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DIY Fake Rocks
Hi -
Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
Try this:
http://pages.prodigy.net/airs/rocks/making.htm Mark "stricks760" wrote in message news:VRGVa.31975$Ne.31673@fed1read03... Hi - Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
It's pretty easy. Make a bunch of test rocks first though because it is
something that takes practice. Check out all the concrete aquarium backgrounds I made: http://www.tiversa.com/concrete/ Sam "stricks760" wrote in message news:VRGVa.31975$Ne.31673@fed1read03... Hi - Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
I like that 20 Gallon XHIGH Cave. How exactly did you make it.
Sam Hopkins wrote: It's pretty easy. Make a bunch of test rocks first though because it is something that takes practice. Check out all the concrete aquarium backgrounds I made: http://www.tiversa.com/concrete/ Sam "stricks760" wrote in message news:VRGVa.31975$Ne.31673@fed1read03... Hi - Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
The background was first made with styrofoam for the 3D shape and then
coated in concrete. Using a brush in a stipple motion made the texture. What you cant see is the custom stand I made for it. The entire tank was covered by the stand with the exception of the front glass. The background wrapped around the sides. This gave it a great "zoo style" apperance. Sam "Gene" wrote in message ... I like that 20 Gallon XHIGH Cave. How exactly did you make it. Sam Hopkins wrote: It's pretty easy. Make a bunch of test rocks first though because it is something that takes practice. Check out all the concrete aquarium backgrounds I made: http://www.tiversa.com/concrete/ Sam "stricks760" wrote in message news:VRGVa.31975$Ne.31673@fed1read03... Hi - Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
The background was first made with styrofoam for the 3D shape and then
coated in concrete. Using a brush in a stipple motion made the texture. What you cant see is the custom stand I made for it. The entire tank was covered by the stand with the exception of the front glass. The background wrapped around the sides. This gave it a great "zoo style" apperance. Sam "Gene" wrote in message ... I like that 20 Gallon XHIGH Cave. How exactly did you make it. Sam Hopkins wrote: It's pretty easy. Make a bunch of test rocks first though because it is something that takes practice. Check out all the concrete aquarium backgrounds I made: http://www.tiversa.com/concrete/ Sam "stricks760" wrote in message news:VRGVa.31975$Ne.31673@fed1read03... Hi - Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
I am playing around with the chicken wire and concrete approach. I
need something that can stand up to cold winters in addition to adventurous kids in the summer. I am planning builing over liner and will have to be carefull not to have any exposed chicken wire that can puncture the liner. I recommend making a test rock before taking on the project. I went home over lunch and took some pictures of my test rock. http://members.cox.net/bokowski/rock.html I have two more sides to texture... and I have spent two evenings this week to get it to what you see (5 hours or so -- less if I wouldn't have added so much water to the concrete). btw, the finished texture was created with aluminum foil. As far as troubles in the water... the rock should be well sealed with all the painting/finishing processes I need to do to get a realistic looking rock. Most of my research comes from companies that produce water features for wildlife... so I will take there word for now. Of course, my feeder goldfish "that I can't get rid" of will be the ones with it on the line. |
DIY Fake Rocks
Hi Sam,
Do you recommend fully submerging the rocks of the type you make? What type of paint would you suggest for that type of application? Will the concrete cause problems with fish / plants over time? Thank you, Mark "Sam Hopkins" wrote in message .. . The background was first made with styrofoam for the 3D shape and then coated in concrete. Using a brush in a stipple motion made the texture. What you cant see is the custom stand I made for it. The entire tank was covered by the stand with the exception of the front glass. The background wrapped around the sides. This gave it a great "zoo style" apperance. Sam "Gene" wrote in message ... I like that 20 Gallon XHIGH Cave. How exactly did you make it. Sam Hopkins wrote: It's pretty easy. Make a bunch of test rocks first though because it is something that takes practice. Check out all the concrete aquarium backgrounds I made: http://www.tiversa.com/concrete/ Sam "stricks760" wrote in message news:VRGVa.31975$Ne.31673@fed1read03... Hi - Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
Sam - you're a man of many talents! Those actually look real! I suppose
though - after digging your lake - you probably had a lot of stone to use as "inpiration", huh? Really nice work! Lee "Sam Hopkins" wrote in message .. . It's pretty easy. Make a bunch of test rocks first though because it is something that takes practice. Check out all the concrete aquarium backgrounds I made: http://www.tiversa.com/concrete/ Sam "stricks760" wrote in message news:VRGVa.31975$Ne.31673@fed1read03... Hi - Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
The rocks can be submerged. Like any concrete product they'll leach calcium
