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Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
Well, I tried it again. I put on the goggles and snorkel and cruised our
pond for about a half hour. I highly recommend it if you can fit and if your spouse/family will not ridicule you too much. The koi paths make better sense from an underwater perspective! After a few minutes, the fish just considered me a harmless giant. If I sat still, they would come right up to my mask. The big koi look really big from that perspective. I need to do that with an underwater camera some time! After the careful search, I saw a total of one small fish that is not a gambusia. Sadly, it may have been a platy. Conclusion: there are precious few goldfish or koi babies. Any theories about the lack of babies, other than predation? I have not sees clear spawning behavior...but then I have not done the night and flashlight thing. Jim -- ____________________________________________ Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per jogger) at: www.jogathon.net See our pond at: http://www.home.bellsouth.net/p/pwp-jameshurley |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
Conclusion: there are preciousfew goldfish or koi babies.Any theories about
the lack of babies, other than predation? I have notsees clear spawning behavior...but then I have not done the night andflashlight thing. I have probably a hundred goldfish babies....and over a dozen koi babies.....the difference this year is a HUGE amount of anacharis in all the ponds. This gives them some place to not only lay the eggs, but for the babies to hide. The koi babies are probably close to 2 inches now, and they still hang around in it....The grown koi avoid it for some reason. I highly reccomend it. It also has kept the algea to zero this year....except for a little string algea in the goldfish pond Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
Conclusion: there are preciousfew goldfish or koi babies.Any theories about
the lack of babies, other than predation? I have notsees clear spawning behavior...but then I have not done the night andflashlight thing. I have probably a hundred goldfish babies....and over a dozen koi babies.....the difference this year is a HUGE amount of anacharis in all the ponds. This gives them some place to not only lay the eggs, but for the babies to hide. The koi babies are probably close to 2 inches now, and they still hang around in it....The grown koi avoid it for some reason. I highly reccomend it. It also has kept the algea to zero this year....except for a little string algea in the goldfish pond Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
On 20 Jul 2003 23:47:16 GMT, (Jerrispond) wrote:
Conclusion: there are preciousfew goldfish or koi babies.Any theories about the lack of babies, other than predation? I have notsees clear spawning behavior...but then I have not done the night andflashlight thing. I have probably a hundred goldfish babies....and over a dozen koi babies.....the difference this year is a HUGE amount of anacharis in all the ponds. This gives them some place to not only lay the eggs, but for the babies to hide. The koi babies are probably close to 2 inches now, and they still hang around in it....The grown koi avoid it for some reason. I highly reccomend it. It also has kept the algea to zero this year....except for a little string algea in the goldfish pond Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond Hi, My neighbor had been real snooty when i was talking about a small pond last year. (A bowl of green slime with hoards of mosquitos is what she was expecting as she knew i wouldn't have a pump, etc) She came over today and asked to see it. I had to wipe a grin off of my face when she showed surprise at my clear water! HA! I have loads of anacharis. |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
jammer wrote:
My neighbor had been real snooty when i was talking about a small pond last year. (A bowl of green slime with hoards of mosquitos is what she was expecting as she knew i wouldn't have a pump, etc) She came over today and asked to see it. I had to wipe a grin off of my face when she showed surprise at my clear water! HA! I think I had my current pond filled for about a week and a half when my neighbor came over complaining that it "smelled" and the smell on her proch was horrible. My s.o. and I went down there and sure enough, she had a horrible smell on her porch. After about fifteen minutes of trying to track down the origin and being 100% certain it wasn't coming from the pond, my s.o. finally found it. The neighbor had put up a fly trap not far from her porch and it was filled with rotting, putrid flies. She hasn't bothered me since. *grin* Susan shsimko at duke dot edu |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
jammer wrote:
My neighbor had been real snooty when i was talking about a small pond last year. (A bowl of green slime with hoards of mosquitos is what she was expecting as she knew i wouldn't have a pump, etc) She came over today and asked to see it. I had to wipe a grin off of my face when she showed surprise at my clear water! HA! I think I had my current pond filled for about a week and a half when my neighbor came over complaining that it "smelled" and the smell on her proch was horrible. My s.o. and I went down there and sure enough, she had a horrible smell on her porch. After about fifteen minutes of trying to track down the origin and being 100% certain it wasn't coming from the pond, my s.o. finally found it. The neighbor had put up a fly trap not far from her porch and it was filled with rotting, putrid flies. She hasn't bothered me since. *grin* Susan shsimko at duke dot edu |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
jammer wrote:
My neighbor had been real snooty when i was talking about a small pond last year. (A bowl of green slime with hoards of mosquitos is what she was expecting as she knew i wouldn't have a pump, etc) She came over today and asked to see it. I had to wipe a grin off of my face when she showed surprise at my clear water! HA! I think I had my current pond filled for about a week and a half when my neighbor came over complaining that it "smelled" and the smell on her proch was horrible. My s.o. and I went down there and sure enough, she had a horrible smell on her porch. After about fifteen minutes of trying to track down the origin and being 100% certain it wasn't coming from the pond, my s.o. finally found it. The neighbor had put up a fly trap not far from her porch and it was filled with rotting, putrid flies. She hasn't bothered me since. *grin* Susan shsimko at duke dot edu |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
How do you get enough anacharis to make a difference when koi are so fond of
it? I tried and it was just fruitless. The reason I don't have "natural" filtration in the form of plants is that the fish eat them all up before they can multiply. I had to give up and give in to hubby's "gadget mentality" and get a uv light. I wanted to feel like I had mastered the "balance" thing and clear my own water, but he wouldn't be patient and couldn't see why I didn't want to just "buy" a solution. I couldn't explain that I don't feel like a true ponder if I didn't get the water to clear naturally. It really was moot, when the plants didn't stand a chance, but I still wanted the koi and to him, that was the point, not the ongoing science experiment. So, how do you still have koi and anacharis together? Ann "Jerrispond" wrote in message ... Conclusion: there are preciousfew goldfish or koi babies.Any theories about the lack of babies, other than predation? I have notsees clear spawning behavior...but then I have not done the night andflashlight thing. I have probably a hundred goldfish babies....and over a dozen koi babies.....the difference this year is a HUGE amount of anacharis in all the ponds. This gives them some place to not only lay the eggs, but for the babies to hide. The koi babies are probably close to 2 inches now, and they still hang around in it....The grown koi avoid it for some reason. I highly reccomend it. It also has kept the algea to zero this year....except for a little string algea in the goldfish pond Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
Ann, My anacharis is in the Veggie Filter. My solution.
