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I am an idiot.
Had all these tadpoles in a kiddie pool. Gave them cheerios last night and enjoyed watching them on their merry-go-rounds, but today i reason that birds like cheerios too, and hey, if there are fish attached to those cheerios, i bet they like them even better. I dont know how many are left but something wiped out over a thousand. Now, after the fact, there are house screens on top of the pool to save whatever is left. Let this be a lesson to some other new toad/pond person! |
Dont forget the net or screen!
That's sad.
Wiped them out by eating or have they died...ammonia spike? Jim -- ______________________________________________ See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per child) at: jogathon.net ______________________________________________ "jammer" j@mmer wrote in message ... I am an idiot. Had all these tadpoles in a kiddie pool. Gave them cheerios last night and enjoyed watching them on their merry-go-rounds, but today i reason that birds like cheerios too, and hey, if there are fish attached to those cheerios, i bet they like them even better. I dont know how many are left but something wiped out over a thousand. Now, after the fact, there are house screens on top of the pool to save whatever is left. Let this be a lesson to some other new toad/pond person! |
Dont forget the net or screen!
On Mon, 12 May 2003 00:16:53 -0500, "Phyllis and Jim Hurley"
wrote: That's sad. Wiped them out by eating or have they died...ammonia spike? Jim Most are out of the pool, gone. Some WERE found dead and I did a partial water change. Just about 10-20% i guess. Anything else i can do for them regarding water quality? I started fretting over it and then thought in nature they have crap for water sometimes, but then they aren't in plastic maybe, either. There are many in the pond still , along with my 2 almost 4 inch beauty goldfish, and too many baby ones found lately. (Found a dead baby GF in the tadpole pool too) I figure when the tadpoles turn to toads and hop out of the pond, i will clean the pond. IF the water doesn't turn to crap before that. Any advice to help everyone live? I have no filter or pump or test kit (or knowledge of such thing) and a 70? gallon pondlet. I believe i have sufficient vegetation in the pond due to lack of pond scum, excess algea and relatively clear water. The kiddie pool on the other hand has maybe 15-18 gallons of water, and only about 3 bunches of anacharis and a potted iris for plant matter. ??????? juls/zone 7 |
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15 gallons isn't very many. If there were a lot of tadpoles, you could
easily have a water problem. That, however, would not explain the missing tadpoles! I would think 50 to 100 wold max out that much water, especially if there is no filter or established nitrogen cycle bacteria. ood luck next time. J -- ______________________________________________ See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per child) at: jogathon.net ______________________________________________ "jammer" j@mmer wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 May 2003 00:16:53 -0500, "Phyllis and Jim Hurley" wrote: That's sad. Wiped them out by eating or have they died...ammonia spike? Jim Most are out of the pool, gone. Some WERE found dead and I did a partial water change. Just about 10-20% i guess. Anything else i can do for them regarding water quality? I started fretting over it and then thought in nature they have crap for water sometimes, but then they aren't in plastic maybe, either. There are many in the pond still , along with my 2 almost 4 inch beauty goldfish, and too many baby ones found lately. (Found a dead baby GF in the tadpole pool too) I figure when the tadpoles turn to toads and hop out of the pond, i will clean the pond. IF the water doesn't turn to crap before that. Any advice to help everyone live? I have no filter or pump or test kit (or knowledge of such thing) and a 70? gallon pondlet. I believe i have sufficient vegetation in the pond due to lack of pond scum, excess algea and relatively clear water. The kiddie pool on the other hand has maybe 15-18 gallons of water, and only about 3 bunches of anacharis and a potted iris for plant matter. ??????? juls/zone 7 |
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May I respectfully repeat: Toadpoles last about 2 or 3 weeks, then disappear
POOF! When mine leave the pond, they still have their little tails! Nothing eats them, they just go to continue their development somewhere else, and I'll be dashed if I know where! Maybe nothing got your tads: maybe it was just time to go???? BTW, I tossed a piece of watermelon in the pond yesterday: the fish *ignored* it, but the taddies were crawling ALL over it, and even burrowed holes IN it! Lee "jammer" j@mmer wrote in message ... I am an idiot. Had all these tadpoles in a kiddie pool. Gave them cheerios last night and enjoyed watching them on their merry-go-rounds, but today i reason that birds like cheerios too, and hey, if there are fish attached to those cheerios, i bet they like them even better. I dont know how many are left but something wiped out over a thousand. Now, after the fact, there are house screens on top of the pool to save whatever is left. Let this be a lesson to some other new toad/pond person! |
Dont forget the net or screen!
