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Sadly supporting moderation
Calling all those so called other posters trolls is sure bad taste
Carol when yu are perhaps the opworst troll and disease that usenet or any other forum never had the opportunity of having aorund. YOur far form a regular anything but troll you are the main reason things are like they are right now. YOU try to speak like a person with a mission yet your shaking in yur tracks as your habits will be curtailed with a moderated group.......... So as the center stage spot light slowly moves off CArol and her sock puppets, Carol is seen to get all sulled up and crying for her mommy or anyone else that will still hear her pityfull pleas that folks are out toget her for no reason at all........... On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:07:57 -0600, Köi-Lö wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Phyllis and I have come to favor the effort to have a moderated version of rec.ponds. It appears that everyone agrees. There's no choice left for the regulars. We would like a rec.ponds where anyone can post and their content would be the determiner of whether their post goes up. Before we began to see so much personal animosity on rp, the posts were overwhelmingly supportive and off-topic messages were marked 'OT'. They were mostly friendly interaction between friends. Which is as it should be. But on-topic content isn't always considered and personalities become involved as was the case with the moderated Google Aquarium group. Sadly, we have now reached a point where the majority of the posts - especially crossposts - are conflictual rather than pond-related. That defeats the purpose of the group and it has been entrenched long enough that we are not hopeful that conflictual posters will shift to consistent constructive posting. Returning conflict for conflict simply perpetuates and escalates the conflict. Because of what the other NG calls "mission posters." We call them trolls. They're not interested in rec.ponds and several of them don't even own ponds or fish. We have come to a point that we believe a moderated group is likely to be the only way to achieve a usenet rp group and to keep it free of the conflictual messages. We support the effort to have a moderated group. As do most of us. There's no choice left when a group has resident posters "on a mission." I personally would like to see anyone free to post on the moderated group. Content is the best basis for moderation. That doesn't always happen in the real world. What happens if posts are on-topic but the moderator disagrees (look at the fish food issue) with the poster's stand? To my great sorrow I listened to a poster here, switched to an outrageously expensive koi food and now have hundreds of undersized koi I will be stuck with in the spring. The new spring fry will need the space these undersized fish will be taking. I sorely regret switching foods but they wont want anyone to know that! I have no idea now what I'm going to do with these undersized koi come spring - that is if they survive the winter. :-( Am I not supposed to voice my opinion and share my experience? I see a problem, however, with that. It is volume. The moderators would have a lot of reviewing to do. It seems to me that some basic filtering/moderating rules would be good...like crossposted messages, certain words and, yes, suspending or banning members who persist in conflict rather than pond messages. This is a good part of the answer. Just stopping the mindless cross-posting, personal attacks and sniping at others will about cure the problem here. Pond groups simply are not intended to be places of personal non-pond conflict. They are not intended to be one of 10 groups where a personal hostility is being launched. Effective moderation would help members prone to conflictual messages to exercise self-control. And get rid of 100% of the cross-posted trash and assorted trolls, on a "mission" or not. :-) And no one has to hide for awhile then try and sneak back with another persona in hopes the trolls wont recognize them - a poor idea from the start. We began enjoying rec.ponds in 2002. It helped us with our pond. It built a wonderful friendship network for us. We would love to see conflict go away and the group one again about ponds. That does not seem likely in the forseeable future if conflict is not somehow abated. Moderating seems to be the best bet. It's the ONLY bet at this point. For what they are worth, those are our thoughts. They are launched in a spirit of friendship and intended to be without rancor. Jim I also expressed my thoughts in the spirit of friendship,without rancor and a 10 year history here. |
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