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Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
I would like to weld a rebar
grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
This is a very valid concern. We took our granddaughter to Water Babies so
she would learn how to float if she fell in. When she did, and I think it is inevitable that they will because a pond is so attractive, she bobbed to the surface and rolled over on her back, just like she was trained to do. Her mom snatched her out, she wiped her face and said "I'm never going to do that again, grandma!" There where not tears, no trama. That moment made it well worth the cost of the lessons. You have a major problem with it not being fenced. I think any lawyer would advise you to fill it in because it is what the legalese call and "attractive nuisance" and lawsuit fodder. -- Shalom! Mike -n- Sue Clymer "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
This is a very valid concern. We took our granddaughter to Water Babies so
she would learn how to float if she fell in. When she did, and I think it is inevitable that they will because a pond is so attractive, she bobbed to the surface and rolled over on her back, just like she was trained to do. Her mom snatched her out, she wiped her face and said "I'm never going to do that again, grandma!" There where not tears, no trama. That moment made it well worth the cost of the lessons. You have a major problem with it not being fenced. I think any lawyer would advise you to fill it in because it is what the legalese call and "attractive nuisance" and lawsuit fodder. -- Shalom! Mike -n- Sue Clymer "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
This is a very valid concern. We took our granddaughter to Water Babies so
she would learn how to float if she fell in. When she did, and I think it is inevitable that they will because a pond is so attractive, she bobbed to the surface and rolled over on her back, just like she was trained to do. Her mom snatched her out, she wiped her face and said "I'm never going to do that again, grandma!" There where not tears, no trama. That moment made it well worth the cost of the lessons. You have a major problem with it not being fenced. I think any lawyer would advise you to fill it in because it is what the legalese call and "attractive nuisance" and lawsuit fodder. -- Shalom! Mike -n- Sue Clymer "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
Well being a pool and a pond owner I would suggest talking to your
insurance company. They are really good at knowing what the local laws are and how to intrepet them. Ours suggested keeping our gate locked to keep our liability limited in case kids sneaking into the yard. That said, If it was me, with a yard that wasn't fenced, backing onto a greenbelt used by kids... I would seriously think about fencing the yard or fencing the pond itself. It may be the only option for protecting yourself from a major lawsuit. Janet in snowy Niagara Falls "Michael Lee" wrote in message ... This is a very valid concern. We took our granddaughter to Water Babies so she would learn how to float if she fell in. When she did, and I think it is inevitable that they will because a pond is so attractive, she bobbed to the surface and rolled over on her back, just like she was trained to do. Her mom snatched her out, she wiped her face and said "I'm never going to do that again, grandma!" There where not tears, no trama. That moment made it well worth the cost of the lessons. You have a major problem with it not being fenced. I think any lawyer would advise you to fill it in because it is what the legalese call and "attractive nuisance" and lawsuit fodder. -- Shalom! Mike -n- Sue Clymer "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
This is a very valid concern. We took our granddaughter to Water Babies so
she would learn how to float if she fell in. When she did, and I think it is inevitable that they will because a pond is so attractive, she bobbed to the surface and rolled over on her back, just like she was trained to do. Her mom snatched her out, she wiped her face and said "I'm never going to do that again, grandma!" There where not tears, no trama. That moment made it well worth the cost of the lessons. You have a major problem with it not being fenced. I think any lawyer would advise you to fill it in because it is what the legalese call and "attractive nuisance" and lawsuit fodder. -- Shalom! Mike -n- Sue Clymer "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
Well being a pool and a pond owner I would suggest talking to your
insurance company. They are really good at knowing what the local laws are and how to intrepet them. Ours suggested keeping our gate locked to keep our liability limited in case kids sneaking into the yard. That said, If it was me, with a yard that wasn't fenced, backing onto a greenbelt used by kids... I would seriously think about fencing the yard or fencing the pond itself. It may be the only option for protecting yourself from a major lawsuit. Janet in snowy Niagara Falls "Michael Lee" wrote in message ... This is a very valid concern. We took our granddaughter to Water Babies so she would learn how to float if she fell in. When she did, and I think it is inevitable that they will because a pond is so attractive, she bobbed to the surface and rolled over on her back, just like she was trained to do. Her mom snatched her out, she wiped her face and said "I'm never going to do that again, grandma!" There where not tears, no trama. That moment made it well worth the cost of the lessons. You have a major problem with it not being fenced. I think any lawyer would advise you to fill it in because it is what the legalese call and "attractive nuisance" and lawsuit fodder. -- Shalom! Mike -n- Sue Clymer "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
Well being a pool and a pond owner I would suggest talking to your
