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Lauralai 26-05-2003 01:58 PM

question on west nile
 
hi
I work in a pet store and people are coming in and buying feeder goldfish
for there ponds thinking that they will help with mosiqtoe larvae. I don't
know if they would help all that much but was wondering if anyone here could
tell me if they would help or not. I mean the fish wouldn't really move the
surface water much. if they don't help I would like to be able to have an
explanation as to why. tons of people are coming in and wanting tons of
fish for there ponds when they don't know what they are getting into. I
mean some wanted 50 for a fairly small pond, these people have not even put
water conditioner in the water and some don't buy food for them. I am not
allowed to say no to selling fish to them unfortunately :( but right now I'm
suggesting getting a few to start the pond off, like 3 -6.
thanks



Bonnie Espenshade 26-05-2003 02:20 PM

question on west nile
 
Lauralai wrote:
hi
I work in a pet store and people are coming in and buying feeder goldfish
for there ponds thinking that they will help with mosiqtoe larvae. I don't
know if they would help all that much but was wondering if anyone here could
tell me if they would help or not. I mean the fish wouldn't really move the
surface water much. if they don't help I would like to be able to have an
explanation as to why. tons of people are coming in and wanting tons of
fish for there ponds when they don't know what they are getting into. I
mean some wanted 50 for a fairly small pond, these people have not even put
water conditioner in the water and some don't buy food for them. I am not
allowed to say no to selling fish to them unfortunately :( but right now I'm
suggesting getting a few to start the pond off, like 3 -6.
thanks



The reason people are buying the goldfish is not so they
move the water's surface. The goldfish eat the mosquito
larvae.
--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/



K30a 26-05-2003 04:44 PM

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Suggest to the goldfish buyers to buy one fish per 20 gallons.
If you want to go further advise them to have plenty of plants to filter the
goldfish waste. In a large enough pond they do not need to feed the fish.
And then if you want to get totally fish pro-active, like we do around here,
ask they if they have a fountain and/or filter?

good luck!
k30a

[email protected] 26-05-2003 05:08 PM

question on west nile
 
encourage them to get only 1 GF per 20 gallons. dont you guys sell mosquito dunks?
the profit on those would be a lot higher than feeder GF!!! Ingrid



John Hines 26-05-2003 05:21 PM

question on west nile
 
Bonnie Espenshade wrote:


The reason people are buying the goldfish is not so they
move the water's surface. The goldfish eat the mosquito
larvae.


They will also eat the bugs, as they come in for a landing on
the water to lay. Come dusk, there is a slurp, slurp sound at
the pond as they get picked off.


Snooze 26-05-2003 07:44 PM

question on west nile
 
Suggest to your management that they purchase mosquito dunks, they are
really effective at mosquito control. You put 1 dunk in a pond, and it lasts
a month or so. Point out to your management chain that both can be sold at
the same time to the same customer.

The GF will eat the mosquitoes that land on the water, and the mosquito
dunks will kill off any larva. As others already suggested, sell no more
then 1 gf per 20 gal of water. While they are there, you can also sell to
them aquatic plants such as water hyacinth, watercress, water lilies, etc.

Management loves the idea of upgrade or complementary selling of products.
Even the Harvard Business School types, say "blink blink".

Sameer


"Lauralai" wrote in message
...
hi
I work in a pet store and people are coming in and buying feeder goldfish
for there ponds thinking that they will help with mosiqtoe larvae. I

don't
know if they would help all that much but was wondering if anyone here

could
tell me if they would help or not. I mean the fish wouldn't really move

the
surface water much. if they don't help I would like to be able to have an
explanation as to why. tons of people are coming in and wanting tons of
fish for there ponds when they don't know what they are getting into. I
mean some wanted 50 for a fairly small pond, these people have not even

put
water conditioner in the water and some don't buy food for them. I am not
allowed to say no to selling fish to them unfortunately :( but right now

I'm
suggesting getting a few to start the pond off, like 3 -6.
thanks






Ian 26-05-2003 07:58 PM

question on west nile
 
Anyone in the Greater Toronto Area know who sells Mosquito dunks? So far my
searches have been in vain...



"Snooze" wrote in message
thlink.net...
Suggest to your management that they purchase mosquito dunks, they are
really effective at mosquito control. You put 1 dunk in a pond, and it

lasts
a month or so. Point out to your management chain that both can be sold at
the same time to the same customer.

The GF will eat the mosquitoes that land on the water, and the mosquito
dunks will kill off any larva. As others already suggested, sell no more
then 1 gf per 20 gal of water. While they are there, you can also sell to
them aquatic plants such as water hyacinth, watercress, water lilies, etc.

Management loves the idea of upgrade or complementary selling of products.
Even the Harvard Business School types, say "blink blink".

Sameer



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K30a 26-05-2003 08:20 PM

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With West Nile in the news soon they should
be sold everywhere.

I use Mosquito Bits, same company, in my bog and six container 'ponds'. Every
two weeks for this product.

