Settling chamber plans
On Fri, 02 May 2003 13:40:58 -0500, Michael Shaffer wrote:
Hey, will this work? I plan on using a plastic drum (like they sell chemicals in) for the chamber. http://members.cox.net/michaelshaffer/chamber.jpg -Mike Your pump will likely outrun your siphon. Are the water levels all the same or near it? The siphon will try to equalize the water levels, but will probably not keep up with the pump flow unless you have /big/ piping. Cybe R. Wizard -- Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P. Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P. "Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y. Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L |
Settling chamber plans
I know, but won't the solids hurt the pump if I put it in the pond?
KenCo wrote: Michael Shaffer wrote: Hey, will this work? I plan on using a plastic drum (like they sell chemicals in) for the chamber. http://members.cox.net/michaelshaffer/chamber.jpg -Mike the VF will/can use the solids. starting the flow and/or keeping it will be hard. the pipe into barrel must be short so solids can actually settle and put a 90o elbow on the pipe end to discharge sideways. -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced. |
Settling chamber plans
Here's a picture of it so far, but that's only a 30 gallon can, I'm
going to use a 55 gallon one. Plus I haven't bought the right pipes yet, those are all 3" ones I had already. Cybe R. Wizard wrote: On Fri, 02 May 2003 13:40:58 -0500, Michael Shaffer wrote: Hey, will this work? I plan on using a plastic drum (like they sell chemicals in) for the chamber. http://members.cox.net/michaelshaffer/chamber.jpg -Mike Your pump will likely outrun your siphon. Are the water levels all the same or near it? The siphon will try to equalize the water levels, but will probably not keep up with the pump flow unless you have /big/ piping. Cybe R. Wizard |
Settling chamber plans
Michael Shaffer wrote:
BTW, does anybody know where I can get one of those drums (think they're like 55 gallon) http://www.chemtainer.com All kinds of big ones. |
Settling chamber plans
Michael Shaffer wrote:
I guess I should add that I have a lot of trees above my pond which is why I was making a settling chamber. I wanted to make a bottom drain but I thought this would be easier. If I made a bottom drain would that work better? As some one who built a pond, under trees, and is about to drain, and try and install a bottom drain now, I'll just emphatically add YES! |
Settling chamber plans
On Fri, 2 May 2003, Michael Shaffer wrote: (Top-posting to his own posts)
actually now that I think about it I guess I should put the pipe as far into the pond as possible to get the biggest suction force. Two things, not particularly compatible he 1) You do want to put the supply pipes as deep into the pond as you can, so as to pick up the debris that sinks. 2) You want to minimize the length and number of angled fittings in the supply pipe, to maximize flow. Also, with the trees, a surface skimmer is a real good idea. You might think about combining these: Put a fairly high output pump, or at least one that can prodcue a good flow at high pressure, in the "clean" side of a skimmer box. Direct its output as a jet, to pick up bottom debris in a venturi, and flow that with a larger volume of slower water, up and into the settling tank. As previously mentioned, have the inlet pipe to the settling tank exit to the side, giving a swirling effect to the water; this will greatly help collecting the debris and letting it settle out. With the setling tank buried the way you have it, there is a minimum of static head, and you should be able to get pretty good scavenging off the bottom of the pond. Dave |
Settling chamber plans
Screw it.. just gonna put the pump in the pond and use a net to clean
out the leaves. Michael Shaffer wrote: Hey, will this work? I plan on using a plastic drum (like they sell chemicals in) for the chamber. http://members.cox.net/michaelshaffer/chamber.jpg -Mike |
Settling chamber plans
"Michael Shaffer" wrote in message
... Hey, will this work? I plan on using a plastic drum (like they sell chemicals in) for the chamber. http://members.cox.net/michaelshaffer/chamber.jpg -Mike I didn't see in your plans a convent way to clean the muck out of the bottom. Reaching down 3-4ft with a small bucket to scoop out the muck is not fun, that means stick your head into the barrel as well. I personally prefer to have the barrel above ground, and a bulkhead placed near the bottom with a garden hose faucet attached to it. Makes it really easy to use the 10% water changes to water the garden as well. Sameer |
Settling chamber plans
I guess I should add that I have a lot of trees above my pond which is
why I was making a settling chamber. I wanted to make a bottom drain but I thought this would be easier. If I made a bottom drain would that work better? Michael Shaffer wrote: I know, but won't the solids hurt the pump if I put it in the pond? KenCo wrote: Michael Shaffer wrote: Hey, will this work? I plan on using a plastic drum (like they sell chemicals in) for the chamber. http://members.cox.net/michaelshaffer/chamber.jpg -Mike the VF will/can use the solids. starting the flow and/or keeping it will be hard. the pipe into barrel must be short so solids can actually settle and put a 90o elbow on the pipe end to discharge sideways. -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced. |
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