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This may seem a stupid question to you all but.....
Is it possible to keep other types of freshwater fish (angel fish etc.) in a pond? I have currently got six comets in a 1000gal pond and am about to add a couple of koi. Presumably there must be a reason as I haven't heard of anyone keeping these sorts of fish in ponds - just curious really. TIA |
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Water temperature is probably the biggest concern. In south central Indiana
I can keep tropical fish in my ponds from about mid-June to early September. I have had the best results with Lake Malawi cichlids. "onlyme" wrote in message ... This may seem a stupid question to you all but..... Is it possible to keep other types of freshwater fish (angel fish etc.) in a pond? I have currently got six comets in a 1000gal pond and am about to add a couple of koi. Presumably there must be a reason as I haven't heard of anyone keeping these sorts of fish in ponds - just curious really. TIA |
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onlyme wrote:
This may seem a stupid question to you all but..... Is it possible to keep other types of freshwater fish (angel fish etc.) in a pond? I have currently got six comets in a 1000gal pond and am about to add a couple of koi. Presumably there must be a reason as I haven't heard of anyone keeping these sorts of fish in ponds - just curious really. TIA Goldfish and koi are cold water fish. Angelfish are tropical and our ponds aren't warm enough for them. Plus angelfish wouldn't be very visible from above - koi and some goldfish were bred to be seen from above. -- Bonnie NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/ |
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There are other cold water fish you can keep instead of goldfish and koi,
but it is not recommended to mix them. Catfish, bluegill, bass, regular type pond fish or game fish I believe they are called, unfortunately they don't show up very well in a green "algae"or black bottom pond and they tend to eat goldies as they get bigger, not always, some people even on here keep catfish in their ponds with their koi and goldies. I was very tempted to get a small catfish until I was warned that I would end up with no goldies left and a very big and full catfish. |
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Goldfish, KOI, catfish, bass, etc are not
coldwater fish; they are designated as warmwater fish. Just because they can survive under ice doesn't make them coldwater fish. Examples of coldwater fish are certain varieties of trout, salmon, etc. These fish live, frolic and breed in water temperatures from 40-60 degrees. In fact sixty degree water is warm to them. The designation for fish is coldwater, warmwater and tropical water. Goldfish and KOI could possibly be designated as coolwater fish, but this is not really designation. Tom L.L. =========================== "claude rogers" wrote in message ... There are other cold water fish you can keep instead of goldfish and koi, but it is not recommended to mix them. Catfish, bluegill, bass, regular type pond fish or game fish I believe they are called, unfortunately they don't show up very well in a green "algae"or black bottom pond and they tend to eat goldies as they get bigger, not always, some people even on here keep catfish in their ponds with their koi and goldies. I was very tempted to get a small catfish until I was warned that I would end up with no goldies left and a very big and full catfish. |
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I have a mix of "gold type fish" to include others i.e. guppies and a white
catfish. only thing is when it gets cold the others have to come in, only the koi/gold fish/comets are able to withstand the cold if your pond is deep enough. Kym "onlyme" wrote in message ... This may seem a stupid question to you all but..... Is it possible to keep other types of freshwater fish (angel fish etc.) in a pond? I have currently got six comets in a 1000gal pond and am about to add a couple of koi. Presumably there must be a reason as I haven't heard of anyone keeping these sorts of fish in ponds - just curious really. TIA |
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"Tom L. La Bron" wrote:
Goldfish, KOI, catfish, bass, etc are not coldwater fish; they are designated as warmwater fish. Just because they can survive under ice doesn't make them coldwater fish. Examples of coldwater fish are certain varieties of trout, salmon, etc. These fish live, frolic and breed in water temperatures from 40-60 degrees. In fact sixty degree water is warm to them. There must be a proper scientific term for a cold hardy fish, which describes pond fish, as well as fish from temperate climates. |
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poikilothermic.
John Hines wrote: There must be a proper scientific term for a cold hardy fish, which describes pond fish, as well as fish from temperate climates. |
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poikilothermic Okay smarty pants , what's the derivation? Poi-Kilo-Thermic -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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Bonnie Espenshade wrote:
wrote: poikilothermic. John Hines wrote: There must be a proper scientific term for a cold hardy fish, which describes pond fish, as well as fish from temperate climates. Kinda rolls off your tongue, doesn't it ;-) Yeah. I can see why it didn't make it into common vernacular. |
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Poikilothermic. ... In general, poikilothermic animals have slower metabolisms, and therefore need
less energy, than homeothermic animals. ... Whoever named them that never saw my goldfish doing that nasty thing in the pickerel rush. TALK ABOUT ENERGY! |
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Hank et al,
All poikilothermic means is the animal is cold blooded like all fish. As in: "an organism (like a fish) with a variable body temperature that is usually slightly higher than the temperature of its environment : a cold-blooded organism." So the common vernacular is "cold-blooded." The catch here is that some fish's metabolism allows them to function 35-60 degree water and so are coldwater fish, and some function in water that is 40-80 degree water and are warmwater fish and some fish like and function in water that is 68 - 95 degree water and that makes them tropical water fish. Now in the extremes of these temperatures the fish survive, but don't breed and live normal lives, it is in the median areas that they thrive, hence the designations: cold, warm, and tropical water fish. Tom L.L. -------------------------- "Hank Pagel" wrote in message ... Poikilothermic. ... In general, poikilothermic animals have slower metabolisms, and therefore need less energy, than homeothermic animals. ... Whoever named them that never saw my goldfish doing that nasty thing in the pickerel rush. TALK ABOUT ENERGY! |
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poikilothermic
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poikilothermic. click on Fish link http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish click on aquarium link http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarium click on freshwater aquarium fish species link http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarium ************************************************** ** Cold-water fish * Goldfish * Koi * White Cloud Mountain Minnow Tropical fish * Live-bearing o Guppy o Molly o Platy o Swordtail * Egg-laying o Cichlids + Angelfish + Discus + Oscar o Tetras (Characidae) + Black Widow + Cardinal Tetra + Cave Tetra + Common Hatchetfish + Green Neon Tetra + Neon Tetra + Silver Dollar o Labyrinth fish (Anabantidae) + Blue Gourami + Siamese Fighting Fish o Barbs (Cyprinidae) and related + Pearl Danio + Tiger Barb + Zebra Danio o Loaches (Cobitidae) + Clown Loach + Kuhli Loach o Catfish (Siluriformes) + Armored Catfish (Callichthyidae) # Peppered Cory (Corydoras paleatus) + Armored Suckermouth Catfish (Loricariidae) # Bristlenose Catfish (Ancistrus dolichopterus) + Ghost Fish |
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