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Charles 31-01-2004 08:36 PM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
I've done the web search and it looks like everybody read the same
book regarding this plant, but didn't tell me what I wanted to know.

What is the temperature that the plant will survive in a dormant state
to recover when the water warms again?
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- Charles
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-does not play well with others

Nedra 31-01-2004 09:41 PM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
freeze.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
...
I've done the web search and it looks like everybody read the same
book regarding this plant, but didn't tell me what I wanted to know.

What is the temperature that the plant will survive in a dormant state
to recover when the water warms again?
--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others




Charles 01-02-2004 02:02 AM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:06:56 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
freeze.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118



Actually Nymphaea lotus is a waterlily, not a lotus, that's just its
name. It is a tropical night-bloomer. It is used as an aquarium
plant as well as a pond plant.
--

- Charles
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-does not play well with others

Nedra 01-02-2004 04:05 AM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
Oh Boy .. Is my face ever red. Thanks for the correction.
I knew something didn't seem right in the first LATIN word
but typically I plowed on ;-)

A tropical waterlily does have to be taken inside or replaced
each year here in zone 6.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:06:56 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
freeze.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118



Actually Nymphaea lotus is a waterlily, not a lotus, that's just its
name. It is a tropical night-bloomer. It is used as an aquarium
plant as well as a pond plant.
--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others




Charles 01-02-2004 05:02 AM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
It is rather confusing.

According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)

The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
temperature, or maybe it is the same?

Thanks



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:59:21 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

Oh Boy .. Is my face ever red. Thanks for the correction.
I knew something didn't seem right in the first LATIN word
but typically I plowed on ;-)

A tropical waterlily does have to be taken inside or replaced
each year here in zone 6.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:06:56 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
freeze.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118



Actually Nymphaea lotus is a waterlily, not a lotus, that's just its
name. It is a tropical night-bloomer. It is used as an aquarium
plant as well as a pond plant.
--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others



--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

Charles 01-02-2004 07:49 PM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
I'm still looking for info on the plants.

I'm is So. Calif. This is the second year that it hasn't gotten cold
here, I still have impatiens in the ground that were planted in 2002.
I don't like cold, ice and snow. I know some people do, and they are
welcome to my share.

:-)



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:50:34 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

56 degrees ... I remember those days. Actually the ice storms
and snow have covered my pond. We have more
ice 'n snow expected this afternoon - but our temps are supposed to
moderate.
Thank Heavens for the De-Icer.

Did you figure out the temps for your tropical lily? It seems
that zone 10 should really be fine to keep it alive ... but
I don't know for sure.
Are you in Florida?

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

Nedra 01-02-2004 09:58 PM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
I adore the cold weather - so, I'll take your share, thanks!
Sorry I can't help you on the plants.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
...
I'm still looking for info on the plants.

I'm is So. Calif. This is the second year that it hasn't gotten cold
here, I still have impatiens in the ground that were planted in 2002.
I don't like cold, ice and snow. I know some people do, and they are
welcome to my share.

:-)



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:50:34 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

56 degrees ... I remember those days. Actually the ice storms
and snow have covered my pond. We have more
ice 'n snow expected this afternoon - but our temps are supposed to
moderate.
Thank Heavens for the De-Icer.

Did you figure out the temps for your tropical lily? It seems
that zone 10 should really be fine to keep it alive ... but
I don't know for sure.
Are you in Florida?

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others




Nedra 01-02-2004 10:09 PM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
I adore the cold weather - so, I'll take your share, thanks!
Sorry I can't help you on the plants.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
...
I'm still looking for info on the plants.

I'm is So. Calif. This is the second year that it hasn't gotten cold
here, I still have impatiens in the ground that were planted in 2002.
I don't like cold, ice and snow. I know some people do, and they are
welcome to my share.

:-)



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:50:34 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

56 degrees ... I remember those days. Actually the ice storms
and snow have covered my pond. We have more
ice 'n snow expected this afternoon - but our temps are supposed to
moderate.
Thank Heavens for the De-Icer.

Did you figure out the temps for your tropical lily? It seems
that zone 10 should really be fine to keep it alive ... but
I don't know for sure.
Are you in Florida?

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others




Nedra 01-02-2004 10:09 PM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
I adore the cold weather - so, I'll take your share, thanks!
Sorry I can't help you on the plants.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
...
I'm still looking for info on the plants.

I'm is So. Calif. This is the second year that it hasn't gotten cold
here, I still have impatiens in the ground that were planted in 2002.
I don't like cold, ice and snow. I know some people do, and they are
welcome to my share.

:-)



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:50:34 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

56 degrees ... I remember those days. Actually the ice storms
and snow have covered my pond. We have more
ice 'n snow expected this afternoon - but our temps are supposed to
moderate.
Thank Heavens for the De-Icer.

Did you figure out the temps for your tropical lily? It seems
that zone 10 should really be fine to keep it alive ... but
I don't know for sure.
Are you in Florida?

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others




~ jan JJsPond.us 02-02-2004 12:02 AM

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From my experience it depends on the tropical.

