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"Bog" filtration?
Hi.
While digging this new turtle pond I've been working on, there was a very small portion of ground where the two yard fences met, and being on the digging spree I was, I hollowed it out about 10" deep, 18" wide, 8" tall. If it EVER stops raining here I'm going to go out and put the finishing touches on the digging and once again and FINALLY lay the liner, and that will go into this little "hole" I dug, too. While I was digging it in the back of my mind I was thinking some kind of bog filter, or place for the clean water to enter and flow over the ledge back into the main turtle pond, or SOMETHING. So what exactly is the criteria for a big filtration area? Do I now put tiny pebbles in the lined hole and plant bog plants and let the water slowly go into this area? What makes a bog filtration area a filtering place? The media in it? The rate that the water enters it and leaves it? Trying to make it work in my mind so I can then make it work in reality. TIA. Sue |
"Bog" filtration?
Someone wrote this up, can't remember who, probably a group effort but here is
an explanation of a veggie filter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Construct a veggie filter - an area, 10% to 20%, of the size of your pond surface area. A couple of inches deeper than the plant baskets (the rigid black mesh baskets made specifically for water plants) you are going to use to plant in. Plant the baskets with marginal plants with fine gravel. Pump the pond water through at a turnover rate per hour 1/2 to 1/4 of the pond volume. Veggie filter uses up many of the nutrients and provides a good place for bacteria to grow. Build it with a bottom drain (or two) for ease of cleaning - very important, this helps with backups and leaking over the edge. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ k30a |
"Bog" filtration?
So basically when I read about bog filters and veggie filters, they are one
in the same? Sue "K30a" wrote in message ... Someone wrote this up, can't remember who, probably a group effort but here is an explanation of a veggie filter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Construct a veggie filter - an area, 10% to 20%, of the size of your pond surface area. A couple of inches deeper than the plant baskets (the rigid black mesh baskets made specifically for water plants) you are going to use to plant in. Plant the baskets with marginal plants with fine gravel. Pump the pond water through at a turnover rate per hour 1/2 to 1/4 of the pond volume. Veggie filter uses up many of the nutrients and provides a good place for bacteria to grow. Build it with a bottom drain (or two) for ease of cleaning - very important, this helps with backups and leaking over the edge. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ k30a |
"Bog" filtration?
Sue wrote
So basically when I read about bog filters and veggie filters, they are one in the same? For ponders we are talking about the same thing. A true bog exists without any water running through it and is home to acid loving plants. So we probably shouldn't use the term 'bog filter'. Veggie filter is running water through the plant's roots and planting media. The plants take up the nutrients and the media is a place for benefical bacteria to hang out. It can be as simple as floating water hyacinths in a stock tank filter, which is what I do. k30a |
"Bog" filtration?
my veggie filter has no planting medium with water running thru it. either the
plants are in containers in dirt and just the bottom touches the surface or the roots are right down into the water. Ingrid Veggie filter is running water through the plant's roots and planting media. The plants take up the nutrients and the media is a place for benefical bacteria to hang out. It can be as simple as floating water hyacinths in a stock tank filter, which is what I do. |
"Bog" filtration?
One thing about my hyacinth filter --- when they are small they can block the filter outlet and do a 50% water change. ak! I'll have to rig up something until they get bigger. You still have to watch them but last year had no problems with blocking. k30a |
"Bog" filtration?
I have added two new plants to my veggie filter: a tomato
plant and a few hostas. Someone mentioned them and I thought I'd give them a try. -- Bonnie NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/ |
"Bog" filtration?
Could we on rec.ponds try to fix the terms bog & veggie? Note how K30a
defined them, those of us who use plants in a separate filtering pond have VEGGIE filters, not BOG filters. Could we do this? Please? ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
"Bog" filtration?
~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:
Could we on rec.ponds try to fix the terms bog & veggie? Note how K30a defined them, those of us who use plants in a separate filtering pond have VEGGIE filters, not BOG filters. Could we do this? Please? ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website Okay. I have a veggie filter for my pond and a seperate bog not connected in any way. -- Bonnie NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/ |
"Bog" filtration?
Xref: kermit rec.ponds:111390
And I have a frog bog. Home to happy froggy tadpoles. No running water into or out of it. Occasionally it becomes flooded with rain or sprinkler water. k30a |
"Bog" filtration?
LOL!! I guess the term .. VEGGIE filter ... isn't actually correct as
very few of us grow Vegetable Filters ... rather, we grow Plant Filters. Maybe PLANT filter would be closer to the mark? Or is this splitting hairs too closely? LOL Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "K30a" wrote in message ... And I have a frog bog. Home to happy froggy tadpoles. No running water into or out of it. Occasionally it becomes flooded with rain or sprinkler water. k30a |
"Bog" filtration?
Nedra wrote Maybe PLANT filter would be closer to the mark?
Or is this splitting hairs too closely? LOL Hmmmmm. Good question. Well, Bonnie is putting a tomato plant inside her veggie filter........ *but* is a tomato a vegetable or is it a fruit....? And if it is a fruit, does Bonnie have a fruit filter? ;-) k30a |
"Bog" filtration?
Nedra wrote:
LOL!! I guess the term .. VEGGIE filter ... isn't actually correct as very few of us grow Vegetable Filters ... rather, we grow Plant Filters. Maybe PLANT filter would be closer to the mark? Or is this splitting hairs too closely? LOL Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 But I'm growing tomatoes and water celery and watercress in mine. Does that qualify it? -- Bonnie NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/ |
"Bog" filtration?
and while we're at it . . . is it tomato or tomatoe? Sue "K30a" wrote in message ... Nedra wrote Maybe PLANT filter would be closer to the mark? Or is this splitting hairs too closely? LOL Hmmmmm. Good question. Well, Bonnie is putting a tomato plant inside her veggie filter........ *but* is a tomato a vegetable or is it a fruit....? And if it is a fruit, does Bonnie have a fruit filter? ;-) k30a |
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