I've done the web search and it looks like everybody read the same
book regarding this plant, but didn't tell me what I wanted to know.

What is the temperature that the plant will survive in a dormant state
to recover when the water warms again?
--

- Charles
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-does not play well with others

Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
freeze.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
...
I've done the web search and it looks like everybody read the same
book regarding this plant, but didn't tell me what I wanted to know.

What is the temperature that the plant will survive in a dormant state
to recover when the water warms again?
--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:06:56 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
freeze.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


Actually Nymphaea lotus is a waterlily, not a lotus, that's just its
name. It is a tropical night-bloomer. It is used as an aquarium
plant as well as a pond plant.
--

- Charles
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-does not play well with others

Oh Boy .. Is my face ever red. Thanks for the correction.
I knew something didn't seem right in the first LATIN word
but typically I plowed on ;-)

A tropical waterlily does have to be taken inside or replaced
each year here in zone 6.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:06:56 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
freeze.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


Actually Nymphaea lotus is a waterlily, not a lotus, that's just its
name. It is a tropical night-bloomer. It is used as an aquarium
plant as well as a pond plant.
--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

It is rather confusing.

According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)

The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
temperature, or maybe it is the same?

Thanks



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:59:21 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

Oh Boy .. Is my face ever red. Thanks for the correction.
I knew something didn't seem right in the first LATIN word
but typically I plowed on ;-)

A tropical waterlily does have to be taken inside or replaced
each year here in zone 6.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:06:56 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
freeze.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


Actually Nymphaea lotus is a waterlily, not a lotus, that's just its
name. It is a tropical night-bloomer. It is used as an aquarium
plant as well as a pond plant.
--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

I'm still looking for info on the plants.

I'm is So. Calif. This is the second year that it hasn't gotten cold
here, I still have impatiens in the ground that were planted in 2002.
I don't like cold, ice and snow. I know some people do, and they are
welcome to my share.

:-)



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:50:34 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

56 degrees ... I remember those days. Actually the ice storms
and snow have covered my pond. We have more
ice 'n snow expected this afternoon - but our temps are supposed to
moderate.
Thank Heavens for the De-Icer.

Did you figure out the temps for your tropical lily? It seems
that zone 10 should really be fine to keep it alive ... but
I don't know for sure.
Are you in Florida?

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

I adore the cold weather - so, I'll take your share, thanks!
Sorry I can't help you on the plants.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
...
I'm still looking for info on the plants.

I'm is So. Calif. This is the second year that it hasn't gotten cold
here, I still have impatiens in the ground that were planted in 2002.
I don't like cold, ice and snow. I know some people do, and they are
welcome to my share.

:-)



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:50:34 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

56 degrees ... I remember those days. Actually the ice storms
and snow have covered my pond. We have more
ice 'n snow expected this afternoon - but our temps are supposed to
moderate.
Thank Heavens for the De-Icer.

Did you figure out the temps for your tropical lily? It seems
that zone 10 should really be fine to keep it alive ... but
I don't know for sure.
Are you in Florida?

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

I adore the cold weather - so, I'll take your share, thanks!
Sorry I can't help you on the plants.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
...
I'm still looking for info on the plants.

I'm is So. Calif. This is the second year that it hasn't gotten cold
here, I still have impatiens in the ground that were planted in 2002.
I don't like cold, ice and snow. I know some people do, and they are
welcome to my share.

:-)



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:50:34 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

56 degrees ... I remember those days. Actually the ice storms
and snow have covered my pond. We have more
ice 'n snow expected this afternoon - but our temps are supposed to
moderate.
Thank Heavens for the De-Icer.

Did you figure out the temps for your tropical lily? It seems
that zone 10 should really be fine to keep it alive ... but
I don't know for sure.
Are you in Florida?

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

I adore the cold weather - so, I'll take your share, thanks!
Sorry I can't help you on the plants.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" wrote in message
...
I'm still looking for info on the plants.

I'm is So. Calif. This is the second year that it hasn't gotten cold
here, I still have impatiens in the ground that were planted in 2002.
I don't like cold, ice and snow. I know some people do, and they are
welcome to my share.

:-)



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:50:34 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

56 degrees ... I remember those days. Actually the ice storms
and snow have covered my pond. We have more
ice 'n snow expected this afternoon - but our temps are supposed to
moderate.
Thank Heavens for the De-Icer.

Did you figure out the temps for your tropical lily? It seems
that zone 10 should really be fine to keep it alive ... but
I don't know for sure.
Are you in Florida?

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


--

- Charles
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-does not play well with others

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From my experience it depends on the tropical.