I bring my tropical water lilies inside (Zone 7), so far I've had good luck
with Albert Greenburg, Evelyn Randig and Red Flare wintering well in
62-65F. Last year I tried Dauben, Tina and Wood's White Knight and they did
not come back. This year I put a heater in set at 70F, hoping the newest
one, Blue Capensis, would suvive. It was looking good till we lost power
and my little indoor pond dropped to 55*F. Albert, Evelyn & Red were not
fazed.

Do you know the common name for your T.lily? ~ jan

See my lily pond:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:42:32 GMT, Charles wrote:


It is rather confusing.

According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)

The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
temperature, or maybe it is the same?



Charles 02-02-2004 04:33 AM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
One book says the N. 'Juno' is considered to be N. lotus, and that N.
'Trudy Slocum' is a selection of 'Juno.'

I am getting a bit less sure of the identification as I look more, I
am sure it is a Nymphaea, but it could be N. maculata. Maybe when/if
it blooms I can get a better idea.



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:47:17 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

From my experience it depends on the tropical.

I bring my tropical water lilies inside (Zone 7), so far I've had good luck
with Albert Greenburg, Evelyn Randig and Red Flare wintering well in
62-65F. Last year I tried Dauben, Tina and Wood's White Knight and they did
not come back. This year I put a heater in set at 70F, hoping the newest
one, Blue Capensis, would suvive. It was looking good till we lost power
and my little indoor pond dropped to 55*F. Albert, Evelyn & Red were not
fazed.

Do you know the common name for your T.lily? ~ jan

See my lily pond:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:42:32 GMT, Charles wrote:


It is rather confusing.

According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)

The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
temperature, or maybe it is the same?


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

~ jan JJsPond.us 02-02-2004 11:15 PM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
Does it still have leaves at the crown? ~ jan

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 04:32:22 GMT, Charles wrote:


One book says the N. 'Juno' is considered to be N. lotus, and that N.
'Trudy Slocum' is a selection of 'Juno.'

I am getting a bit less sure of the identification as I look more, I
am sure it is a Nymphaea, but it could be N. maculata. Maybe when/if
it blooms I can get a better idea.



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:47:17 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

From my experience it depends on the tropical.

I bring my tropical water lilies inside (Zone 7), so far I've had good luck
with Albert Greenburg, Evelyn Randig and Red Flare wintering well in
62-65F. Last year I tried Dauben, Tina and Wood's White Knight and they did
not come back. This year I put a heater in set at 70F, hoping the newest
one, Blue Capensis, would suvive. It was looking good till we lost power
and my little indoor pond dropped to 55*F. Albert, Evelyn & Red were not
fazed.

Do you know the common name for your T.lily? ~ jan

See my lily pond:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:42:32 GMT, Charles wrote:


It is rather confusing.

According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)

The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
temperature, or maybe it is the same?



~ jan JJsPond.us 02-02-2004 11:16 PM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
Does it still have leaves at the crown? ~ jan

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 04:32:22 GMT, Charles wrote:


One book says the N. 'Juno' is considered to be N. lotus, and that N.
'Trudy Slocum' is a selection of 'Juno.'

I am getting a bit less sure of the identification as I look more, I
am sure it is a Nymphaea, but it could be N. maculata. Maybe when/if
it blooms I can get a better idea.



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:47:17 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

From my experience it depends on the tropical.

I bring my tropical water lilies inside (Zone 7), so far I've had good luck
with Albert Greenburg, Evelyn Randig and Red Flare wintering well in
62-65F. Last year I tried Dauben, Tina and Wood's White Knight and they did
not come back. This year I put a heater in set at 70F, hoping the newest
one, Blue Capensis, would suvive. It was looking good till we lost power
and my little indoor pond dropped to 55*F. Albert, Evelyn & Red were not
fazed.

Do you know the common name for your T.lily? ~ jan

See my lily pond:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:42:32 GMT, Charles wrote:


It is rather confusing.

According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)

The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
temperature, or maybe it is the same?



adavisus 21-02-2004 06:42 AM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
Charles wrote in message . ..
One book says the N. 'Juno' is considered to be N. lotus, and that N.
'Trudy Slocum' is a selection of 'Juno.'

I am getting a bit less sure of the identification as I look more, I
am sure it is a Nymphaea, but it could be N. maculata. Maybe when/if
it blooms I can get a better idea.


In north carolina, supposedly zone 8 every tropical water lily left
out has been dead and gone when the water temperatures get to lower
than 50°f. Pond water temperatures dont get lower than 40°f but by
then the tropicals have long gone...

Regards, andy
http://www.members.aol.com/abdavisnc/swglist.html

Charles 21-02-2004 07:07 AM

Nymphaea lotus low temperature
 
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 14:24:03 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

Does it still have leaves at the crown? ~ jan

Not sure I understand this. I am presently growing the plants in
tropical aquariums, and they are doing well. I am thinking to add
them to the pond and want to know how warm the water must be before I
do that. The pond has been running about 56F lately, but cold could
still come to visit. I don't remember if I mentioned it, these plants
are sold as dry tubers in the Wal-Mark aquarium section, they hang on
pegs with the artificial plants. They are also selling dry aponegeton
tubers.


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- Charles
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-does not play well with others


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