Hi Lee,
Our taddies get placed over a long period. They keep on thriving and the ground around the pond has lots of toadlets on it. I suspect a good number get mowed when we do the lawn wach week! Bummer. Still, there are loads of them in the garden and in the plantings around the house and in the woods accross the road.. They are also in the shrubs at a distance. Jim guesses we do 10,000 a year. Maybe it is good they don't all make it. We also have loads of frogs. Jim reports they thrive best in the veggie filters, no big fish. P -- ______________________________________________ See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per child) at: jogathon.net ______________________________________________ "Lee Brouillet" wrote in message ... May I respectfully repeat: Toadpoles last about 2 or 3 weeks, then disappear POOF! When mine leave the pond, they still have their little tails! Nothing eats them, they just go to continue their development somewhere else, and I'll be dashed if I know where! Maybe nothing got your tads: maybe it was just time to go???? BTW, I tossed a piece of watermelon in the pond yesterday: the fish *ignored* it, but the taddies were crawling ALL over it, and even burrowed holes IN it! Lee "jammer" j@mmer wrote in message ... I am an idiot. Had all these tadpoles in a kiddie pool. Gave them cheerios last night and enjoyed watching them on their merry-go-rounds, but today i reason that birds like cheerios too, and hey, if there are fish attached to those cheerios, i bet they like them even better. I dont know how many are left but something wiped out over a thousand. Now, after the fact, there are house screens on top of the pool to save whatever is left. Let this be a lesson to some other new toad/pond person! |
Dont forget the net or screen!
And I got home last night and it was the POOF! day: they were all gone. Nary
a one left in the pond! It's only been about 3 weeks or so. Very strange how they do that! Lee "Phyllis and Jim Hurley" wrote in message .. . Hi Lee, Our taddies get placed over a long period. They keep on thriving and the ground around the pond has lots of toadlets on it. I suspect a good number get mowed when we do the lawn wach week! Bummer. Still, there are loads of them in the garden and in the plantings around the house and in the woods accross the road.. They are also in the shrubs at a distance. Jim guesses we do 10,000 a year. Maybe it is good they don't all make it. We also have loads of frogs. Jim reports they thrive best in the veggie filters, no big fish. P -- ______________________________________________ See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per child) at: jogathon.net ______________________________________________ "Lee Brouillet" wrote in message ... May I respectfully repeat: Toadpoles last about 2 or 3 weeks, then disappear POOF! When mine leave the pond, they still have their little tails! Nothing eats them, they just go to continue their development somewhere else, and I'll be dashed if I know where! Maybe nothing got your tads: maybe it was just time to go???? BTW, I tossed a piece of watermelon in the pond yesterday: the fish *ignored* it, but the taddies were crawling ALL over it, and even burrowed holes IN it! Lee "jammer" j@mmer wrote in message ... I am an idiot. Had all these tadpoles in a kiddie pool. Gave them cheerios last night and enjoyed watching them on their merry-go-rounds, but today i reason that birds like cheerios too, and hey, if there are fish attached to those cheerios, i bet they like them even better. I dont know how many are left but something wiped out over a thousand. Now, after the fact, there are house screens on top of the pool to save whatever is left. Let this be a lesson to some other new toad/pond person! |
Dont forget the net or screen!
On 13 May 2003 10:35:43 -0500, "Lee Brouillet"
wrote: And I got home last night and it was the POOF! day: they were all gone. Nary a one left in the pond! It's only been about 3 weeks or so. Very strange how they do that! Lee I was really hoping they would hang out sometimes... I still have about 50 in the pond...tadpoles. |
Dont forget the net or screen!
Actually this might be good advice for frog tadpoles in a small pond. I had
a pond club member stop by and get some taddies from me because she has a tadpole eating robin in the yard. She will be screening it after mine are put in. Here I was ticked because the robins were digging up my ground cover and now I have to worry about them being taddy eating birds?!!! I'm seriously thinking of another scarecrow for the lily pond. On the highest sensitivity they will go off on a robin. ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
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On Sat, 17 May 2003 14:52:43 -0700, ~ jan
wrote: Actually this might be good advice for frog tadpoles in a small pond. I had a pond club member stop by and get some taddies from me because she has a tadpole eating robin in the yard. She will be screening it after mine are put in. Here I was ticked because the robins were digging up my ground cover and now I have to worry about them being taddy eating birds?!!! I'm seriously thinking of another scarecrow for the lily pond. On the highest sensitivity they will go off on a robin. ~ jan Uh, I better not find any tad eating robins here! Oh man....If i lost the rest of the babies I will be crushed. |
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I am really enjoying the tadpoles in the pond. They are cute as heck.
I am going to miss them when they leave but will look forward to future years. I can't see if they have any front legs, they are so black. But they like being out in the open. At times they pool together 0-1/4 inch under the water on bricks I have in there for the toads. I pushed some azolla over the top of the bricks to conceal them so they chose lilly pads. My concern is that they are getting bigger and like the surface. I am going to screen one end where the bricks are by day and remove it for the toads by night. I wonder if i shouldn't go do that now instead of wait for tomorrow and not have any babies left? Uh, yes, but it will freak out the toads when they try to get out on that end...I wish the babies liked it somewhere else. The middle would be easy to protect....Just the same, here i go. |
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