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unidentified green frog
I see small green frogs around here but have been unable to
identify them, either through books or the Herps of TX site. I did get a few good photos and would like to post them to a binaries group and direct interested parties there to maybe help me ID the frogs, but there are SOOOOO many binaries groups, and I don't know which I should be posting the frog photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? Gail near San Antonio TX Zone 8 |
unidentified green frog
photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? alt.binaries.clip-art Ask for help in ID'ing the little critters. |
unidentified green frog
"GrannyGrump" wrote in message
... photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? alt.binaries.clip-art Ask for help in ID'ing the little critters. Ok, I checked out alt.binaries.clip-art and all I saw was a bunch of postings of ... clip art. Not the place I would think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm missing something?? Gail |
unidentified green frog
Gail Futoran wrote:
"GrannyGrump" wrote in message ... photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? alt.binaries.clip-art Ask for help in ID'ing the little critters. Ok, I checked out alt.binaries.clip-art and all I saw was a bunch of postings of ... clip art. Not the place I would think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm missing something?? Gail rec.binaries.herp? search rec groups -- -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) |
unidentified green frog
"GrannyGrump" wrote in message
... photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? alt.binaries.clip-art Ask for help in ID'ing the little critters. Ok, I checked out alt.binaries.clip-art and all I saw was a bunch of postings of ... clip art. Not the place I would think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm missing something?? Gail |
unidentified green frog
Gail Futoran wrote:
"GrannyGrump" wrote in message ... photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? alt.binaries.clip-art Ask for help in ID'ing the little critters. Ok, I checked out alt.binaries.clip-art and all I saw was a bunch of postings of ... clip art. Not the place I would think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm missing something?? Gail rec.binaries.herp? search rec groups -- -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) |
unidentified green frog
think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm missing something?? You're missing something... Try Ken's suggestion. |
unidentified green frog
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:19:34 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: I see small green frogs around here but have been unable to identify them, either through books or the Herps of TX site. I did get a few good photos and would like to post them to a binaries group and direct interested parties there to maybe help me ID the frogs, but there are SOOOOO many binaries groups, and I don't know which I should be posting the frog photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? Gail near San Antonio TX Zone 8 As a start you might visit=20 http://talkto.thefrog.org/index.php?...opic&forum=3D7 Then a visit to=20 http://www.lifesci.utexas.edu/research/txherps/frogs/ might help you identify your frogs. |
unidentified green frog
think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm missing something?? You're missing something... Try Ken's suggestion. |
unidentified green frog
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:19:34 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: I see small green frogs around here but have been unable to identify them, either through books or the Herps of TX site. I did get a few good photos and would like to post them to a binaries group and direct interested parties there to maybe help me ID the frogs, but there are SOOOOO many binaries groups, and I don't know which I should be posting the frog photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? Gail near San Antonio TX Zone 8 As a start you might visit=20 http://talkto.thefrog.org/index.php?...opic&forum=3D7 Then a visit to=20 http://www.lifesci.utexas.edu/research/txherps/frogs/ might help you identify your frogs. |
unidentified green frog
"KenCo" wrote in message
... Gail Futoran wrote: rec.binaries.herp? search rec groups Unfortunately my server doesn't list any rec.binaries group, just alt.binaries groups, and no alt.binaries.herps or the like. I suppose the thing to do is go to Google groups and try to find something that might work without offending anyone with a potentially off-topic question. :) Gail |
unidentified green frog
"GrannyGrump" wrote in message
... think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm missing something?? You're missing something... Clip art is mostly line drawings, and most of that is related to the Holiday season. I really don't think the posters to alt.binaries.clip-art would appreciate my coming in with a real-life frog photo and asking for an ID. That's why I asked if I was missing something but you really didn't tell me what I was missing. Try Ken's suggestion. As I wrote to Ken, my server doesn't list any rec.binaries groups, only alt.binaries groups and none that list herps or frogs or toads or anything similar. I'm heading for Google groups and will figure something out on my own. I just thought if someone here had experience posting wildlife/pond/etc. photos to a binaries group, they could point me in the right direction, as I've tried to help others in the past. So I'll just retract the request and thank those of you who tried to help. I'll take it from here on my own. Gail San Antonio TX |
