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Help with biofilter system
It gets quite confusing when trying to figure out the best filter
system to buy. My pond is 12'x10' and 3 and half feet deep. I would love to find a bio system outside the pond but if a submersible filter system is better I would accept that. Since my pond is not that big, I'm wondering what is the best filter system I can buy for this size pond. Thanks |
Help with biofilter system
Judy wrote: It gets quite confusing when trying to figure out the best filter system to buy. My pond is 12'x10' and 3 and half feet deep. I would love to find a bio system outside the pond but if a submersible filter system is better I would accept that. Since my pond is not that big, I'm wondering what is the best filter system I can buy for this size pond. Thanks -- out of the pond filters are much easyer to clean, without getting the gunk back into the pond also you dont have to get in the pond to get to it to clean it John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
Judy wrote: It gets quite confusing when trying to figure out the best filter system to buy. My pond is 12'x10' and 3 and half feet deep. I would love to find a bio system outside the pond but if a submersible filter system is better I would accept that. Since my pond is not that big, I'm wondering what is the best filter system I can buy for this size pond. Thanks -- out of the pond filters are much easyer to clean, without getting the gunk back into the pond also you dont have to get in the pond to get to it to clean it John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
Hi John, thanks for replying, do you have any suggestions on brands
and types of biosystem for outside the pond? Some thing not too complicated since I am a novice at plumbing. Thanks Judy John Rutz wrote in message ... Judy wrote: It gets quite confusing when trying to figure out the best filter system to buy. My pond is 12'x10' and 3 and half feet deep. I would love to find a bio system outside the pond but if a submersible filter system is better I would accept that. Since my pond is not that big, I'm wondering what is the best filter system I can buy for this size pond. Thanks -- out of the pond filters are much easyer to clean, without getting the gunk back into the pond also you dont have to get in the pond to get to it to clean it John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
Hi John, thanks for replying, do you have any suggestions on brands
and types of biosystem for outside the pond? Some thing not too complicated since I am a novice at plumbing. Thanks Judy John Rutz wrote in message ... Judy wrote: It gets quite confusing when trying to figure out the best filter system to buy. My pond is 12'x10' and 3 and half feet deep. I would love to find a bio system outside the pond but if a submersible filter system is better I would accept that. Since my pond is not that big, I'm wondering what is the best filter system I can buy for this size pond. Thanks -- out of the pond filters are much easyer to clean, without getting the gunk back into the pond also you dont have to get in the pond to get to it to clean it John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
Hi John, thanks for replying, do you have any suggestions on brands
and types of biosystem for outside the pond? Some thing not too complicated since I am a novice at plumbing. Thanks Judy John Rutz wrote in message ... Judy wrote: It gets quite confusing when trying to figure out the best filter system to buy. My pond is 12'x10' and 3 and half feet deep. I would love to find a bio system outside the pond but if a submersible filter system is better I would accept that. Since my pond is not that big, I'm wondering what is the best filter system I can buy for this size pond. Thanks -- out of the pond filters are much easyer to clean, without getting the gunk back into the pond also you dont have to get in the pond to get to it to clean it John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
Hi Judy.
Along with all the other good advice you're receiving here, please remember that your pump needs to cycle the entire volume of water (in your case, about 3150 Gals.), every hour. So you'd need a 3000 GPH pump, minimum. If you're pumping up to your biofilter or up to a waterfall, that needs to be considered as well. A filter outside of the pond is indeed very much easier to maintain, while leaving the pump itself in the pond is quieter. Once you decide if you will have a waterfall, or how high you're going to pump the water before returning it to the pond, lots of folks here can help you figure out the "head loss". I have a link to a site which provides several designs of biofilters you can easily and inexpensively build yourself if you've a mind to. Sometimes though, it's easier just to buy one and get it over with. Hope this helps, Mark "Nedra" wrote in message rthlink.net... John is absolutely correct on this. For a bought filter - Never take the manufacturers word for number of gallons filtered. Especially so if you have or intend to get Koi. I bought a Pond Filtration 3000 more than 6 years ago for $325. My pond is about 3000... so I thought I was set. I had 5 or 6 juvenile Koi and 5 juvenile Gold Fish. As the fish grew so did my appetite for Butterfly Koi. I bought only 2 - an Orange one and an Orange and Black one. Everything started going haywire three years ago. The Koi grew like gangbusters.... I added a veggie filter - then I noticed Koi babies in the pond. I now have 13 Koi and several Large Gold Fish with quiet a few smaller goldfish. This is how your filtration will grow - it has to keep up with the fish population. ;-) Good Luck .. Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "John Rutz" wrote in message ... Judy wrote: Hi John, thanks for replying, do you have any suggestions on brands and types of biosystem for outside the pond? Some thing not too complicated since I am a novice at plumbing. Thanks Judy not realy I havent used a comercial filter in years been building my own but can tell you this if your pond fer instance is 1200 galons look for a filter that is advertised for 3000 gal in other words at least twice the size of your pond if not 3x manufacturers seem to over rate thier filters in my opinion by a factor of 2 for goldfish and by 4 for Koi John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
Hi Judy.