insurance company. They are really good at knowing what the local laws are and how to intrepet them. Ours suggested keeping our gate locked to keep our liability limited in case kids sneaking into the yard. That said, If it was me, with a yard that wasn't fenced, backing onto a greenbelt used by kids... I would seriously think about fencing the yard or fencing the pond itself. It may be the only option for protecting yourself from a major lawsuit. Janet in snowy Niagara Falls "Michael Lee" wrote in message ... This is a very valid concern. We took our granddaughter to Water Babies so she would learn how to float if she fell in. When she did, and I think it is inevitable that they will because a pond is so attractive, she bobbed to the surface and rolled over on her back, just like she was trained to do. Her mom snatched her out, she wiped her face and said "I'm never going to do that again, grandma!" There where not tears, no trama. That moment made it well worth the cost of the lessons. You have a major problem with it not being fenced. I think any lawyer would advise you to fill it in because it is what the legalese call and "attractive nuisance" and lawsuit fodder. -- Shalom! Mike -n- Sue Clymer "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
This is a very valid concern. We took our granddaughter to Water Babies so
she would learn how to float if she fell in. When she did, and I think it is inevitable that they will because a pond is so attractive, she bobbed to the surface and rolled over on her back, just like she was trained to do. Her mom snatched her out, she wiped her face and said "I'm never going to do that again, grandma!" There where not tears, no trama. That moment made it well worth the cost of the lessons. You have a major problem with it not being fenced. I think any lawyer would advise you to fill it in because it is what the legalese call and "attractive nuisance" and lawsuit fodder. -- Shalom! Mike -n- Sue Clymer "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
"Michael Lee" wrote in message ... This is a very valid concern. We took our granddaughter to Water Babies so she would learn how to float if she fell in. When she did, and I think it is inevitable that they will because a pond is so attractive, she bobbed to the surface and rolled over on her back, just like she was trained to do. Her mom snatched her out, she wiped her face and said "I'm never going to do that again, grandma!" There where not tears, no trama. That moment made it well worth the cost of the lessons. You have a major problem with it not being fenced. I think any lawyer would advise you to fill it in because it is what the legalese call and "attractive nuisance" and lawsuit fodder. snip We've discussed this problem before, and IMHO there is simply one solution. Be an active parent, both teaching them the dangers, and in watching them. When our kids are in the yard, we always keep an eye out. That is part one. Because even with the best training and ALL of the safety devices, it's a big puddle of water, and they will find a way to drown in it. Secondly, education. We have repeatedly beat the dangers of the pond into our children's rapidly expanding grey matter. They know they should not go near the pond without an adult nearby. Our 3 year old took a plunge in, one day while we were working on the pond. That too was good education for him. LOL. OK, I am rambling....in short...don't rely purely on safety devices. Teach them and watch them. BV. www.iheartmypond.com |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
"Michael Lee" wrote in message ... This is a very valid concern. We took our granddaughter to Water Babies so she would learn how to float if she fell in. When she did, and I think it is inevitable that they will because a pond is so attractive, she bobbed to the surface and rolled over on her back, just like she was trained to do. Her mom snatched her out, she wiped her face and said "I'm never going to do that again, grandma!" There where not tears, no trama. That moment made it well worth the cost of the lessons. You have a major problem with it not being fenced. I think any lawyer would advise you to fill it in because it is what the legalese call and "attractive nuisance" and lawsuit fodder. snip We've discussed this problem before, and IMHO there is simply one solution. Be an active parent, both teaching them the dangers, and in watching them. When our kids are in the yard, we always keep an eye out. That is part one. Because even with the best training and ALL of the safety devices, it's a big puddle of water, and they will find a way to drown in it. Secondly, education. We have repeatedly beat the dangers of the pond into our children's rapidly expanding grey matter. They know they should not go near the pond without an adult nearby. Our 3 year old took a plunge in, one day while we were working on the pond. That too was good education for him. LOL. OK, I am rambling....in short...don't rely purely on safety devices. Teach them and watch them. BV. www.iheartmypond.com |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
Try this site
http://www.entdirect.plus.com/safapond/ "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
I could not get that link to work. I also went to
www.entdirect.plus.com (slowest download I have ever seen) but could not find any pond information. ???? John On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:57:28 GMT, "FBCS" wrote: Try this site http://www.entdirect.plus.com/safapond/ "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
I don't think your missing much John imo... it's an extremely expensive
black plastic grate system from the UK. 300 pounds to do a tiny little pond! :oO Janet in very snowy Niagara Falls "John Bachman" wrote in message ... I could not get that link to work. I also went to www.entdirect.plus.com (slowest download I have ever seen) but could not find any pond information. ???? John On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:57:28 GMT, "FBCS" wrote: Try this site http://www.entdirect.plus.com/safapond/ "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
http://www.entdirect.plus.com/safapond/
