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New Fish
My bro-in-law has a friend that is moving, and is adopting her fish out, I
guess because she does not trust the new owners. He brought some over for me yesterday. They were in a bucket and all were gasping. I grabbed a 33 gallon rubbermaid, and filled it with pond water, and we moved them over. They immediately relaxed. My water is well aerated, so I assume this was a big help to them. I took a few out and examined them. All seemed healthy to the eye. Scales had nice coloring, and none were missing nor damaged. All fins were intact, and undamaged. No sins of parasites, nor ich. The gill areas seemed clean and healthy. I did not peer inside the gills as I was not sure how to do this safely. The few that he gave me are now in my pond, and swimming happily. One GF is nearly the size of a football!!! I have never seen a GF so big. The others have now begun following him around the pond. The Koi looked p*ssed and are sulking in the corner. I also got some water lettuce from them. What an awesome looking plant! -- BenignVanilla Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond |
New Fish
"BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... happily. One GF is nearly the size of a football!!! I have never seen a GF so big. Amazing! Can you post a picture? The others have now begun following him around the pond. The Koi looked p*ssed and are sulking in the corner. How big are the koi? I suppose I'd be p*ssed too if a sumo wrestler moved onto the block. |
New Fish
"Bern Muller" wrote in message ... "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... happily. One GF is nearly the size of a football!!! I have never seen a GF so big. Amazing! Can you post a picture? I'll try. I am not sure if I will be home tonight, in time to take a picture. The others have now begun following him around the pond. The Koi looked p*ssed and are sulking in the corner. How big are the koi? I suppose I'd be p*ssed too if a sumo wrestler moved onto the block. They're small, maybe 4-6 inches long. They are PetSmart $4 specials. BV. |
New Fish
tsk, tsk ... no quarantine? you gotta get a 100 gallon rubbermaid and have it always
set up waiting for this kind of contingency. Ingrid "BenignVanilla" wrote: My bro-in-law has a friend that is moving, and is adopting her fish out, I guess because she does not trust the new owners. He brought some over for me yesterday. They were in a bucket and all were gasping. I grabbed a 33 gallon rubbermaid, and filled it with pond water, and we moved them over. They immediately relaxed. My water is well aerated, so I assume this was a big help to them. I took a few out and examined them. All seemed healthy to the eye. Scales had nice coloring, and none were missing nor damaged. All fins were intact, and undamaged. No sins of parasites, nor ich. The gill areas seemed clean and healthy. I did not peer inside the gills as I was not sure how to do this safely. The few that he gave me are now in my pond, and swimming happily. One GF is nearly the size of a football!!! I have never seen a GF so big. The others have now begun following him around the pond. The Koi looked p*ssed and are sulking in the corner. I also got some water lettuce from them. What an awesome looking plant! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
New Fish
wrote in message ... tsk, tsk ... no quarantine? you gotta get a 100 gallon rubbermaid and have it always set up waiting for this kind of contingency. Ingrid snip Wow! Ingrid, I was really expecting you to slap my knuckles faster then that! *Laugh* I am taking a chance. I know that, but right now I don't have the equipment/space/manpower to manage a quarantine tank. Flame away. BV. |
New Fish
First, I use a minnow seine to round them up into a smaller area that I can
handle. Then I use a large, about 24 inch diameter koi net to bring them to the surface for the sock net. If the fish is over 24 inches, it is very easy to guide it about anywhere you want. 18 to 24 inch fish are a little faster and still have some flight programming in them, and sometimes they do what you want, and sometimes they jump. 12 to 18 inch fish are faster still and have a significant amount of flight programming, and they usually jump, you just need to have the net where they jump, i.e. be a good baseball catcher. Under 12 inch, good luck. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "*muffin*" wrote in message ... wwellllllllll, not only that.......... but if you cannot catch the fish,, the quarantine tank is useless except for new fish. ok, how do yOU , who can. catch your fish???? "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... tsk, tsk ... no quarantine? you gotta get a 100 gallon rubbermaid and have it always set up waiting for this kind of contingency. Ingrid snip Wow! Ingrid, I was really expecting you to slap my knuckles faster then that! *Laugh* I am taking a chance. I know that, but right now I don't have the equipment/space/manpower to manage a quarantine tank. Flame away. BV. |