Along with all the other good advice you're receiving here, please remember that your pump needs to cycle the entire volume of water (in your case, about 3150 Gals.), every hour. So you'd need a 3000 GPH pump, minimum. If you're pumping up to your biofilter or up to a waterfall, that needs to be considered as well. A filter outside of the pond is indeed very much easier to maintain, while leaving the pump itself in the pond is quieter. Once you decide if you will have a waterfall, or how high you're going to pump the water before returning it to the pond, lots of folks here can help you figure out the "head loss". I have a link to a site which provides several designs of biofilters you can easily and inexpensively build yourself if you've a mind to. Sometimes though, it's easier just to buy one and get it over with. Hope this helps, Mark "Nedra" wrote in message rthlink.net... John is absolutely correct on this. For a bought filter - Never take the manufacturers word for number of gallons filtered. Especially so if you have or intend to get Koi. I bought a Pond Filtration 3000 more than 6 years ago for $325. My pond is about 3000... so I thought I was set. I had 5 or 6 juvenile Koi and 5 juvenile Gold Fish. As the fish grew so did my appetite for Butterfly Koi. I bought only 2 - an Orange one and an Orange and Black one. Everything started going haywire three years ago. The Koi grew like gangbusters.... I added a veggie filter - then I noticed Koi babies in the pond. I now have 13 Koi and several Large Gold Fish with quiet a few smaller goldfish. This is how your filtration will grow - it has to keep up with the fish population. ;-) Good Luck .. Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "John Rutz" wrote in message ... Judy wrote: Hi John, thanks for replying, do you have any suggestions on brands and types of biosystem for outside the pond? Some thing not too complicated since I am a novice at plumbing. Thanks Judy not realy I havent used a comercial filter in years been building my own but can tell you this if your pond fer instance is 1200 galons look for a filter that is advertised for 3000 gal in other words at least twice the size of your pond if not 3x manufacturers seem to over rate thier filters in my opinion by a factor of 2 for goldfish and by 4 for Koi John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
You mentioned you build your own, could you explain what you use to
build your own biofilter system? It was also mentioned that the pump would be placed in the pond, what is used to keep the pump from clogging? Do you use a basket of some sort? I did put together a veggie filter but I didn't put a drain in the bottom, wow was that work to clean. My big mistake. John Rutz wrote in message ... Judy wrote: Hi John, thanks for replying, do you have any suggestions on brands and types of biosystem for outside the pond? Some thing not too complicated since I am a novice at plumbing. Thanks Judy not realy I havent used a comercial filter in years been building my own but can tell you this if your pond fer instance is 1200 galons look for a filter that is advertised for 3000 gal in other words at least twice the size of your pond if not 3x manufacturers seem to over rate thier filters in my opinion by a factor of 2 for goldfish and by 4 for Koi John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
You mentioned you build your own, could you explain what you use to
build your own biofilter system? It was also mentioned that the pump would be placed in the pond, what is used to keep the pump from clogging? Do you use a basket of some sort? I did put together a veggie filter but I didn't put a drain in the bottom, wow was that work to clean. My big mistake. John Rutz wrote in message ... Judy wrote: Hi John, thanks for replying, do you have any suggestions on brands and types of biosystem for outside the pond? Some thing not too complicated since I am a novice at plumbing. Thanks Judy not realy I havent used a comercial filter in years been building my own but can tell you this if your pond fer instance is 1200 galons look for a filter that is advertised for 3000 gal in other words at least twice the size of your pond if not 3x manufacturers seem to over rate thier filters in my opinion by a factor of 2 for goldfish and by 4 for Koi John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
Hi Judy, I have attached some links below I highly recommend the Blondie
of Skippy Filter. They both work for me! Skippy's Filter: http://www.skippysstuff.com/biofiltr.htm Blondie's Filter Design: http://www.blondieswebdesigns.com/wa...biofilter.html Various DIY Filter home pages: http://mikebentley.com/ponds/homemadefilters.htm -- _______________________________________ "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'." http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino "Judy" wrote in message om... You mentioned you build your own, could you explain what you use to build your own biofilter system? It was also mentioned that the pump would be placed in the pond, what is used to keep the pump from clogging? Do you use a basket of some sort? I did put together a veggie filter but I didn't put a drain in the bottom, wow was that work to clean. My big mistake. John Rutz wrote in message ... Judy wrote: Hi John, thanks for replying, do you have any suggestions on brands and types of biosystem for outside the pond? Some thing not too complicated since I am a novice at plumbing. Thanks Judy not realy I havent used a comercial filter in years been building my own but can tell you this if your pond fer instance is 1200 galons look for a filter that is advertised for 3000 gal in other words at least twice the size of your pond if not 3x manufacturers seem to over rate thier filters in my opinion by a factor of 2 for goldfish and by 4 for Koi John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