Nedra Here is my first pond.... http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 and here is the lotus pond .. http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Ann in Houston" wrote in message .com... How do you get enough anacharis to make a difference when koi are so fond of it? I tried and it was just fruitless. The reason I don't have "natural" filtration in the form of plants is that the fish eat them all up before they can multiply. I had to give up and give in to hubby's "gadget mentality" and get a uv light. I wanted to feel like I had mastered the "balance" thing and clear my own water, but he wouldn't be patient and couldn't see why I didn't want to just "buy" a solution. I couldn't explain that I don't feel like a true ponder if I didn't get the water to clear naturally. It really was moot, when the plants didn't stand a chance, but I still wanted the koi and to him, that was the point, not the ongoing science experiment. So, how do you still have koi and anacharis together? Ann "Jerrispond" wrote in message ... Conclusion: there are preciousfew goldfish or koi babies.Any theories about the lack of babies, other than predation? I have notsees clear spawning behavior...but then I have not done the night andflashlight thing. I have probably a hundred goldfish babies....and over a dozen koi babies.....the difference this year is a HUGE amount of anacharis in all the ponds. This gives them some place to not only lay the eggs, but for the babies to hide. The koi babies are probably close to 2 inches now, and they still hang around in it....The grown koi avoid it for some reason. I highly reccomend it. It also has kept the algea to zero this year....except for a little string algea in the goldfish pond Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
How do you get enough anacharis to make a difference when koi are so fond of
it? I tried and it was just fruitless. The reason I don't have "natural" filtration in the form of plants is that the fish eat them all up before they can multiply. I had to give up and give in to hubby's "gadget mentality" and get a uv light. I wanted to feel like I had mastered the "balance" thing and clear my own water, but he wouldn't be patient and couldn't see why I didn't want to just "buy" a solution. I couldn't explain that I don't feel like a true ponder if I didn't get the water to clear naturally. It really was moot, when the plants didn't stand a chance, but I still wanted the koi and to him, that was the point, not the ongoing science experiment. So, how do you still have koi and anacharis together? Ann "Jerrispond" wrote in message ... Conclusion: there are preciousfew goldfish or koi babies.Any theories about the lack of babies, other than predation? I have notsees clear spawning behavior...but then I have not done the night andflashlight thing. I have probably a hundred goldfish babies....and over a dozen koi babies.....the difference this year is a HUGE amount of anacharis in all the ponds. This gives them some place to not only lay the eggs, but for the babies to hide. The koi babies are probably close to 2 inches now, and they still hang around in it....The grown koi avoid it for some reason. I highly reccomend it. It also has kept the algea to zero this year....except for a little string algea in the goldfish pond Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
Ann, My anacharis is in the Veggie Filter. My solution.
Nedra Here is my first pond.... http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 and here is the lotus pond .. http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Ann in Houston" wrote in message .com... How do you get enough anacharis to make a difference when koi are so fond of it? I tried and it was just fruitless. The reason I don't have "natural" filtration in the form of plants is that the fish eat them all up before they can multiply. I had to give up and give in to hubby's "gadget mentality" and get a uv light. I wanted to feel like I had mastered the "balance" thing and clear my own water, but he wouldn't be patient and couldn't see why I didn't want to just "buy" a solution. I couldn't explain that I don't feel like a true ponder if I didn't get the water to clear naturally. It really was moot, when the plants didn't stand a chance, but I still wanted the koi and to him, that was the point, not the ongoing science experiment. So, how do you still have koi and anacharis together? Ann "Jerrispond" wrote in message ... Conclusion: there are preciousfew goldfish or koi babies.Any theories about the lack of babies, other than predation? I have notsees clear spawning behavior...but then I have not done the night andflashlight thing. I have probably a hundred goldfish babies....and over a dozen koi babies.....the difference this year is a HUGE amount of anacharis in all the ponds. This gives them some place to not only lay the eggs, but for the babies to hide. The koi babies are probably close to 2 inches now, and they still hang around in it....The grown koi avoid it for some reason. I highly reccomend it. It also has kept the algea to zero this year....except for a little string algea in the goldfish pond Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
good going! Glad you pleasantly suprised her!