I pulled it up with no problem. I had saved it on my favorites in case I wanted to do this or some DIY of it at a later date. I have a small grandchild. Try again "John Bachman" wrote in message ... I could not get that link to work. I also went to www.entdirect.plus.com (slowest download I have ever seen) but could not find any pond information. ???? John On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:57:28 GMT, "FBCS" wrote: Try this site http://www.entdirect.plus.com/safapond/ "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
http://www.entdirect.plus.com/safapond/
I pulled it up with no problem. I had saved it on my favorites in case I wanted to do this or some DIY of it at a later date. I have a small grandchild. Try again "John Bachman" wrote in message ... I could not get that link to work. I also went to www.entdirect.plus.com (slowest download I have ever seen) but could not find any pond information. ???? John On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:57:28 GMT, "FBCS" wrote: Try this site http://www.entdirect.plus.com/safapond/ "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
Myself growing up on a lake in Illinois and having various ponds and
children in the last 62 years I have found the best treatment is don't let the little guys get close to the water if they might fall in. But if they might fall in and your right there .. Good .. it will teach them not to fall in any more! Kreist .. did you ware a fibeglass helmet when you rode your bike? Did you have knee pads when you locked your skates on with a KEY ? Did you lose a tooth when you fell down on the gym floor playing dodge ball ... Tell your wife and daughter you'll tie a string with a bell on the kid so if he/she falls in ALL will know ! Then you can go pull them out . They arn't going to drown in one minute. Steve E. Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
We don't have any little kids of our own to worry about but the pond is a
magnet for the neighbor's kids. Inspite of the fact that we live in the mountains and there are ponds for cattle all over the place, the kids like to play around ours. We are not there in winter but find evidence that the kids have been. So we had to take out a bunch of insurance that we wouldn't need if it weren't for the pond. "Steven E. Eyrse" wrote in message ... Myself growing up on a lake in Illinois and having various ponds and children in the last 62 years I have found the best treatment is don't let the little guys get close to the water if they might fall in. But if they might fall in and your right there .. Good .. it will teach them not to fall in any more! Kreist .. did you ware a fibeglass helmet when you rode your bike? Did you have knee pads when you locked your skates on with a KEY ? Did you lose a tooth when you fell down on the gym floor playing dodge ball ... Tell your wife and daughter you'll tie a string with a bell on the kid so if he/she falls in ALL will know ! Then you can go pull them out . They arn't going to drown in one minute. Steve E. Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
"Janet" wrote in message ...
I don't think your missing much John imo... it's an extremely expensive black plastic grate system from the UK. 300 pounds to do a tiny little pond! :oO Janet in very snowy Niagara Falls There is another company that sells things. they are over the top of the pond so that a child cannot go into the water at all.my neighbour had one.they are called pond guard or pond guarder I think.you should be able to find them on the net in one of the search engines. "John Bachman" wrote in message ... I could not get that link to work. I also went to www.entdirect.plus.com (slowest download I have ever seen) but could not find any pond information. ???? John On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:57:28 GMT, "FBCS" wrote: Try this site http://www.entdirect.plus.com/safapond/ "Chumley" wrote in message ... I would like to weld a rebar grid (4-6 inch spacing) together and place it on the plant shelf so you couldn't see it really unless you are right on top of it. I would make it in sections so I could remove it for maintenence. It would satisfy my wife's anxiety to know the grid was there and the water would effectively be only 6 inches deep in case one of our grandkids or neighbor kids fell in. We have no fence and our yard is open to a public greenbelt area which kids use all the time to play. Is this a viable alternative? Should I paint it with epoxy paint to keep the rusting metal from fouling the water? Would the rusting metal harm the fish or plants? Sorry for the long post, but I need some help with this one. Thank you kindly for time and thoughts. Chumley There is another company that sells things. they are over the top of the pond so that a child cannot go into the water at all.my neighbour had one.they are called pond guard or pond guarder I think.you should be able to find them on the net in one of the search engines. |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
IMHO, a fence is the way to go. A grate might be nice, but a child who
falls and strikes his head on a rock will drown in 3" of water, perhaps less. With all our techno stuff, scarecrow motion sprinklers, web cams and you name it, one should get peace of mind in this day an age.... with a fence to slow them down. ;o) ~ jan |
Wife worried about depth of pond and little grandkids and neighbor kids falling in
"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... IMHO, a fence is the way to go. A grate might be nice, but a child who falls and strikes his head on a rock will drown in 3" of water, perhaps less. With all our techno stuff, scarecrow motion sprinklers, web cams and you name it, one should get peace of mind in this day an age.... with a fence to slow them down. ;o) ~ jan I agree Jan. The poster stated that his yard is not fenced and backs onto a public greenbelt that is used extensively by kids. IMO a fence is the only way to go, not only from a saftey standpoint but from a liability one as well. Janet in snowy Niagara Falls! Brr! |
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