Hi Judy, I have attached some links below I highly recommend the Blondie
of Skippy Filter. They both work for me! Skippy's Filter: http://www.skippysstuff.com/biofiltr.htm Blondie's Filter Design: http://www.blondieswebdesigns.com/wa...biofilter.html Various DIY Filter home pages: http://mikebentley.com/ponds/homemadefilters.htm -- _______________________________________ "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'." http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino "Judy" wrote in message om... You mentioned you build your own, could you explain what you use to build your own biofilter system? It was also mentioned that the pump would be placed in the pond, what is used to keep the pump from clogging? Do you use a basket of some sort? I did put together a veggie filter but I didn't put a drain in the bottom, wow was that work to clean. My big mistake. John Rutz wrote in message ... Judy wrote: Hi John, thanks for replying, do you have any suggestions on brands and types of biosystem for outside the pond? Some thing not too complicated since I am a novice at plumbing. Thanks Judy not realy I havent used a comercial filter in years been building my own but can tell you this if your pond fer instance is 1200 galons look for a filter that is advertised for 3000 gal in other words at least twice the size of your pond if not 3x manufacturers seem to over rate thier filters in my opinion by a factor of 2 for goldfish and by 4 for Koi John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
Judy wrote: You mentioned you build your own, could you explain what you use to build your own biofilter system? It was also mentioned that the pump would be placed in the pond, what is used to keep the pump from clogging? Do you use a basket of some sort? I did put together a veggie filter but I didn't put a drain in the bottom, wow was that work to clean. My big mistake. look at Jan Jordans demon pond filter its a good well designed filter and a place to start we can help you size it to your particular needs John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
Judy wrote: You mentioned you build your own, could you explain what you use to build your own biofilter system? It was also mentioned that the pump would be placed in the pond, what is used to keep the pump from clogging? Do you use a basket of some sort? I did put together a veggie filter but I didn't put a drain in the bottom, wow was that work to clean. My big mistake. look at Jan Jordans demon pond filter its a good well designed filter and a place to start we can help you size it to your particular needs John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
Help with biofilter system
Judy, check out this web site http://www.mvwgs.org/filter.htm .
I made this filter about a month ago and it took about 2 hours including the trip to Loews and cost just less than $20. I made sure all the filter pieces fit very snugly together to eliminate the possibility of accidental bypass or channeling. My water is sparkling clear. Never was that clean before as I had to clean the filter (Pondmaster 1000) about every 5-7 days and after 3 days the flow was considerably reduced. If that doesn't suit your needs for some reason, check out this page - has about 20 different designs..... http://www.mikebentley.com/ponds/homemadefilters.htm BK "Judy" wrote in message om... You mentioned you build your own, could you explain what you use to build your own biofilter system? It was also mentioned that the pump would be placed in the pond, what is used to keep the pump from clogging? Do you use a basket of some sort? I did put together a veggie filter but I didn't put a drain in the bottom, wow was that work to clean. My big mistake. John Rutz wrote in message ... Judy wrote: Hi John, thanks for replying, do you have any suggestions on brands and types of biosystem for outside the pond? Some thing not too complicated since I am a novice at plumbing. Thanks Judy not realy I havent used a comercial filter in years been building my own but can tell you this if your pond fer instance is 1200 galons look for a filter that is advertised for 3000 gal in other words at least twice the size of your pond if not 3x manufacturers seem to over rate thier filters in my opinion by a factor of 2 for goldfish and by 4 for Koi John Rutz Z5 New Mexico never miss a good oportunity to shut up see my pond at: http://www.fuerjefe.com |
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