unidentified green frog
"GrannyGrump" wrote in message
... photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? alt.binaries.clip-art Ask for help in ID'ing the little critters. Ok, I checked out alt.binaries.clip-art and all I saw was a bunch of postings of ... clip art. Not the place I would think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm missing something?? Gail |
unidentified green frog
Gail Futoran wrote:
"GrannyGrump" wrote in message ... photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? alt.binaries.clip-art Ask for help in ID'ing the little critters. Ok, I checked out alt.binaries.clip-art and all I saw was a bunch of postings of ... clip art. Not the place I would think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm missing something?? Gail rec.binaries.herp? search rec groups -- -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) |
unidentified green frog
think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm missing something?? You're missing something... Try Ken's suggestion. |
unidentified green frog
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:19:34 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: I see small green frogs around here but have been unable to identify them, either through books or the Herps of TX site. I did get a few good photos and would like to post them to a binaries group and direct interested parties there to maybe help me ID the frogs, but there are SOOOOO many binaries groups, and I don't know which I should be posting the frog photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? Gail near San Antonio TX Zone 8 As a start you might visit=20 http://talkto.thefrog.org/index.php?...opic&forum=3D7 Then a visit to=20 http://www.lifesci.utexas.edu/research/txherps/frogs/ might help you identify your frogs. |
unidentified green frog
"KenCo" wrote in message
... Gail Futoran wrote: rec.binaries.herp? search rec groups Unfortunately my server doesn't list any rec.binaries group, just alt.binaries groups, and no alt.binaries.herps or the like. I suppose the thing to do is go to Google groups and try to find something that might work without offending anyone with a potentially off-topic question. :) Gail |
unidentified green frog
"GrannyGrump" wrote in message
... think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm missing something?? You're missing something... Clip art is mostly line drawings, and most of that is related to the Holiday season. I really don't think the posters to alt.binaries.clip-art would appreciate my coming in with a real-life frog photo and asking for an ID. That's why I asked if I was missing something but you really didn't tell me what I was missing. Try Ken's suggestion. As I wrote to Ken, my server doesn't list any rec.binaries groups, only alt.binaries groups and none that list herps or frogs or toads or anything similar. I'm heading for Google groups and will figure something out on my own. I just thought if someone here had experience posting wildlife/pond/etc. photos to a binaries group, they could point me in the right direction, as I've tried to help others in the past. So I'll just retract the request and thank those of you who tried to help. I'll take it from here on my own. Gail San Antonio TX |
unidentified green frog
"Rex Walker" wrote in message
... On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:19:34 GMT, "Gail Futoran" wrote: I see small green frogs around here but have been unable to identify them, either through books or the Herps of TX site. I did get a few good photos and would like to post them to a binaries group and direct interested parties there to maybe help me ID the frogs, but there are SOOOOO many binaries groups, and I don't know which I should be posting the frog photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? Gail near San Antonio TX Zone 8 As a start you might visit http://talkto.thefrog.org/index.php?...vtopic&forum=7 Then a visit to http://www.lifesci.utexas.edu/research/txherps/frogs/ might help you identify your frogs. "Many thanks for those links. I've explored the second one (Herps of TX) quite a bit with no success over the past year or two, but I'm not familiar with the first link and will look into it." Gail |
unidentified green frog
Clip art is mostly line drawings, and most of that is related to the Holiday season. I really don't think the posters to alt.binaries.clip-art would appreciate my coming in with a real-life frog photo and asking for an ID. All images are posted on clip-art, not just line drawings. Actually, very little line drawings are posted there. Worth a try...put OT in the subject line. Worst they can do is flame you or ignore you. |
unidentified green frog
Gail Futoran wrote:
Unfortunately my server doesn't list any rec.binaries group, just alt.binaries groups, and no alt.binaries.herps or the like. I suppose the thing to do is go to Google groups and try to find something that might work without offending anyone with a potentially off-topic question. :) Gail how big is the file size of the pic?? if its under 50K then email it to me and i'll post a link for anyone to view it. -- -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) |
unidentified green frog
Gail,
A quick trip to Google searching for these words identify frog Texas turns up quite a few links, one that has pictures is http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/idguide/ You can also buy a good field guide, highly recommended is Roger Conant's "A Field Guide to Reptiles and Amphibians", a Peterson Field Guide. Happy Ponding, Tim "Gail Futoran" wrote in message ... I see small green frogs around here but have been unable to identify them, either through books or the Herps of TX site. I did get a few good photos and would like to post them to a binaries group and direct interested parties there to maybe help me ID the frogs, but there are SOOOOO many binaries groups, and I don't know which I should be posting the frog photos to. Any suggestions, preferences? Gail near San Antonio TX Zone 8 |
