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BenignVanilla 18-06-2003 06:32 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong opinions, but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

....quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
....quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
....quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
....not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
....not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
....not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion preferred.

--
BenignVanilla
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Remove MYFRONTALLOBE to email me.



K30a 18-06-2003 07:08 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
BV wrote ...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

me.
I think the advice on quarantining is safest, cover all contingencies, be
prepared, worst case type of stuff. There are always horror stories of a whole
pond going fins up after a new fish is introduced.

How many people test a skin product on a small patch of skin for 24 hours? Nah,
most of us slather whatever it is on and d*mn the consequences. The ones who
break out in purple and green spots are more likely to quarantine their fish.
;-)


k30a

K30a 18-06-2003 07:08 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 

Wait, wait, wait!!!
I choose the wrong door.
Make mine
...not quarantined them, and NOT lost them due to disease?

Haven't had enough coffee this morning!!

sigh...............

k30a

Bonnie Espenshade 18-06-2003 07:32 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
BenignVanilla wrote:
Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong opinions, but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

...quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion preferred.

--
BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
Remove MYFRONTALLOBE to email me.



I haven't purchased fish in five years at least. If I were
to purchase a fish now I'd definitely quarantine rather than
risk introducing illness to my pond.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/



Hank Pagel 18-06-2003 07:44 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
BV, DOOR #4- Not Quarantined and no other lost fish, but I have lost
newly purchased fish. Quarantine seems to me to be adding more stress
to the new fish. I guess it is a matter of how much risk you are
willing to take and how much you trust your supplier. So, no flames
here.
"BenignVanilla" m
wrote in message ...
Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong
opinions, but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I
have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

....quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
....quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
....quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
....not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
....not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
....not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water
is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion
preferred.

--
BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
Remove MYFRONTALLOBE to email me.





ajames54 18-06-2003 07:56 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:27:29 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
m wrote:


...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?


But I take great care before I buy them to check them, their
tankmates and the general condition of all other fish at the
vendor...

Robyn Rhudy 18-06-2003 08:32 PM

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It seems, if I quarantine, the fish are fine. If I don't, they give the
other fish something like ick. So, I just rarely buy fish and keep the
new ones separate for months!


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[email protected] 18-06-2003 09:56 PM

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...quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
.... yes, always now
...quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?

... yes, of course
...quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

.... yes, I just ran across a picture of a ginrin showa that died in the quarantine
tank. suddenly. swimming happily that night, dead in the morning. was one of most
gorgeous fish I ever had .. briefly.
...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?

... did this first few years. got away with it too, then had who tank full of fish
crash.
...not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?

.... fish with wound no room in smaller tank, put em in with other fish thought I
could handle the problem, lost a couple other fish. actually, bought a beautiful
oranda I bought at a GF show into a tank of fish. morning the fish was loaded with
ich.. I mean every square inch of the fish was covered. fish was dead. got em out
and didnt lose any of those fish in the tank. was I LUCKY.
...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

... oh yeah. I would buy 5 or 6 fish, put em in a tank and they would drop off. this
was in first few years. I quit buying fish from pet stores after this.
Ingrid



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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[email protected] 18-06-2003 10:08 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
the fish is at the supplier. how long did they quarantine the fish? then they bag
the fish up, you drag it home and it is stressed from the move. stressed fish lose
control over their parasite load, they shed the parasites into the water. they may
be immune, but the fish already in the pond may not have been in contact with that
particular parasite and their immunity has declined. so it is more likely the new
fish will survive, the existing fish get sick and/or die.
I dont quarantine new fish in a small tank. I quarantine them in a large stock tank
where I keep the water pristine. I can easily net them to treat them, I can treat
that tank and do the necessary water changes, and I can boost the temp on that tank
up to 84oF to see if any of the heat activated cooties "come out".
Jan even keeps an indicator fish in that quarantine tank, so if they shed something
deadly the indicator fish bellies up.. .not the whole pond full of fish. The other
fish also does help calm a single fish. You must not have been on this list the last
few years when people just tossed new fish into their ponds and had the entire pond
full of fish die. It is an easily avoidable horror. I am very short on sympathy for
people who dont quarantine. Ingrid

"Hank Pagel" wrote:
Quarantine seems to me to be adding more stress
to the new fish. I guess it is a matter of how much risk you are
willing to take and how much you trust your supplier.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[email protected] 18-06-2003 10:08 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
doesnt matter. you have no idea what parasites they are carrying. do you even ask
how long those fish have been in quarantine, or IF they have been in quarantine at
the store? fish are easy to quarantine. why risk it? you got room for a pond, you
got room for a 100 gallon stock tank. Ingrid

But I take great care before I buy them to check them, their
tankmates and the general condition of all other fish at the
vendor...




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

John Rutz 18-06-2003 10:32 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 


BenignVanilla wrote:
Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong opinions, but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

...quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion preferred.

--
BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
Remove MYFRONTALLOBE to email me.




--
you asked six questions so my anwer is yes x 6




John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

good judgement comes from bad experience, and that comes from bad
judgement

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com


John Hines 18-06-2003 10:56 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.