hydroxide for a while. I purchase concrete coloring but since concrete stains you can use anything with color. For instance if you wanted a "blue" rock you could dye it with food coloring. That's why people put sealers on their walkways so that someone dropping a coke wont ruin your walkway. You can't use normal paint because the concrete will make the paint peel over time. Once the calcium hydroxide is leached out of the concrete it would cause any problems. Calcium hydroxide is what raises the PH of water when you place concrete into it. It's PH is about 12-13 and will quickly raise the water's PH to that if there's not enough water to dilute it. "Mark T." wrote in message ... Hi Sam, Do you recommend fully submerging the rocks of the type you make? What type of paint would you suggest for that type of application? Will the concrete cause problems with fish / plants over time? Thank you, Mark "Sam Hopkins" wrote in message .. . The background was first made with styrofoam for the 3D shape and then coated in concrete. Using a brush in a stipple motion made the texture. What you cant see is the custom stand I made for it. The entire tank was covered by the stand with the exception of the front glass. The background wrapped around the sides. This gave it a great "zoo style" apperance. Sam "Gene" wrote in message ... I like that 20 Gallon XHIGH Cave. How exactly did you make it. Sam Hopkins wrote: It's pretty easy. Make a bunch of test rocks first though because it is something that takes practice. Check out all the concrete aquarium backgrounds I made: http://www.tiversa.com/concrete/ Sam "stricks760" wrote in message news:VRGVa.31975$Ne.31673@fed1read03... Hi - Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
Thanks Lee. I used to drive around on my motorcycle and take pictures of
cool rock formations and try to reproduce them at home. It's a fun hobby when it's too hot to do anything else outside. Sam "Lee Brouillet" wrote in message ... Sam - you're a man of many talents! Those actually look real! I suppose though - after digging your lake - you probably had a lot of stone to use as "inpiration", huh? Really nice work! Lee "Sam Hopkins" wrote in message .. . It's pretty easy. Make a bunch of test rocks first though because it is something that takes practice. Check out all the concrete aquarium backgrounds I made: http://www.tiversa.com/concrete/ Sam "stricks760" wrote in message news:VRGVa.31975$Ne.31673@fed1read03... Hi - Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
The rocks can be submerged. Like any concrete product they'll leach calcium
hydroxide for a while. I purchase concrete coloring but since concrete stains you can use anything with color. For instance if you wanted a "blue" rock you could dye it with food coloring. That's why people put sealers on their walkways so that someone dropping a coke wont ruin your walkway. You can't use normal paint because the concrete will make the paint peel over time. Once the calcium hydroxide is leached out of the concrete it would cause any problems. Calcium hydroxide is what raises the PH of water when you place concrete into it. It's PH is about 12-13 and will quickly raise the water's PH to that if there's not enough water to dilute it. "Mark T." wrote in message ... Hi Sam, Do you recommend fully submerging the rocks of the type you make? What type of paint would you suggest for that type of application? Will the concrete cause problems with fish / plants over time? Thank you, Mark "Sam Hopkins" wrote in message .. . The background was first made with styrofoam for the 3D shape and then coated in concrete. Using a brush in a stipple motion made the texture. What you cant see is the custom stand I made for it. The entire tank was covered by the stand with the exception of the front glass. The background wrapped around the sides. This gave it a great "zoo style" apperance. Sam "Gene" wrote in message ... I like that 20 Gallon XHIGH Cave. How exactly did you make it. Sam Hopkins wrote: It's pretty easy. Make a bunch of test rocks first though because it is something that takes practice. Check out all the concrete aquarium backgrounds I made: http://www.tiversa.com/concrete/ Sam "stricks760" wrote in message news:VRGVa.31975$Ne.31673@fed1read03... Hi - Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
Thanks Lee. I used to drive around on my motorcycle and take pictures of
cool rock formations and try to reproduce them at home. It's a fun hobby when it's too hot to do anything else outside. Sam "Lee Brouillet" wrote in message ... Sam - you're a man of many talents! Those actually look real! I suppose though - after digging your lake - you probably had a lot of stone to use as "inpiration", huh? Really nice work! Lee "Sam Hopkins" wrote in message .. . It's pretty easy. Make a bunch of test rocks first though because it is something that takes practice. Check out all the concrete aquarium backgrounds I made: http://www.tiversa.com/concrete/ Sam "stricks760" wrote in message news:VRGVa.31975$Ne.31673@fed1read03... Hi - Still pondering about my waterfall. (1) Anyone with experience making fake rocks? I've got a book or two, is it as easy as they make it sound? (2) I've read about chicken wire and concrete approach, and the expanding foam approach. Any comments? (3) Doing ANYTHING involving chicken wire on top of the liner sounds like trouble to me, comments? (4) All these concrete fake rocks, same issues with alkalinity as concrete in the pond itself? A ton of questions, but the fake rocks thing is sounding like a good option. But a realistic option? Thanks! |
DIY Fake Rocks
Sam wrote I used to drive around on my motorcycle and take pictures of
cool rock formations and try to reproduce them at home. It's a fun hobby when it's too hot to do anything else outside. Cool! Just goes to show ponders are people of many and varied talents! k30a yearly brother website posting http://www.30acreimaging.com/ |
DIY Fake Rocks
Hello all, New here and was happy to come apond others with my interest of rock
making. I must admit they all look so awesome. I wanted to share my easy way to create a rock. Not manmade by girlmade! My base form is the same, plywood and or crumbled newspapers to get my desired shape. I use the cans of expanding form for filling up cracks! It's so easy to direct the spray and can be moved around easily to the shape I envision. Then I just use cement to give it nooks and crannies, then paint and seal. Easy street. Rocks made easy, any shape or size and so light weight, even a girl can carry it. Hope this helps! Radd |
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