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onlyme 03-06-2003 04:44 PM

Pond fish
 
This may seem a stupid question to you all but.....

Is it possible to keep other types of freshwater fish (angel fish etc.) in a
pond?

I have currently got six comets in a 1000gal pond and am about to add a
couple of koi.

Presumably there must be a reason as I haven't heard of anyone keeping these
sorts of fish in ponds - just curious really.

TIA



Paul Irwin 03-06-2003 05:20 PM

Pond fish
 
Water temperature is probably the biggest concern. In south central Indiana
I can keep tropical fish in my ponds from about mid-June to early September.
I have had the best results with Lake Malawi cichlids.

"onlyme" wrote in message
...
This may seem a stupid question to you all but.....

Is it possible to keep other types of freshwater fish (angel fish etc.) in

a
pond?

I have currently got six comets in a 1000gal pond and am about to add a
couple of koi.

Presumably there must be a reason as I haven't heard of anyone keeping

these
sorts of fish in ponds - just curious really.

TIA





Bonnie Espenshade 03-06-2003 06:32 PM

Pond fish
 
onlyme wrote:
This may seem a stupid question to you all but.....

Is it possible to keep other types of freshwater fish (angel fish etc.) in a
pond?

I have currently got six comets in a 1000gal pond and am about to add a
couple of koi.

Presumably there must be a reason as I haven't heard of anyone keeping these
sorts of fish in ponds - just curious really.

TIA



Goldfish and koi are cold water fish. Angelfish are
tropical and our ponds aren't warm enough for them. Plus
angelfish wouldn't be very visible from above - koi and some
goldfish were bred to be seen from above.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/



claude rogers 03-06-2003 09:44 PM

Pond fish
 
There are other cold water fish you can keep instead of goldfish and koi,
but it is not recommended to mix them. Catfish, bluegill, bass, regular
type pond fish or game fish I believe they are called, unfortunately they
don't show up very well in a green "algae"or black bottom pond and they tend
to eat goldies as they get bigger, not always, some people even on here keep
catfish in their ponds with their koi and goldies. I was very tempted to
get a small catfish until I was warned that I would end up with no goldies
left and a very big and full catfish.



Tom L. La Bron 03-06-2003 11:32 PM

Pond fish
 
Goldfish, KOI, catfish, bass, etc are not
coldwater fish; they are designated as warmwater
fish. Just because they can survive under ice
doesn't make them coldwater fish. Examples of
coldwater fish are certain varieties of trout,
salmon, etc. These fish live, frolic and breed in
water temperatures from 40-60 degrees. In fact
sixty degree water is warm to them.

The designation for fish is coldwater, warmwater
and tropical water. Goldfish and KOI could
possibly be designated as coolwater fish, but this
is not really designation.

Tom L.L.
===========================
"claude rogers" wrote in message
...
There are other cold water fish you can keep

instead of goldfish and koi,
but it is not recommended to mix them. Catfish,

bluegill, bass, regular
type pond fish or game fish I believe they are

called, unfortunately they
don't show up very well in a green "algae"or

black bottom pond and they tend
to eat goldies as they get bigger, not always,

some people even on here keep
catfish in their ponds with their koi and

goldies. I was very tempted to
get a small catfish until I was warned that I

would end up with no goldies
left and a very big and full catfish.





Kym & Tim 04-06-2003 02:08 PM

Pond fish
 
I have a mix of "gold type fish" to include others i.e. guppies and a white
catfish. only thing is when it gets cold the others have to come in, only
the koi/gold fish/comets are able to withstand the cold if your pond is deep
enough.

Kym

"onlyme" wrote in message
...
This may seem a stupid question to you all but.....

Is it possible to keep other types of freshwater fish (angel fish etc.) in

a
pond?

I have currently got six comets in a 1000gal pond and am about to add a
couple of koi.

Presumably there must be a reason as I haven't heard of anyone keeping

these
sorts of fish in ponds - just curious really.