New Fish
First, I use a minnow seine to round them up into a smaller area that I can
handle. Then I use a large, about 24 inch diameter koi net to bring them to the surface for the sock net. If the fish is over 24 inches, it is very easy to guide it about anywhere you want. 18 to 24 inch fish are a little faster and still have some flight programming in them, and sometimes they do what you want, and sometimes they jump. 12 to 18 inch fish are faster still and have a significant amount of flight programming, and they usually jump, you just need to have the net where they jump, i.e. be a good baseball catcher. Under 12 inch, good luck. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "*muffin*" wrote in message ... wwellllllllll, not only that.......... but if you cannot catch the fish,, the quarantine tank is useless except for new fish. ok, how do yOU , who can. catch your fish???? "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... tsk, tsk ... no quarantine? you gotta get a 100 gallon rubbermaid and have it always set up waiting for this kind of contingency. Ingrid snip Wow! Ingrid, I was really expecting you to slap my knuckles faster then that! *Laugh* I am taking a chance. I know that, but right now I don't have the equipment/space/manpower to manage a quarantine tank. Flame away. BV. |
New Fish
Do you put a pump and filter in this 100 gal rubermaid (newbe here trying to
learn). I normally just put them in the pond after a half hour in the water bagged. Joann wrote in message ... tsk, tsk ... no quarantine? you gotta get a 100 gallon rubbermaid and have it always set up waiting for this kind of contingency. Ingrid "BenignVanilla" wrote: My bro-in-law has a friend that is moving, and is adopting her fish out, I guess because she does not trust the new owners. He brought some over for me yesterday. They were in a bucket and all were gasping. I grabbed a 33 gallon rubbermaid, and filled it with pond water, and we moved them over. They immediately relaxed. My water is well aerated, so I assume this was a big help to them. I took a few out and examined them. All seemed healthy to the eye. Scales had nice coloring, and none were missing nor damaged. All fins were intact, and undamaged. No sins of parasites, nor ich. The gill areas seemed clean and healthy. I did not peer inside the gills as I was not sure how to do this safely. The few that he gave me are now in my pond, and swimming happily. One GF is nearly the size of a football!!! I have never seen a GF so big. The others have now begun following him around the pond. The Koi looked p*ssed and are sulking in the corner. I also got some water lettuce from them. What an awesome looking plant! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
New Fish
Do you put a pump and filter in this 100 gal rubermaid (newbe here trying to
learn). I normally just put them in the pond after a half hour in the water bagged. Joann wrote in message ... tsk, tsk ... no quarantine? you gotta get a 100 gallon rubbermaid and have it always set up waiting for this kind of contingency. Ingrid "BenignVanilla" wrote: My bro-in-law has a friend that is moving, and is adopting her fish out, I guess because she does not trust the new owners. He brought some over for me yesterday. They were in a bucket and all were gasping. I grabbed a 33 gallon rubbermaid, and filled it with pond water, and we moved them over. They immediately relaxed. My water is well aerated, so I assume this was a big help to them. I took a few out and examined them. All seemed healthy to the eye. Scales had nice coloring, and none were missing nor damaged. All fins were intact, and undamaged. No sins of parasites, nor ich. The gill areas seemed clean and healthy. I did not peer inside the gills as I was not sure how to do this safely. The few that he gave me are now in my pond, and swimming happily. One GF is nearly the size of a football!!! I have never seen a GF so big. The others have now begun following him around the pond. The Koi looked p*ssed and are sulking in the corner. I also got some water lettuce from them. What an awesome looking plant! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
New Fish
It is a very good idea to have a quarantine system, and the more expensive
