Honey for koi ?
Just read about feeding bread (non bleached), soaked in honey, to koi, and
wondered what the jury here would say about it ? Anyone doing this or is it a big no-no ? Ta, Theo |
Honey for koi ?
Hey Theo!
Honey is fine for them; if you can find bee pollen, that's good, too. The (extremely!) high-end Japanese import foods have honey and bee pollen in them. Another thing you could try: koi *love* garlic!!! When I mix up paste food for them, I always add garlic powder, and they eat it right up. Also, if yours hand-feed, try rubbing some garlic on your fingers and see what happens! Lee "Theo van Daele" wrote in message ... Just read about feeding bread (non bleached), soaked in honey, to koi, and wondered what the jury here would say about it ? Anyone doing this or is it a big no-no ? Ta, Theo |
Honey for koi ?
Hey Lee,
Well, tried it in the mean time and they absolutely *loved* it :-) (but then again I reckon when I just drop some concrete in they'll eat that as well ;-) High end food... I'm using Hikari mostly, and hoping that's good stuff ? I also tried the garlic (couldn't resist) and rubbed my hands in fresh garlic. Yup, they were very interested indeed. Had to get used to it it seemed, and then they really started to get the hang of it. So I give them a minuscule particle... yup, they eat that too. In the mean time, I finally found a fish I've been wanting for years ... a 3 year old magoi. Very strong & tame fish, eats out of my hand after one day :eek: ! http://www.wide-o.net/summerpond2003/magoi.jpg Is there something as CompulsiveKoiBuyers Anonymous, because I need it ? ;-) Theo "Lee Brouillet" schreef in bericht ... Hey Theo! Honey is fine for them; if you can find bee pollen, that's good, too. The (extremely!) high-end Japanese import foods have honey and bee pollen in them. Another thing you could try: koi *love* garlic!!! When I mix up paste food for them, I always add garlic powder, and they eat it right up. Also, if yours hand-feed, try rubbing some garlic on your fingers and see what happens! Lee |
Honey for koi ?
LUVly fishie! The magoi/chagoi/ochiba's are all pretty close to the
"natural" carp, so they're very hardy, indeed. Further, they are *famous* for being easy to tame and will learn to hand-feed readily. And - it seems that once *one* fish does it, the rest get jealous and want to do it, too. That's another of the fish on my Wish List. If you find CompulsiveKoiBuyersAnonymous, please sign me up right after you .. . . (sigh). Hikari is a good food: you're not cheating your babies. I purchased some of the Gold (with the color enhancers) and had to give it away: my white fish were taking on a distinct "blush". It was quite disturbing to watch my high-end shiro utsuri turn pink! The non-white fish looked great, though G! The *really* high-end fish food I was talking about has silkworm pupae in it, in addition to the bee pollen and honey. But it goes for about $45 US per pound. Personally, as much as I like my fish, I'm not sacrificing MY grocery budget for THEIRS! Lee "Theo van Daele" wrote in message ... Hey Lee, Well, tried it in the mean time and they absolutely *loved* it :-) (but then again I reckon when I just drop some concrete in they'll eat that as well ;-) High end food... I'm using Hikari mostly, and hoping that's good stuff ? I also tried the garlic (couldn't resist) and rubbed my hands in fresh garlic. Yup, they were very interested indeed. Had to get used to it it seemed, and then they really started to get the hang of it. So I give them a minuscule particle... yup, they eat that too. In the mean time, I finally found a fish I've been wanting for years ... a 3 year old magoi. Very strong & tame fish, eats out of my hand after one day :eek: ! http://www.wide-o.net/summerpond2003/magoi.jpg Is there something as CompulsiveKoiBuyers Anonymous, because I need it ? ;-) Theo "Lee Brouillet" schreef in bericht ... Hey Theo! Honey is fine for them; if you can find bee pollen, that's good, too. The (extremely!) high-end Japanese import foods have honey and bee pollen in them. Another thing you could try: koi *love* garlic!!! When I mix up paste food for them, I always add garlic powder, and they eat it right up. Also, if yours hand-feed, try rubbing some garlic on your fingers and see what happens! Lee |
Honey for koi ?
I feed my guys and gals the Koi food from
koivet.com - I purposely buy the small pellet. The big kids really go for it and the small Goldies get a bite too. Just ordered my third bag..... Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Lee Brouillet" wrote in message ... LUVly fishie! The magoi/chagoi/ochiba's are all pretty close to the "natural" carp, so they're very hardy, indeed. Further, they are *famous* for being easy to tame and will learn to hand-feed readily. And - it seems that once *one* fish does it, the rest get jealous and want to do it, too. That's another of the fish on my Wish List. If you find CompulsiveKoiBuyersAnonymous, please sign me up right after you . . . (sigh). Hikari is a good food: you're not cheating your babies. I purchased some of the Gold (with the color enhancers) and had to give it away: my white fish were taking on a distinct "blush". It was quite disturbing to watch my high-end shiro utsuri turn pink! The non-white fish looked great, though G! The *really* high-end fish food I was talking about has silkworm pupae in it, in addition to the bee pollen and honey. But it goes for about $45 US per pound. Personally, as much as I like my fish, I'm not sacrificing MY grocery budget for THEIRS! Lee "Theo van Daele" wrote in message ... Hey Lee, Well, tried it in the mean time and they absolutely *loved* it :-) (but then again I reckon when I just drop some concrete in they'll eat that as well ;-) High end food... I'm using Hikari mostly, and hoping that's good stuff ? I also tried the garlic (couldn't resist) and rubbed my hands in fresh garlic. Yup, they were very interested indeed. Had to get used to it it seemed, and then they really started to get the hang of it. So I give them a minuscule particle... yup, they eat that too. In the mean time, I finally found a fish I've been wanting for years ... a 3 year old magoi. Very strong & tame fish, eats out of my hand after one day :eek: ! http://www.wide-o.net/summerpond2003/magoi.jpg Is there something as CompulsiveKoiBuyers Anonymous, because I need it ? ;-) Theo "Lee Brouillet" schreef in bericht ... Hey Theo! Honey is fine for them; if you can find bee pollen, that's good, too. The (extremely!) high-end Japanese import foods have honey and bee pollen in them. Another thing you could try: koi *love* garlic!!! When I mix up paste food for them, I always add garlic powder, and they eat it right up. Also, if yours hand-feed, try rubbing some garlic on your fingers and see what happens! Lee |
Honey for koi ?