Me neither. I've never had the luxuries of a second tank w/ the same
water parameters, and filtration.

The only "problems" I've had is a few losses with a few feeders in a
dozen from the store. And at $1.50 per dozen...

Now if I had some fish that I valued, and was able to keep them for more
than a winter or two, I might feel different.

But it still stands that you need a second setup to the quarantine
correctly. I've now got a 300 gal stock tank, my goal is to use that in
the future, someday.

Just Me \Koi\ 19-06-2003 03:44 AM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
Dear Jeff,
This is my honest to goodness confession and apologies the same time.

I use to think that Ingrid was nuts for all her preaching on quarantine
(Sorry Ingrid)

So I started my pond with a few small fish, junk fish, $10 fish, etc. Loose
a fish here and there, didn't know the cause, and didn't care.

Then I started buying bigger and better fish (Cost more...). So I got some
fish, threw them in the pond without quarantine, and lost some pretty darn
expensive fish! I cried. Since then I WILL NEVER put a new fish in my
pond without a slat bath and quarantine.

That's all I know!

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"BenignVanilla" m wrote in
message ...
Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong opinions,

but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

...quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion preferred.

--
BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
Remove MYFRONTALLOBE to email me.





Sue Alexandre 19-06-2003 03:56 AM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
Got an extra suit I can borrow? I've never quarantined a new fish,
either. Maybe I'm just living on borrowed time because I've had no
problems in 3 years.....been very lucky.
Sue

"BenignVanilla" m wrote in
message ...
Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong opinions,

but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

...quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion preferred.

--
BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
Remove MYFRONTALLOBE to email me.





Just Me \Koi\ 19-06-2003 04:56 AM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
I meant Salt bath or melafix bath

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
...
Dear Jeff,
This is my honest to goodness confession and apologies the same time.

I use to think that Ingrid was nuts for all her preaching on quarantine
(Sorry Ingrid)

So I started my pond with a few small fish, junk fish, $10 fish, etc.

Loose
a fish here and there, didn't know the cause, and didn't care.

Then I started buying bigger and better fish (Cost more...). So I got

some
fish, threw them in the pond without quarantine, and lost some pretty darn
expensive fish! I cried. Since then I WILL NEVER put a new fish in my
pond without a slat bath and quarantine.

That's all I know!

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"BenignVanilla" m wrote

in
message ...
Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong opinions,

but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I

have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

...quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion

preferred.

--
BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
Remove MYFRONTALLOBE to email me.







*muffin* 19-06-2003 06:56 AM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
what percentage salt?


"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
...
I meant Salt bath or melafix bath

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
...
Dear Jeff,
This is my honest to goodness confession and apologies the same time.

I use to think that Ingrid was nuts for all her preaching on quarantine
(Sorry Ingrid)

So I started my pond with a few small fish, junk fish, $10 fish, etc.

Loose
a fish here and there, didn't know the cause, and didn't care.

Then I started buying bigger and better fish (Cost more...). So I got

some
fish, threw them in the pond without quarantine, and lost some pretty

darn
expensive fish! I cried. Since then I WILL NEVER put a new fish in my
pond without a slat bath and quarantine.

That's all I know!

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"BenignVanilla" m wrote

in
message ...
Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong

opinions,
but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I

have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

...quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water

is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion

preferred.

--
BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
Remove MYFRONTALLOBE to email me.









Theo van Daele 19-06-2003 09:56 AM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
I have been very much of the "throw them in ASAP" variety, but I am
seriously reconsidering. Nothing ugly happened yet, but I just don't want
to loose any of the fish. So I will install a quarantine tank.

Maybe it's also worth discussing how long they have to be in there... some
deseases only become manifest after 6 months or longer, so it's still a
question of "how lucky do you feel", but the risks must be much smaller. A
"control" fish seems to be a good idea as well.

Another thing I learned : be very careful with plants... they are the
ultimate breeding place for lots of critters, and it may well be that more
parasites/leeches are introduced to ponds via the way of plants than through
fish ?



ajames54 19-06-2003 02:44 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 21:08:10 GMT, wrote:

doesnt matter. you have no idea what parasites they are carrying. do you even ask
how long those fish have been in quarantine, or IF they have been in quarantine at
the store?


Yes to all of the above? And i only ever buy fish from one of
three places I've been buying fish from for 20+ years

fish are easy to quarantine. why risk it? you got room for a pond, you
got room for a 100 gallon stock tank. Ingrid


I guess I should have prefaced this with

"Kids! Don't try this at home!"

But I take great care before I buy them to check them, their
tankmates and the general condition of all other fish at the
vendor...






Just Me \Koi\ 19-06-2003 02:56 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
You are so right. I think someone posted in here how to give your plants a
mild bleach bath before putting them in your pond. I have a little 100
gallon plant quarantine tank also. No fish or living creature in here
intentionally! I submerged the plants in here after a mild bleach dip, then
add higher than normal concentration of "quick cure" to the tank. for three
weeks before I move the plant to my pond.

Keep in mind that my ponds are really established with too many fish and
plants to start, so I am not really in any rush to introduce plants or more
fish to my ponds. The only reason I add plants or fish is the same reasons
others around here like John Ruts does, we have "POND GREED" We can't seem
to leave well enough alone!