the fish in your pond the more important it becomes, but... More fish are killed in quarantine than are cured, because the quarantine system has poorer water than the pond. A working filter is a must to keep the ammonia and nitrites down. Too many people keep a small quarantine tank in the garage, with no water, no filter, and fire it up when they get new fish. It has to go through the cycle, if they fire up a filter, and because of the small size it becomes very toxic, very quickly. The quarantine system should have better water in it than the water in the pond. You are trying to get them over the stress of catching, bagging, transporting, etc., and they need good water for that. The quarantine system allows for treatment of fish in a small amount of water so that you are not having to buy chemicals to treat the big pond. It also does not have all the plant pots, and other obstructions that hinder catching. You can observe the fish to see that nothing is wrong much easier, also. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "FBCS" wrote in message ... Do you put a pump and filter in this 100 gal rubermaid (newbe here trying to learn). I normally just put them in the pond after a half hour in the water bagged. Joann wrote in message ... tsk, tsk ... no quarantine? you gotta get a 100 gallon rubbermaid and have it always set up waiting for this kind of contingency. Ingrid "BenignVanilla" wrote: My bro-in-law has a friend that is moving, and is adopting her fish out, I guess because she does not trust the new owners. He brought some over for me yesterday. They were in a bucket and all were gasping. I grabbed a 33 gallon rubbermaid, and filled it with pond water, and we moved them over. They immediately relaxed. My water is well aerated, so I assume this was a big help to them. I took a few out and examined them. All seemed healthy to the eye. Scales had nice coloring, and none were missing nor damaged. All fins were intact, and undamaged. No sins of parasites, nor ich. The gill areas seemed clean and healthy. I did not peer inside the gills as I was not sure how to do this safely. The few that he gave me are now in my pond, and swimming happily. One GF is nearly the size of a football!!! I have never seen a GF so big. The others have now begun following him around the pond. The Koi looked p*ssed and are sulking in the corner. I also got some water lettuce from them. What an awesome looking plant! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
New Fish
It is a very good idea to have a quarantine system, and the more expensive
the fish in your pond the more important it becomes, but... More fish are killed in quarantine than are cured, because the quarantine system has poorer water than the pond. A working filter is a must to keep the ammonia and nitrites down. Too many people keep a small quarantine tank in the garage, with no water, no filter, and fire it up when they get new fish. It has to go through the cycle, if they fire up a filter, and because of the small size it becomes very toxic, very quickly. The quarantine system should have better water in it than the water in the pond. You are trying to get them over the stress of catching, bagging, transporting, etc., and they need good water for that. The quarantine system allows for treatment of fish in a small amount of water so that you are not having to buy chemicals to treat the big pond. It also does not have all the plant pots, and other obstructions that hinder catching. You can observe the fish to see that nothing is wrong much easier, also. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "FBCS" wrote in message ... Do you put a pump and filter in this 100 gal rubermaid (newbe here trying to learn). I normally just put them in the pond after a half hour in the water bagged. Joann wrote in message ... tsk, tsk ... no quarantine? you gotta get a 100 gallon rubbermaid and have it always set up waiting for this kind of contingency. Ingrid "BenignVanilla" wrote: My bro-in-law has a friend that is moving, and is adopting her fish out, I guess because she does not trust the new owners. He brought some over for me yesterday. They were in a bucket and all were gasping. I grabbed a 33 gallon rubbermaid, and filled it with pond water, and we moved them over. They immediately relaxed. My water is well aerated, so I assume this was a big help to them. I took a few out and examined them. All seemed healthy to the eye. Scales had nice coloring, and none were missing nor damaged. All fins were intact, and undamaged. No sins of parasites, nor ich. The gill areas seemed clean and healthy. I did not peer inside the gills as I was not sure how to do this safely. The few that he gave me are now in my pond, and swimming happily. One GF is nearly the size of a football!!! I have never seen a GF so big. The others have now begun following him around the pond. The Koi looked p*ssed and are sulking in the corner. I also got some water lettuce from them. What an awesome looking plant! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
New Fish
It is a very good idea to have a quarantine system, and the more expensive
