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Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
Check your headers.
I'm the real Koi-Lo and I post through Shared-Secrets.com, a ligitimate NS and my ISP is Direcway.com. When SS is down I may post through Zapto. My ISP is still Direcway.com (soon to be Hughes.net). *Note: The other Koi-Lo posts through Google 99% of the time and uses disposable e-mail accounts such as @gmail or @mailonator. He sometimes forges my headers but the ISP# is a dead-givaway. From: "Koi-lo" - is the 2nd Koi-Lo Organization: http://groups.google.com - is where he posts from. NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.204.10.174 - is his ISP which is: Verizon Internet Services Inc. VIS-151-196 (NET-151-196-0-0-1) 151.196.0.0 - 151.205.255.255 Verizon Internet Services VZ-DSLDIAL-CRHLNJ-1 (NET-151-204-9-0-1) 151.204.9.0 - 151.204.27.255 I hope this avoids confusion in the future. -- Koi-Lo.... Troll Information: http://tinyurl.com/9zbh http://tinyurl.com/d8e4 http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/ Reading Headers: http://tinyurl.com/amm9s *Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the Aquaria Groups.* ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
"Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... Check your headers. Why should I, or anyone else, have to waste time checking headers because you insist on acting like an asshole by going around Usenet ****ing people off and shitting on their beliefs. |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
... Check your headers. I'm the real Koi-Lo and I post through Shared-Secrets.com, a ligitimate NS and my ISP is Direcway.com. When SS is down I may post through Zapto. My ISP is still Direcway.com (soon to be Hughes.net). You are not the real Koi-Lo, I am. Stop trying to slander me. |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
"Altum" wrote in message As for ****ing people off, there is no way to discuss religion and not **** someone off somewhere. Going into a religion NG and telling people there is no God and their religion is bullshit is not a discussion, it is rude, insulting and inflammatory. When you go around being rude, insulting and inflammatory to people, for any reason, (and she has behaved this way all over Usenet)don't cry innocence like Koi-lo does. She is DIRECTLY responsible for the baggage she drags from NG to NG. |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
Kelly wrote:
"Altum" wrote in message As for ****ing people off, there is no way to discuss religion and not **** someone off somewhere. Going into a religion NG and telling people there is no God and their religion is bullshit is not a discussion, it is rude, insulting and inflammatory. When you go around being rude, insulting and inflammatory to people, for any reason, (and she has behaved this way all over Usenet)don't cry innocence like Koi-lo does. She is DIRECTLY responsible for the baggage she drags from NG to NG. I always try to abide by the "never discuss politics or religion" with friends.....however, IMHO the whole point of newsgroups is to discuss these things - especially when it comes down to groups specifically set up for the discussion of religion and politics (and yes even in ponds our opinions will vary and we will flame one another)...it would be a very tame and boring newsgroup if one of you posted something and twenty others posted "I agree". It isn't insulting, rude or inflammatory - it is called debate...remember that? Surely if someone comes onto your newsgroup to offer a different opinion it is for you and the other members to debate this - not take offence....you never know you might even get a convert by good, reasoned discussion.... The bottom line, is whatever Koi-Lo does with respect to discussing her beliefs it does not belong, nor should it be dragged over to a pond newsgroup....it is not baggage....it is strongly held beliefs being opposed by others holding equally strong beliefs...so what? Isn't that, as I said before, what your newsgroups are about....debate....and the dragging over to other newsgroups applies to others....you all make good points on the groups where you belong - one thing for sure, is you don't belong on rec.ponds. As for the crusades...what about the religious wars we have right now???? No don't answer that...this is a pond group - Got any fish Kelly, Jabbers etc???? I know Roy and Carol do - and therefore when posting on topic are most welcome members.... Gill |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
"Gill Passman" wrote in message ? Surely if someone comes onto your newsgroup to offer a different opinion it is for you and the other members to debate this - not take offence o.k. then, what if I come here and say ponds suck and only assholes have ponds. Would that be a prelude to a discussion or an inflammatory remark? same difference |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