I bring my tropical water lilies inside (Zone 7), so far I've had good luck
with Albert Greenburg, Evelyn Randig and Red Flare wintering well in
62-65F. Last year I tried Dauben, Tina and Wood's White Knight and they did
not come back. This year I put a heater in set at 70F, hoping the newest
one, Blue Capensis, would suvive. It was looking good till we lost power
and my little indoor pond dropped to 55*F. Albert, Evelyn & Red were not
fazed.

Do you know the common name for your T.lily? ~ jan

See my lily pond:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:42:32 GMT, Charles wrote:

It is rather confusing.

According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)

The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
temperature, or maybe it is the same?

One book says the N. 'Juno' is considered to be N. lotus, and that N.
'Trudy Slocum' is a selection of 'Juno.'

I am getting a bit less sure of the identification as I look more, I
am sure it is a Nymphaea, but it could be N. maculata. Maybe when/if
it blooms I can get a better idea.



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:47:17 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

From my experience it depends on the tropical.

I bring my tropical water lilies inside (Zone 7), so far I've had good luck
with Albert Greenburg, Evelyn Randig and Red Flare wintering well in
62-65F. Last year I tried Dauben, Tina and Wood's White Knight and they did
not come back. This year I put a heater in set at 70F, hoping the newest
one, Blue Capensis, would suvive. It was looking good till we lost power
and my little indoor pond dropped to 55*F. Albert, Evelyn & Red were not
fazed.

Do you know the common name for your T.lily? ~ jan

See my lily pond:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:42:32 GMT, Charles wrote:

It is rather confusing.

According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)

The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
temperature, or maybe it is the same?

--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

Does it still have leaves at the crown? ~ jan

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 04:32:22 GMT, Charles wrote:

One book says the N. 'Juno' is considered to be N. lotus, and that N.
'Trudy Slocum' is a selection of 'Juno.'

I am getting a bit less sure of the identification as I look more, I
am sure it is a Nymphaea, but it could be N. maculata. Maybe when/if
it blooms I can get a better idea.



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:47:17 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

From my experience it depends on the tropical.

I bring my tropical water lilies inside (Zone 7), so far I've had good luck
with Albert Greenburg, Evelyn Randig and Red Flare wintering well in
62-65F. Last year I tried Dauben, Tina and Wood's White Knight and they did
not come back. This year I put a heater in set at 70F, hoping the newest
one, Blue Capensis, would suvive. It was looking good till we lost power
and my little indoor pond dropped to 55*F. Albert, Evelyn & Red were not
fazed.

Do you know the common name for your T.lily? ~ jan

See my lily pond:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:42:32 GMT, Charles wrote:

It is rather confusing.

According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)

The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
temperature, or maybe it is the same?

Does it still have leaves at the crown? ~ jan

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 04:32:22 GMT, Charles wrote:

One book says the N. 'Juno' is considered to be N. lotus, and that N.
'Trudy Slocum' is a selection of 'Juno.'

I am getting a bit less sure of the identification as I look more, I
am sure it is a Nymphaea, but it could be N. maculata. Maybe when/if
it blooms I can get a better idea.



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:47:17 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

From my experience it depends on the tropical.

I bring my tropical water lilies inside (Zone 7), so far I've had good luck
with Albert Greenburg, Evelyn Randig and Red Flare wintering well in
62-65F. Last year I tried Dauben, Tina and Wood's White Knight and they did
not come back. This year I put a heater in set at 70F, hoping the newest
one, Blue Capensis, would suvive. It was looking good till we lost power
and my little indoor pond dropped to 55*F. Albert, Evelyn & Red were not
fazed.

Do you know the common name for your T.lily? ~ jan

See my lily pond:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:42:32 GMT, Charles wrote:

It is rather confusing.

According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)

The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
temperature, or maybe it is the same?

Charles wrote in message . ..
One book says the N. 'Juno' is considered to be N. lotus, and that N.
'Trudy Slocum' is a selection of 'Juno.'

I am getting a bit less sure of the identification as I look more, I
am sure it is a Nymphaea, but it could be N. maculata. Maybe when/if
it blooms I can get a better idea.


In north carolina, supposedly zone 8 every tropical water lily left
out has been dead and gone when the water temperatures get to lower
than 50°f. Pond water temperatures dont get lower than 40°f but by
then the tropicals have long gone...

Regards, andy
http://www.members.aol.com/abdavisnc/swglist.html

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 14:24:03 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

Does it still have leaves at the crown? ~ jan

Not sure I understand this. I am presently growing the plants in
tropical aquariums, and they are doing well. I am thinking to add
them to the pond and want to know how warm the water must be before I
do that. The pond has been running about 56F lately, but cold could
still come to visit. I don't remember if I mentioned it, these plants
are sold as dry tubers in the Wal-Mark aquarium section, they hang on
pegs with the artificial plants. They are also selling dry aponegeton
tubers.


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- Charles
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-does not play well with others