TIA





John Hines 04-06-2003 03:44 PM

Pond fish
 
"Tom L. La Bron" wrote:

Goldfish, KOI, catfish, bass, etc are not
coldwater fish; they are designated as warmwater
fish. Just because they can survive under ice
doesn't make them coldwater fish. Examples of
coldwater fish are certain varieties of trout,
salmon, etc. These fish live, frolic and breed in
water temperatures from 40-60 degrees. In fact
sixty degree water is warm to them.


There must be a proper scientific term for a cold hardy fish, which
describes pond fish, as well as fish from temperate climates.

[email protected] 04-06-2003 10:20 PM

Pond fish
 
poikilothermic.

John Hines wrote:
There must be a proper scientific term for a cold hardy fish, which
describes pond fish, as well as fish from temperate climates.



Bonnie Espenshade 04-06-2003 10:32 PM

Pond fish
 
wrote:
poikilothermic.

John Hines wrote:

There must be a proper scientific term for a cold hardy fish, which
describes pond fish, as well as fish from temperate climates.




Kinda rolls off your tongue, doesn't it ;-)

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/



joe 05-06-2003 12:44 AM

Pond fish
 
wrote:

poikilothermic


Okay smarty pants ;), what's the derivation?

Poi-Kilo-Thermic



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John Hines 05-06-2003 01:08 AM

Pond fish
 
Bonnie Espenshade wrote:

wrote:
poikilothermic.

John Hines wrote:

There must be a proper scientific term for a cold hardy fish, which
describes pond fish, as well as fish from temperate climates.




Kinda rolls off your tongue, doesn't it ;-)


Yeah. I can see why it didn't make it into common vernacular.



Hank Pagel 05-06-2003 01:56 AM

Pond fish
 
Poikilothermic. ... In general, poikilothermic animals have slower metabolisms, and therefore need
less energy, than homeothermic animals. ... Whoever named them that never saw my goldfish doing
that nasty thing in the pickerel rush. TALK ABOUT ENERGY!




Tom La Bron 05-06-2003 03:44 AM

Pond fish
 
Hank et al,

All poikilothermic means is the animal is cold blooded like all fish. As
in: "an organism (like a fish) with a variable body temperature that is
usually slightly higher than the temperature of its environment : a
cold-blooded organism." So the common vernacular is "cold-blooded."

The catch here is that some fish's metabolism allows them to function 35-60
degree water and so are coldwater fish, and some function in water that is
40-80 degree water and are warmwater fish and some fish like and function in
water that is 68 - 95 degree water and that makes them tropical water fish.
Now in the extremes of these temperatures the fish survive, but don't breed
and live normal lives, it is in the median areas that they thrive, hence the
designations: cold, warm, and tropical water fish.

Tom L.L.
--------------------------

"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
...
Poikilothermic. ... In general, poikilothermic animals have slower

metabolisms, and therefore need
less energy, than homeothermic animals. ... Whoever named them that

never saw my goldfish doing
that nasty thing in the pickerel rush. TALK ABOUT ENERGY!






Mike 08-06-2003 06:56 PM

Pond Fish
 
poikilothermic

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poikilothermic.

click on Fish link

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish

click on aquarium link

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarium


click on freshwater aquarium fish species link

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarium
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Cold-water fish

* Goldfish
* Koi
* White Cloud Mountain Minnow

Tropical fish

* Live-bearing
o Guppy
o Molly
o Platy
o Swordtail

* Egg-laying
o Cichlids
+ Angelfish
+ Discus
+ Oscar
o Tetras (Characidae)
+ Black Widow
+ Cardinal Tetra
+ Cave Tetra
+ Common Hatchetfish
+ Green Neon Tetra
+ Neon Tetra
+ Silver Dollar
o Labyrinth fish (Anabantidae)
+ Blue Gourami
+ Siamese Fighting Fish
o Barbs (Cyprinidae) and related
+ Pearl Danio
+ Tiger Barb
+ Zebra Danio
o Loaches (Cobitidae)
+ Clown Loach
+ Kuhli Loach
o Catfish (Siluriformes)
+ Armored Catfish (Callichthyidae)
# Peppered Cory (Corydoras paleatus)
+ Armored Suckermouth Catfish (Loricariidae)
# Bristlenose Catfish (Ancistrus dolichopterus)
+ Ghost Fish



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