Kelly wrote:
"Gill Passman" wrote in message ? Surely if someone comes onto your newsgroup to offer a different opinion it is for you and the other members to debate this - not take offence o.k. then, what if I come here and say ponds suck and only assholes have ponds. Would that be a prelude to a discussion or an inflammatory remark? same difference This happens all the time. Most folks would ignore the post. Some people would flame you for the sheer fun of it. Others would accuse you of trolling. Still others would try to change your mind. Sometimes interesting on-topic discussions ensue from even clear troll posts. If you kept posting that ponds suck over and over, we would killfile you. If you kept shifting your name and email so that we couldn't killfile you, we would check your headers, contact your ISP en masse, and get your account pulled. Reputable ISPs still block Usenet to abusive users. Back in the old Usenet days, we would have crashed your mail server too, just to be sure your account got pulled. After that happened, you might get a clue that you had done something wrong. However, if you were really crazy, you would go to Google groups or to anonymous remailers and start posting under a bunch of different names... Is this starting to sound familiar? Who here has to post through Google Groups? -- Put the word aquaria in the subject to reply. Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds - very, very off-topic - sorry
Kelly wrote:
"Gill Passman" wrote in message ? Surely if someone comes onto your newsgroup to offer a different opinion it is for you and the other members to debate this - not take offence o.k. then, what if I come here and say ponds suck and only assholes have ponds. Would that be a prelude to a discussion or an inflammatory remark? same difference Slightly different...as the disucssion on ponds is very different to a religious debate....a lot of people hold very strong beliefs as to whether there is a god or not, what form that god takes and what good practices (for want of a better phrase should be followed)...hence your newsgroups - and good on you - healthy debate is a good thing and by the very nature of the subject it will become heated...but it does belong on your groups not on the pond group. Ponds are only debated in terms of the best practices and how to keep them, not generally, the personalities or religious/political beliefs of those that choose to have them...the whole question of God or a variety of ways of worshipping him/her if he/she does exist is a topic that has been debated for centuries and people hold strong opinions on the subject - not the same thing at all...and these discussions quite rightly belong on the groups where these subjects are discussed - and that is fine by me...but obviously not with you...I take it you are the one post and twenty agreeing post school then.... In the greater scale of things ponds don't even come close to this type of debate...additionally people who wish to discuss ponds may/may not chose to discuss religion. If they do wish to do so - they do it on the appropriate group....there is no comparison between someone challenging someone's religious or political beliefs and making a petty insult...if you see someone who disagrees with you as being inflammatory then you no longer have a mind receptive to debate or tolerance... Gill |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
"Altum" wrote in message If you kept shifting your name and email so that we couldn't killfile you, like Koi-lo has done all over Usenet for years? |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
Seems like only you and a few others really givews a rats ass one way
or another.I sure as hell don;t give a rats ass about how many koi los are on the forums.Hell I think I just may become koi lo myself.hows them freaking bananas there carol On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:24:25 -0500, "Koi-Lo" wrote: x-Check your headers. x- x-I'm the real Koi-Lo and I post through Shared-Secrets.com, a ligitimate NS x-and my ISP is Direcway.com. When SS is down I may post through Zapto. My x-ISP is still Direcway.com (soon to be Hughes.net). x- x-*Note: x-The other Koi-Lo posts through Google 99% of the time and uses disposable x-e-mail accounts such as @gmail or @mailonator. He sometimes forges my x-headers but the ISP# is a dead-givaway. x- x-From: "Koi-lo" - is the 2nd Koi-Lo x-Organization: http://groups.google.com - is where he posts from. x-NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.204.10.174 - is his ISP which is: x- x-Verizon Internet Services Inc. VIS-151-196 (NET-151-196-0-0-1) x- 151.196.0.0 - 151.205.255.255 x-Verizon Internet Services VZ-DSLDIAL-CRHLNJ-1 (NET-151-204-9-0-1) x- 151.204.9.0 - 151.204.27.255 x- x- x-I hope this avoids confusion in the future. |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