unidentified green frog
Even easier to use might be this link, you can click on any state and it'll
show thumbnails of frogs found in that state: http://www.nwf.org/frogwatchUSA/frog...state=tx#frogs "tim chandler" wrote in message ... Gail, A quick trip to Google searching for these words identify frog Texas turns up quite a few links, one that has pictures is http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/idguide/ You can also buy a good field guide, highly recommended is Roger Conant's "A Field Guide to Reptiles and Amphibians", a Peterson Field Guide. Happy Ponding, Tim |
unidentified green frog
"KenCo" wrote in message
... Gail Futoran wrote: Unfortunately my server doesn't list any rec.binaries group, just alt.binaries groups, and no alt.binaries.herps or the like. I suppose the thing to do is go to Google groups and try to find something that might work without offending anyone with a potentially off-topic question. :) Gail how big is the file size of the pic?? if its under 50K then email it to me and i'll post a link for anyone to view it. Thanks for the offer, Ken. I had planned to edit the photo(s) and make them as small as possible and still viewable. Let me get back to you about it. Gail |
unidentified green frog
Thanks for the links. I've bookmarked them. I didn't spot
"my" frog (he/she seems to be hiding g) but there are some possibilities there. I've thought about purchasing the guidebook you mentioned but perusing it in the bookstore I didn't see my frog, and I have several other guidebooks already. But I didn't have the photos at the time, so that might be a possibility. Gail "tim chandler" wrote in message ... Even easier to use might be this link, you can click on any state and it'll show thumbnails of frogs found in that state: http://www.nwf.org/frogwatchUSA/frog...state=tx#frogs "tim chandler" wrote in message ... Gail, A quick trip to Google searching for these words identify frog Texas turns up quite a few links, one that has pictures is http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/idguide/ You can also buy a good field guide, highly recommended is Roger Conant's "A Field Guide to Reptiles and Amphibians", a Peterson Field Guide. Happy Ponding, Tim |
unidentified green frog
Gail Futoran wrote:
Thanks for the offer, Ken. I had planned to edit the photo(s) and make them as small as possible and still viewable. Let me get back to you about it. Gail there up, look here. http://www.kencofish.com/pics/frog1.jpg http://www.kencofish.com/pics/frog2.jpg -- -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121 Please Note: No trees or animals were harmed in the sending of this contaminant free message We do concede that a signicant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced ;) |
unidentified green frog
Well..... it's an amphibian! a frog I think. Looks more frog like than toad like. Need a more detailed and bigger picture. ka30p http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...dors/home.html |
unidentified green frog
"KenCo" wrote
there up, look here. http://www.kencofish.com/pics/frog1.jpg http://www.kencofish.com/pics/frog2.jpg -- -- http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold, 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556 Importer/Exporter of Goldfish,Koi,rare Predators Shipping to legal states/countries only! Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps Thanks, Ken! Just to repeat basic info.: These are small frogs, less than 2" long, consistent olive green color (no other colors or patterns), mottled skin. I see them mostly after a rain but this guy was on the surface of one of my rose beds. I have also seen them underwater in small frog ponds or container lids that collected rainwater temporarily. I live just east of San Antonio TX and have not been able to identify these frogs in books or various websites. If anyone knows what they are, I'd love to be informed. Gail |
unidentified green frog
"Ka30P" wrote in message
... Well..... it's an amphibian! a frog I think. Looks more frog like than toad like. Need a more detailed and bigger picture. ka30p http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...dors/home.html I already figured out it was a frog. I have toads in the yard, Gulf Coast Toads (no problem identifying them). The green frog looks kind of like a lot of other frogs I've seen in books and on websites but not a close enough fit. These are the best pictures I've been able to get in about 3 years of observing (opportunistically) these little guys. Gail |
unidentified green frog
Have you been able to see the belly part? It looks to me from the back very
much like a Fire-Belly Toad that PetsMart is always selling. They don't look very toad like either, and about similar in size. Their belly region will be creme to red in color based on what they've been eating and/or mating season (got me). All I pulled up was a tiny fingernail picture, so can't really tell, other than that is what went thru my mind. Not sure where Fire-Belly Toads are native (website says Asia), but I'm sure if PetsMart sells them down there, turn a few loose in your warm climate and they'd probably do fine. http://centralpets.com/pages/photopa..._TOD2552.shtml for photos of FB Toads, though mine were not that bumpy or brightly colored. ~ jan I already figured out it was a frog. I have toads in the yard, Gulf Coast Toads (no problem identifying them). The green frog looks kind of like a lot of other frogs I've seen in books and on websites but not a close enough fit. These are the best pictures I've been able to get in about 3 years of observing (opportunistically) these little guys. Gail See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Defrosted~ Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