I found it on the web and ordered it from there.
Hopefully you can find a web source in Canada.




k30a

Just Me \Koi\ 26-05-2003 09:20 PM

question on west nile
 
Ingrid and Joann, and others. What would you say about the concept of using
a natural predator (goldfish & gambusa) against mosquito versus chemicals
(dunks)?
I would have expected this group to support the use of GF and like instead
of chemicals.

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

wrote in message
...
encourage them to get only 1 GF per 20 gallons. dont you guys sell

mosquito dunks?
the profit on those would be a lot higher than feeder GF!!! Ingrid





Gail Futoran 26-05-2003 10:44 PM

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"Ian" wrote in message
ble.rogers
..com...
Anyone in the Greater Toronto Area know who sells Mosquito

dunks? So far my
searches have been in vain...


Do you have Home Depot or Lowes or
some store like those? Our HD & Lowes
carry the mosquito dunks (look like small
flat donuts) as well as local nurseries. Prices
range widely, from in excess of US$13 for
12, to as low as US$7 for 12 in a package.

Have you checked online? You might be
able to order them.

Gail
San Antonio TX



Gail Futoran 26-05-2003 10:44 PM

question on west nile
 
"Lauralai" wrote in message
...
hi
I work in a pet store and people are coming in and buying

feeder goldfish
for there ponds thinking that they will help with mosiqtoe

larvae. I don't
know if they would help all that much but was wondering if

anyone here could
tell me if they would help or not. I mean the fish

wouldn't really move the
surface water much. if they don't help I would like to be

able to have an
explanation as to why. tons of people are coming in and

wanting tons of
fish for there ponds when they don't know what they are

getting into. I
mean some wanted 50 for a fairly small pond, these people

have not even put
water conditioner in the water and some don't buy food for

them. I am not
allowed to say no to selling fish to them unfortunately

:( but right now I'm
suggesting getting a few to start the pond off, like 3 -6.
thanks


You got a bunch of good answers, and I'm
not adding to that. I'd like to say thank you
for coming here to ask questions and learn
more so you can give your customers good
advice. Your boss should give you a raise
for your initiative and interest! :)

Gail
San Antonio TX



[email protected] 26-05-2003 11:08 PM

question on west nile
 
it isnt chemical, it is biological. Bt israeli is a bacteria specifically for
mosquitoes, altho it knocks off midges as well. nothing else. Ingrid

"Just Me \"Koi\"" wrote:

Ingrid and Joann, and others. What would you say about the concept of using
a natural predator (goldfish & gambusa) against mosquito versus chemicals
(dunks)?
I would have expected this group to support the use of GF and like instead
of chemicals.



~ Windsong~ 27-05-2003 07:44 AM

question on west nile
 
One fine day: Lauralai at picked up the
keyboard and pecked out:
:: hi
:: I work in a pet store and people are coming in and buying feeder
:: goldfish for there ponds thinking that they will help with mosiqtoe
:: larvae.
=========================
The fish wont get all the larvae. They're better off using Mosquito-Dunks.
With MDs there should be a 100% larvae kill and it's harmless to other water
critters such as frogs and birds looking for water. Or they can use some
kind of airstone and pump to keep the water moving and surface disturbed.
--
Carol.......
"Beat the 5 o'clock rush - leave work at noon."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~{@




joe 27-05-2003 04:20 PM

question on west nile
 
Just Me "Koi" wrote:

Ingrid and Joann, and others. What would you say about the concept of using
a natural predator (goldfish & gambusa) against mosquito versus chemicals
(dunks)?
I would have expected this group to support the use of GF and like instead
of chemicals.


I though the dunks were just BT, not chemicals. Isn't that right?


Joe



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Steve Watson 27-05-2003 04:32 PM

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wrote in message ...
it isnt chemical, it is biological. Bt israeli is a bacteria specifically for
mosquitoes, altho it knocks off midges as well. nothing else. Ingrid


What about dragon fly larvae? I wouldn't mind using Bti if necessary
(it's certainly a lot better than the IMO irresponsible idea of
fogging whole neighbourhoods with Malathion), but I would prefer not
to kill off the predatory insects as well (adult DF are a major
predator of mosquitoes). I didn't know that Bt strains could be
targeted by species.

Tangent: In the clueless-hysteria dept, some town council out west has
put a bounty on crows, as they are West Nile carriers. In fact, most
bird species are WN carriers; dead crows just seem to get used for
testing a lot (maybe the corpses get found more often because of their
size?). Wiping out crows would have negligible effect on WN
prevalence. Reinforces my prejudice that yer average municipal
council has less than one brain between them. Apologies to any
rec.ponders who may have served on council ;-).

-- Steve

"Just Me \"Koi\"" wrote:

Ingrid and Joann, and others. What would you say about the concept of using
a natural predator (goldfish & gambusa) against mosquito versus chemicals
(dunks)?
I would have expected this group to support the use of GF and like instead
of chemicals.



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