The hell you say.I am the real koi lo. On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:59:13 GMT, "Koi-Lo" wrote: x-"Koi-Lo" wrote in message ... x- Check your headers. x- x- I'm the real Koi-Lo and I post through Shared-Secrets.com, a ligitimate NS x- and my ISP is Direcway.com. When SS is down I may post through Zapto. My x- ISP is still Direcway.com (soon to be Hughes.net). x- x- x-You are not the real Koi-Lo, I am. Stop trying to slander me. x- |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
I say it would be on topic as it has to do with ponds and your entitled to your opinion. On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:40:30 GMT, "Kelly" wrote: x- x-"Gill Passman" wrote in message ? Surely x-if someone comes onto your x- newsgroup to offer a different opinion it is for you and the other members x- to debate this - not take offence x- x- x-o.k. then, what if I come here and say ponds suck and only assholes have x-ponds. x-Would that be a prelude to a discussion or an inflammatory remark? x-same difference x- |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:40:30 GMT, "Kelly" wrote:
"Gill Passman" wrote in message ? Surely if someone comes onto your newsgroup to offer a different opinion it is for you and the other members to debate this - not take offence o.k. then, what if I come here and say ponds suck and only assholes have ponds. Would that be a prelude to a discussion or an inflammatory remark? same difference Well, if you made that posting here, it could be the seed for a discussion, as some of us might be curious why you have such strong feelings about ponds, ponders, and assholes. Perhaps you lost a favorite goldfish when you were a child, or perhaps the mean old man next door wouldn't let you play by his pond, or perhaps you dated an asshole. All good reasons for not liking ponds, ponders and assholes. (Yes, I also think it's fun typing asshole in a public forum. I got to type it 4 times here.) If you present convincing arguments, in a calm and respectful manner, you might just convert a ponder to your way of thinking. -- Mister Gardener |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds
Truer words were never spoken... On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:19:29 GMT, "Kelly" wrote: x- x-"Altum" wrote in message x-If you kept shifting your name and email so that we couldn't killfile x- you, x- x-like Koi-lo has done all over Usenet for years? x- x- |
Two Koi-Lo's on rec.ponds - very, very off-topic - sorry
Gill Passman wrote:
Kelly wrote: "Gill Passman" wrote in message ? Surely if someone comes onto your newsgroup to offer a different opinion it is for you and the other members to debate this - not take offence o.k. then, what if I come here and say ponds suck and only assholes have ponds. Would that be a prelude to a discussion or an inflammatory remark? same difference Slightly different...as the disucssion on ponds is very different to a religious debate....a lot of people hold very strong beliefs as to whether there is a god or not, what form that god takes and what good practices (for want of a better phrase should be followed)...hence your newsgroups - and good on you - healthy debate is a good thing and by the very nature of the subject it will become heated...but it does belong on your groups not on the pond group. Ponds are only debated in terms of the best practices and how to keep them, not generally, the personalities or religious/political beliefs of those that choose to have them...the whole question of God or a variety of ways of worshipping him/her if he/she does exist is a topic that has been debated for centuries and people hold strong opinions on the subject - not the same thing at all...and these discussions quite rightly belong on the groups where these subjects are discussed - and that is fine by me...but obviously not with you...I take it you are the one post and twenty agreeing post school then.... In the greater scale of things ponds don't even come close to this type of debate...additionally people who wish to discuss ponds may/may not chose to discuss religion. If they do wish to do so - they do it on the appropriate group....there is no comparison between someone challenging someone's religious or political beliefs and making a petty insult...if you see someone who disagrees with you as being inflammatory then you no longer have a mind receptive to debate or tolerance... Gill Hi Kelly, Maybe you should mail me...and we can discuss this...my email is very easy to work out....at least then we can keep it off the newsgroups to the benefit of all Gill Gill |
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