the fish in your pond the more important it becomes, but... More fish are killed in quarantine than are cured, because the quarantine system has poorer water than the pond. A working filter is a must to keep the ammonia and nitrites down. Too many people keep a small quarantine tank in the garage, with no water, no filter, and fire it up when they get new fish. It has to go through the cycle, if they fire up a filter, and because of the small size it becomes very toxic, very quickly. The quarantine system should have better water in it than the water in the pond. You are trying to get them over the stress of catching, bagging, transporting, etc., and they need good water for that. The quarantine system allows for treatment of fish in a small amount of water so that you are not having to buy chemicals to treat the big pond. It also does not have all the plant pots, and other obstructions that hinder catching. You can observe the fish to see that nothing is wrong much easier, also. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "FBCS" wrote in message ... Do you put a pump and filter in this 100 gal rubermaid (newbe here trying to learn). I normally just put them in the pond after a half hour in the water bagged. Joann wrote in message ... tsk, tsk ... no quarantine? you gotta get a 100 gallon rubbermaid and have it always set up waiting for this kind of contingency. Ingrid "BenignVanilla" wrote: My bro-in-law has a friend that is moving, and is adopting her fish out, I guess because she does not trust the new owners. He brought some over for me yesterday. They were in a bucket and all were gasping. I grabbed a 33 gallon rubbermaid, and filled it with pond water, and we moved them over. They immediately relaxed. My water is well aerated, so I assume this was a big help to them. I took a few out and examined them. All seemed healthy to the eye. Scales had nice coloring, and none were missing nor damaged. All fins were intact, and undamaged. No sins of parasites, nor ich. The gill areas seemed clean and healthy. I did not peer inside the gills as I was not sure how to do this safely. The few that he gave me are now in my pond, and swimming happily. One GF is nearly the size of a football!!! I have never seen a GF so big. The others have now begun following him around the pond. The Koi looked p*ssed and are sulking in the corner. I also got some water lettuce from them. What an awesome looking plant! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
New Fish
1. at night with a flashlight. 2 people, net is black. one herds the fish SLOWLY
towards the stationary net. 2. drain the pond down until you can get to it. 3. Jo Ann and Steve use a 3' wide and deep black net. they herd the fish towards this net and then use a koi sock to pick the fish up. Ingrid "*muffin*" wrote: wwellllllllll, not only that.......... but if you cannot catch the fish,, the quarantine tank is useless except for new fish. ok, how do yOU , who can. catch your fish???? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
New Fish
netting across the top held on by elastic (fabric store), a bucket filter and a
couple of airstones. Ingrid "FBCS" wrote: Do you put a pump and filter in this 100 gal rubermaid (newbe here trying to learn). I normally just put them in the pond after a half hour in the water bagged. Joann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
New Fish
ABSOLUTELY. quarantine tanks should be as big as possible. mostly people stick sick
GF into 10 gallon "hospital" tank, I tell em to use a 40 gallon tub instead. But I have had good luck with a 100 gallon stock tank, net, a 5 gallon bucket filter and good aeration. I put it in the shade. anyone with well water can do a run thru system, just drip water in one side, make a small hole on the other end (up high). Ingrid "RichToyBox" wrote: It is a very good idea to have a quarantine system, and the more expensive the fish in your pond the more important it becomes, but... More fish are killed in quarantine than are cured, because the quarantine system has poorer water than the pond. A working filter is a must to keep the ammonia and nitrites down. Too many people keep a small quarantine tank in the garage, with no water, no filter, and fire it up when they get new fish. It has to go through the cycle, if they fire up a filter, and because of the small size it becomes very toxic, very quickly. The quarantine system should have better water in it than the water in the pond. You are trying to get them over the stress of catching, bagging, transporting, etc., and they need good water for that. The quarantine system allows for treatment of fish in a small amount of water so that you are not having to buy chemicals to treat the big pond. It also does not have all the plant pots, and other obstructions that hinder catching. You can observe the fish to see that nothing is wrong much easier, also. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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