That's ALSO a good food! Doc J catches a lot of flack because he makes
mistakes and goes public with them. I think it kinda makes him human, and if HE can make stupid boo-boos with all of his expertise, then the rest of us need to be on our toes G! The stuff he advocates/stands behind can be pricey, but they're also good. And yes, a lot of the stuff he advocates are sponsors of his various sites and projects, but that does not mean that the products are not worthy of attention and evaluation. Lee "Nedra" wrote in message rthlink.net... I feed my guys and gals the Koi food from koivet.com - I purposely buy the small pellet. The big kids really go for it and the small Goldies get a bite too. Just ordered my third bag..... Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Lee Brouillet" wrote in message ... LUVly fishie! The magoi/chagoi/ochiba's are all pretty close to the "natural" carp, so they're very hardy, indeed. Further, they are *famous* for being easy to tame and will learn to hand-feed readily. And - it seems that once *one* fish does it, the rest get jealous and want to do it, too. That's another of the fish on my Wish List. If you find CompulsiveKoiBuyersAnonymous, please sign me up right after you . . . (sigh). Hikari is a good food: you're not cheating your babies. I purchased some of the Gold (with the color enhancers) and had to give it away: my white fish were taking on a distinct "blush". It was quite disturbing to watch my high-end shiro utsuri turn pink! The non-white fish looked great, though G! The *really* high-end fish food I was talking about has silkworm pupae in it, in addition to the bee pollen and honey. But it goes for about $45 US per pound. Personally, as much as I like my fish, I'm not sacrificing MY grocery budget for THEIRS! Lee "Theo van Daele" wrote in message ... Hey Lee, Well, tried it in the mean time and they absolutely *loved* it :-) (but then again I reckon when I just drop some concrete in they'll eat that as well ;-) High end food... I'm using Hikari mostly, and hoping that's good stuff ? I also tried the garlic (couldn't resist) and rubbed my hands in fresh garlic. Yup, they were very interested indeed. Had to get used to it it seemed, and then they really started to get the hang of it. So I give them a minuscule particle... yup, they eat that too. In the mean time, I finally found a fish I've been wanting for years .... a 3 year old magoi. Very strong & tame fish, eats out of my hand after one day :eek: ! http://www.wide-o.net/summerpond2003/magoi.jpg Is there something as CompulsiveKoiBuyers Anonymous, because I need it ? ;-) Theo "Lee Brouillet" schreef in bericht ... Hey Theo! Honey is fine for them; if you can find bee pollen, that's good, too. The (extremely!) high-end Japanese import foods have honey and bee pollen in them. Another thing you could try: koi *love* garlic!!! When I mix up paste food for them, I always add garlic powder, and they eat it right up. Also, if yours hand-feed, try rubbing some garlic on your fingers and see what happens! Lee |
Honey for koi ?
Further, they are *famous*
for being easy to tame and will learn to hand-feed readily. They are :eek: My wife got her first "kissy" from it this evening, that's after, erm... 26 hours in the pond. Betty (who turned out to be Bert really) is an Ochiba, and he was/is always the first to swim towards us. We can actually take her out of the water (we don't, but we tried once). She is worse than our cats, and is a real pet. And indeed, she "forced" the rest of the fish to do the same. Even the small baby koi we bought this year love the hands thing, they just saw their big bro' do it and follow suit. And - it seems that once *one* fish does it, the rest get jealous and want to do it, too. That's another of the fish on my Wish List. They got my attention after reading more about them being so tame & strong. Apparently, in a Japanese pond you need at least one of them, as a black fish is supposed to bring luck. "Mother" of all Kois. Hmmm... those chagois looked quite nice as well... If you find CompulsiveKoiBuyersAnonymous, please sign me up right after you . . . (sigh). :-) I purchased some of the Gold (with the color enhancers) and had to give it away: my white fish were taking on a distinct "blush". I have that one too, and the "problem" there is that it contains carotene, which also makes white go pink. Apparantly (I'm not an expert mind !) the food with Spirulina does a better job (Hikari do that one also). Mexicans eat that too (it's an algae) and it only deepens the red and doesn't turn white into pink. FWIW. The *really* high-end fish food I was talking about has silkworm pupae in it Ah, I have that stuff too :blush:, but not from Hikari. It's from Velda, and I don't think most of their products are really up to snuff, but the dried silkworms are pretty good IMHO. The fish go crazy when I feed that, but I also read it should only be fed when it's really warm, and only once a week, as it can cause diabetes - or so I heard. Something to really think about: I found a reference that claims that magoi actually came from ... Persia (Iran/Iraq). Seems to be relevant to the current discussions no ? :-) Theo |
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