and put it back in do they? The insides of the wand/hose only have water that's being thrown away so all you really need to do is spray the outside with a disinfectant I would have thought. -- Regards - Rodney Pont The from address exists but is mostly dumped, please send any emails to the address below e-mail ngpsm4 (at) infohitsystems (dot) ltd (dot) uk |
Sharing a pond vac
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:12:36 GMT, "humBill" wrote:
Thanks for your suggestions. Anything involving 'running' the system for very long seems impractical as we definitely talking about the wand, hose etc so this would require quite a 'loop'. It is interesting. I have called a couple of pond maintenance services around here. It is pretty clear to me that they are suggesting a way to clean it, but it is not there normal practice. Boy, howdy, I can believe that. Pond Cleaning Professionals, and I use the term lightly in this case, probably know a lot about getting the muck out. Koi/Goldfish health is a whole foreign concept. Around here we have quite a few people who can built magnificent waterfalls, just about every high-end professional building locally sprouts one now days. But quiz them on bottom drains and filtration for fish and that's where their expertise stops. Unfortunately we have too many nonprofessional professional waterfall builders who can talk a good game just to get business. (Consumer: "Love the waterfall, hate the pond" comments heard.) s Beware the buyer, behold the internet before buying. ~ jan -------------- See my ponds and filter design: www.jjspond.us ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
Sharing a pond vac
Moments before spontaneously combusting Rodney Pont at
was heard opining: Isn't it just anything that goes in the water that needs disinfecting. They don't filter the water and put it back in do they? The insides of the wand/hose only have water that's being thrown away so all you really need to do is spray the outside with a disinfectant I would have thought. ===================== Which may or may not kill viruses. After losing almost every fish I had to contagious ulcers a few years ago I would rather buy my own vac than borrow one. -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Sharing a pond vac
As another poster has said, anyone can sue anyone it seems, so t may be
dificult to avoid a lawsuit. I have a sample waiver I could send to you that might work. Also, the whole point in suing someone is to get compensation for damages, real or imagined. If the pond society has no money and no insurance there really isn't much point in suing - the plaintiff has all the expense and at the end of the process there is no money to pay him anything. Lastly, to be successful the plaintiff has to show that the pond vac caused the alleged contamination and not some other cause (wading birds, ducks etc,newly purchased fish or plants). This would be harder, I think, re a pond than it would, say for an indoor aquarium. Just my $.,02 "humBill" wrote in message t... Our pond society is considering is considering buying a Pond o Vac 3 or 2 for use by the membership at a small rental/maintenance fee. We have not worked out all the details but one major one has come up: What would have to be done to insure that if one pond had KHV or just bad bacterial and parasites, that it did not get transfered to other ponds? I don't know if anyone has a legal background but how 'legal' would we have to be to insure against someone suing (successfully) because they lost fish due to possible cross contamination. Bill Brister - Austin, Texas |
Sharing a pond vac
Thanks for your reply - I just say it. Yes I do understand that anyone CAN
sue, which is why I said succesfully. If you are willing, please do send me the waiver, although I must admit if we do it I may very well get a lawyer to draw up one. Unfortunately, we actually do have enough money that someone might think we are a bona fide target (around $15k). Bill "Doug Brown" wrote in message ... As another poster has said, anyone can sue anyone it seems, so t may be dificult to avoid a lawsuit. I have a sample waiver I could send to you that might work. Also, the whole point in suing someone is to get compensation for damages, real or imagined. If the pond society has no money and no insurance there really isn't much point in suing - the plaintiff has all the expense and at the end of the process there is no money to pay him anything. Lastly, to be successful the plaintiff has to show that the pond vac caused the alleged contamination and not some other cause (wading birds, ducks etc,newly purchased fish or plants). This would be harder, I think, re a pond than it would, say for an indoor aquarium. Just my $.,02 "humBill" wrote in message t... Our pond society is considering is considering buying a Pond o Vac 3 or 2 for use by the membership at a small rental/maintenance fee. We have not worked out all the details but one major one has come up: What would have to be done to insure that if one pond had KHV or just bad bacterial and parasites, that it did not get transfered to other ponds? I don't know if anyone has a legal background but how 'legal' would we have to be to insure against someone suing (successfully) because they lost fish due to possible cross contamination. Bill Brister - Austin, Texas |
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