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
...
snip Another thing I learned : be very careful with plants... they are

the
ultimate breeding place for lots of critters, and it may well be that more
parasites/leeches are introduced to ponds via the way of plants than

through
fish ?





Just Me \Koi\ 19-06-2003 02:56 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
I don't salt my ponds, I only use salt for quarantine or for treatment of
sick fish, as such I use a very high concentration following the direction
on the box of pond salt! Maybe others can add in here!

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"*muffin*" wrote in message
...
what percentage salt?


"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
...
I meant Salt bath or melafix bath

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
...
Dear Jeff,
This is my honest to goodness confession and apologies the same time.

I use to think that Ingrid was nuts for all her preaching on

quarantine
(Sorry Ingrid)

So I started my pond with a few small fish, junk fish, $10 fish, etc.

Loose
a fish here and there, didn't know the cause, and didn't care.

Then I started buying bigger and better fish (Cost more...). So I got

some
fish, threw them in the pond without quarantine, and lost some pretty

darn
expensive fish! I cried. Since then I WILL NEVER put a new fish in

my
pond without a slat bath and quarantine.

That's all I know!

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"BenignVanilla" m

wrote
in
message ...
Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong

opinions,
but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I

have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

...quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water

is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion

preferred.

--
BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
Remove MYFRONTALLOBE to email me.











James Cook 19-06-2003 03:20 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
Never quarantined aquarium fish, didn't quarantine pond fish. No problems at
all but then again I only buy from the one source who produces excellent
healthy fish kept in superb conditions.



The Madd Hatter 19-06-2003 11:56 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
w/ a microscope??? Fish in a stock tank at the LFS, are usually in
shock anyway, from being recently moved in to crowded pullouted
conditions. You can't tell what diseases they are carrying.. Remember,
they don't have to be ILL to be a carrier (like West Nile
Mosquitoes)... It is more likely that the carrier will survive but the
other fish won't...

As it happens, I now quarantine fish whenever possible, since, w/ the
amount of fish I have, I've had "incidents" a few times.. However, I
very rarely buy fish from the LFS... I prefer other hobbyists, as they
tend to keep their fish alot healthier..

Its one of those live and learn things... You'll flame yourself
plenty, when you add an infected fish to a tank and loose your prized
breeding colony of Peacocks or whatever..



On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:49:39 -0400, ajames54
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:27:29 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:


...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?


But I take great care before I buy them to check them, their
tankmates and the general condition of all other fish at the
vendor...



RichToyBox 20-06-2003 12:20 AM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
For a salt dip, I use a saturated salt solution. Get as much salt to
dissolve as possible. Put the koi in and in a very short period of time, it
will roll over and then it is time to take it out and put it in fresh water.
This will remove a lot of the slime coat, that is the home for most of the
parasites, and will also kill the parasites.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"*muffin*" wrote in message
...
what percentage salt?


"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
...
I meant Salt bath or melafix bath

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
...
Dear Jeff,
This is my honest to goodness confession and apologies the same time.

I use to think that Ingrid was nuts for all her preaching on

quarantine
(Sorry Ingrid)

So I started my pond with a few small fish, junk fish, $10 fish, etc.

Loose
a fish here and there, didn't know the cause, and didn't care.

Then I started buying bigger and better fish (Cost more...). So I got

some
fish, threw them in the pond without quarantine, and lost some pretty

darn
expensive fish! I cried. Since then I WILL NEVER put a new fish in

my
pond without a slat bath and quarantine.

That's all I know!

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"BenignVanilla" m

wrote
in
message ...
Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong

opinions,
but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I

have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

...quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water

is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion

preferred.

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~ jan JJsPond.us 24-06-2003 06:08 AM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
BV, The website I will list tells you all the why for(s) to quarantine:
http://www.koivet.com/html/articles/...t%20 Articles
read it and then let me know what you think.

I quarantine, long period and use a canary fish, no problems, but I've had
the quarantine fish get sick or at least lethargic just from transport and
handling. In quarantine I can easily and cheaply raise my salt or add meds
or use medicated food without affecting all my other pond residents. ~ jan

On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:27:29 -0400, "BenignVanilla" m wrote:


Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong opinions, but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

...quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion preferred.



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Sam Hopkins 25-06-2003 09:08 PM

Quarintine? Reality?
 
I caught 3 sunfish at my local pond. I quarintined them and sure enough they
had a common parasite worm attached to all three. I gave them medicine for
two weeks and they were good as new.


"BenignVanilla" m wrote in
message ...
Ok, I know this one will grab some flames...and lots of strong opinions,

but
what I am looking for is..."I did this...and saw this..." and not "I have
heard this..."

How many people have bought fish and...

...quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing no evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, seeing evidence of disease?
...not quarantined them, and lost them due to disease?

I must admit, I have never quarantined new aquariums mates. My water is
good, and as far as I know, I have never lost a fish to disease.

OK, my asbestos suit is on. Flame away if you need. Discussion preferred.

--
BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
Remove MYFRONTALLOBE to email me.






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