unidentified green frog
The frog in the pictures appears to be a juvenile bullfrog. I'd guess
there is a breeding site nearby, and you experience migrations of metamorphized offspring (a couple or three inches long, snout to vent). A pretty common thing. "Gail Futoran" wrote: Thanks for the links. I've bookmarked them. I didn't spot "my" frog (he/she seems to be hiding g) but there are some possibilities there. I've thought about purchasing the guidebook you mentioned but perusing it in the bookstore I didn't see my frog, and I have several other guidebooks already. But I didn't have the photos at the time, so that might be a possibility. Gail "tim chandler" wrote in message .. . Even easier to use might be this link, you can click on any state and it'll show thumbnails of frogs found in that state: http://www.nwf.org/frogwatchUSA/frog...state=tx#frogs "tim chandler" wrote in message ... Gail, A quick trip to Google searching for these words identify frog Texas turns up quite a few links, one that has pictures is http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/idguide/ You can also buy a good field guide, highly recommended is Roger Conant's "A Field Guide to Reptiles and Amphibians", a Peterson Field Guide. Happy Ponding, Tim |
unidentified green frog
"GD" wrote in message
... The frog in the pictures appears to be a juvenile bullfrog. I'd guess there is a breeding site nearby, and you experience migrations of metamorphized offspring (a couple or three inches long, snout to vent). A pretty common thing. Bullfrogs get to be pretty darned big, don't they? And I would kind of expect to have seen one of them around the yard in 10 years of living in this house. In that time I've seen plenty of Gulf Coast Toads (from babies to full-grown - about 5"), and the rare sighting of these little green frogs that never are larger than 2" - usually less. I think that's the adult size, else bullfrogs are breeding in my yard then going elsewhere? Doesn't make much sense when I have an in-ground pond they can happily breed in and eat the minnows. ::shrug:: Plus the only tadpoles I've seen are (presumably Gulf Coast) toad tadpoles that transform in one season - heck, in about two months. Gail |
unidentified green frog
"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
... Have you been able to see the belly part? It looks to me from the back very much like a Fire-Belly Toad that PetsMart is always selling. They don't look very toad like either, and about similar in size. Their belly region will be creme to red in color based on what they've been eating and/or mating season (got me). All I pulled up was a tiny fingernail picture, so can't really tell, other than that is what went thru my mind. Not sure where Fire-Belly Toads are native (website says Asia), but I'm sure if PetsMart sells them down there, turn a few loose in your warm climate and they'd probably do fine. The little green frogs in my yard are uniformly green and with no patterns - the Fire Belly Toads in the photo at the link you gave have distinct black marks on their backs. Size, shape & "wartiness" are similar, though, so that was a reasonable guess. I believe my green frogs are native but can't prove it yet. Next time I see one I'll (carefully) capture it and take it to the San Antonio Zoo! I'm a member, the least they can do is ID a local frog for me. :) Gail |
unidentified green frog
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:51:07 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: Next time I see one I'll (carefully) capture it and take it to the San Antonio Zoo! I'm a member, the least they can do is ID a local frog for me. :) Gail Do report what you find out, we'd all like to know. Course, now that you really want to find one, will they cooperate? ;o) ~ jan See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Defrosted~ Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
unidentified green frog
"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
... On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:51:07 GMT, "Gail Futoran" wrote: Next time I see one I'll (carefully) capture it and take it to the San Antonio Zoo! I'm a member, the least they can do is ID a local frog for me. :) Gail Do report what you find out, we'd all like to know. Course, now that you really want to find one, will they cooperate? ;o) ~ jan They haven't in the last ten years, but then I never expected to see one sitting on top of one of my rose beds, bold as you please. :) Gail |
unidentified green frog
Looking through Texas Monthly Fieldguide Series "A
Fieldguide to Reptiles & Amphibians of Texas", Blanchard's cricket frog is the closest match to my green frog, in shape & size, even pose! The photo in the book (plate 4, lower left photo) almost exactly matches the pose shown in the photo Ken so kindly posted: http://www.kencofish.com/pics/frog1.jpg Color and pattern are the only major differences I can see. And the Blanchard's cricket frog is widespread in TX. Maybe it's just a color difference? I don't think it's a treefrog, because "my" frog lacks the broader pads on its fingertips. Anyway, in terms of world peace it doesn't count for much, but I find I enjoy the challenge of identifying wildlife, and eventually we'll figure it out. Thanks for y'all's indulgence! Happy holidays - Gail |
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