No reason for her (or others) to be snotty- Life's too short. : ] "jammer" wrote in message ... On 20 Jul 2003 23:47:16 GMT, (Jerrispond) wrote: Conclusion: there are preciousfew goldfish or koi babies.Any theories about the lack of babies, other than predation? I have notsees clear spawning behavior...but then I have not done the night andflashlight thing. I have probably a hundred goldfish babies....and over a dozen koi babies.....the difference this year is a HUGE amount of anacharis in all the ponds. This gives them some place to not only lay the eggs, but for the babies to hide. The koi babies are probably close to 2 inches now, and they still hang around in it....The grown koi avoid it for some reason. I highly reccomend it. It also has kept the algea to zero this year....except for a little string algea in the goldfish pond Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond Hi, My neighbor had been real snooty when i was talking about a small pond last year. (A bowl of green slime with hoards of mosquitos is what she was expecting as she knew i wouldn't have a pump, etc) She came over today and asked to see it. I had to wipe a grin off of my face when she showed surprise at my clear water! HA! I have loads of anacharis. |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
I bought a lot of Anacharis and Hornwart torward the end of the season last
year. (First year for larger pond, 2nd year ponding) Over the winter, it GREW while the fish where hibernating! This spring, there was a TON of anacharis and Hornwart growing from the bottom of the pond. We think that this gave the KOI the environment to make the babies that we thought they where too young to produce. Now we have a ton of koi-lings. The greenery has been eaten down somewhat, but we try to feed the outdoor fish twice a day. We are currently running 5 different sections in our main pond. 1 2'x8'x1' section for Water Hyacinth. 1 2'x8'x1' section for Mosaic and some other marginals. 1 main pond area 5.5'x10'x2' Full of Lillies and Koi. 1 150 gallon rubbermaid for Water lettuce. (Fed by a 500GPH pump from the main area.) 1 650 gallon poly tank. 8' round. More Lillies and GF here. This is also the place where the 2800GPH pump draws from. Last winter, I just kept the main section(Koi) and the 8' round (GF) going. Nedra wrote in message rthlink.net... Ann, My anacharis is in the Veggie Filter. My solution. Nedra Here is my first pond.... http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 and here is the lotus pond .. http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Ann in Houston" wrote in message .com... How do you get enough anacharis to make a difference when koi are so fond of it? I tried and it was just fruitless. The reason I don't have "natural" filtration in the form of plants is that the fish eat them all up before they can multiply. I had to give up and give in to hubby's "gadget mentality" and get a uv light. I wanted to feel like I had mastered the "balance" thing and clear my own water, but he wouldn't be patient and couldn't see why I didn't want to just "buy" a solution. I couldn't explain that I don't feel like a true ponder if I didn't get the water to clear naturally. It really was moot, when the plants didn't stand a chance, but I still wanted the koi and to him, that was the point, not the ongoing science experiment. So, how do you still have koi and anacharis together? Ann "Jerrispond" wrote in message ... Conclusion: there are preciousfew goldfish or koi babies.Any theories about the lack of babies, other than predation? I have notsees clear spawning behavior...but then I have not done the night andflashlight thing. I have probably a hundred goldfish babies....and over a dozen koi babies.....the difference this year is a HUGE amount of anacharis in all the ponds. This gives them some place to not only lay the eggs, but for the babies to hide. The koi babies are probably close to 2 inches now, and they still hang around in it....The grown koi avoid it for some reason. I highly reccomend it. It also has kept the algea to zero this year....except for a little string algea in the goldfish pond Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond |
Snorkelling the pond...why no babies
good going! Glad you pleasantly suprised her!
No reason for her (or others) to be snotty- Life's too short. : ] "jammer" wrote in message ... On 20 Jul 2003 23:47:16 GMT, (Jerrispond) wrote: Conclusion: there are preciousfew goldfish or koi babies.Any theories about the lack of babies, other than predation? I have notsees clear spawning behavior...but then I have not done the night andflashlight thing. I have probably a hundred goldfish babies....and over a dozen koi babies.....the difference this year is a HUGE amount of anacharis in all the ponds. This gives them some place to not only lay the eggs, but for the babies to hide. The koi babies are probably close to 2 inches now, and they still hang around in it....The grown koi avoid it for some reason. I highly reccomend it. It also has kept the algea to zero this year....except for a little string algea in the goldfish pond Jerri http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond Hi, My neighbor had been real snooty when i was talking about a small pond last year. (A bowl of green slime with hoards of mosquitos is what she was expecting as she knew i wouldn't have a pump, etc) She came over today and asked to see it. I had to wipe a grin off of my face when she showed surprise at my clear water! HA! I have loads of anacharis. |
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