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55 gal. drum bead filter
Looking for a howto turn my two 55 gal. drum into bead filters ?
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55 gal. drum bead filter
Not sure, but I thought bead filters were sealed and operated under
pressure - if so I dont think you can Gale :~) Looking for a howto turn my two 55 gal. drum into bead filters ? |
55 gal. drum bead filter
The plastic drum are seal for the most part. Any suggestion for
alternative to bead ? |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Plastic screening above a milk crate, upflow. Easy to clean.
Jim -- ______________________________________________ See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per child) at: jogathon.net ______________________________________________ "Drew Cutter" wrote in message ... Looking for a howto turn my two 55 gal. drum into bead filters ? |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Plastic screening above a milk crate, upflow. Easy to clean.
Jim -- ______________________________________________ See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per child) at: jogathon.net ______________________________________________ "Drew Cutter" wrote in message ... Looking for a howto turn my two 55 gal. drum into bead filters ? |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Plastic screening above a milk crate, upflow. Easy to clean.
I did find DIY bead filter web page. Looks like a winner . Except for the right type of beads. Suggestion best beads ? |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Plastic screening above a milk crate, upflow. Easy to clean.
I did find DIY bead filter web page. Looks like a winner . Except for the right type of beads. Suggestion best beads ? |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Plastic screening above a milk crate, upflow. Easy to clean.
I did find DIY bead filter web page. Looks like a winner . Except for the right type of beads. Suggestion best beads ? |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Plastic screening above a milk crate, upflow. Easy to clean.
I did find DIY bead filter web page. Looks like a winner . Except for the right type of beads. Suggestion best beads ? |
55 gal. drum bead filter
On 3/21/04 6:33 PM, "Drew Cutter" wrote:
I did find DIY bead filter web page. So, what is the link? Joe -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
55 gal. drum bead filter
On 3/21/04 6:33 PM, "Drew Cutter" wrote:
I did find DIY bead filter web page. So, what is the link? Joe -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
55 gal. drum bead filter
On 3/21/04 6:33 PM, "Drew Cutter" wrote:
I did find DIY bead filter web page. So, what is the link? Joe -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
55 gal. drum bead filter
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55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
http://home.netcom.com/~larry_l/diy_bead.htm Drew Did you see the vertical version of larrys filter http://tinyurl.com/24egq chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
http://home.netcom.com/~larry_l/diy_bead.htm Drew Did you see the vertical version of larrys filter http://tinyurl.com/24egq chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
I did not see it. But , I love it .
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55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew
Did you see the vertical version of larrys filter http://tinyurl.com/24egq chagoi Where would I locate air back wash or do i need it ? |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew
Did you see the vertical version of larrys filter http://tinyurl.com/24egq chagoi Where would I locate air back wash or do i need it ? |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
I wish the upright diagram of DIY bead filter would of label the bottom left outlet (the one the sealed) . Its functions ? that is the outlet from the filter, the creator of the filter seem to have assembled it wrong. Floow the hand written diagram. The simplest solution seems to be to replace the top tee fitting with a cross fitting. What do you fill the insides with ? How much Kaldnes , etc . Is Kaldnes the right material ? Fill the barrel 1/2 to 1/3 full of the bio-media. What is the material wrap around the top and bottom tube (with security straps) ? nylon window screening Thanks. Is their a list of sizes and type of fitting needed (parts list ) No! That posting was from Aug. 2001 ? I'm going to take trip out to lowes to see if they have the parts. appears to be 2" Chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
I wish the upright diagram of DIY bead filter would of label the bottom left outlet (the one the sealed) . Its functions ? that is the outlet from the filter, the creator of the filter seem to have assembled it wrong. Floow the hand written diagram. The simplest solution seems to be to replace the top tee fitting with a cross fitting. What do you fill the insides with ? How much Kaldnes , etc . Is Kaldnes the right material ? Fill the barrel 1/2 to 1/3 full of the bio-media. What is the material wrap around the top and bottom tube (with security straps) ? nylon window screening Thanks. Is their a list of sizes and type of fitting needed (parts list ) No! That posting was from Aug. 2001 ? I'm going to take trip out to lowes to see if they have the parts. appears to be 2" Chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
I wish the upright diagram of DIY bead filter would of label the bottom left outlet (the one the sealed) . Its functions ? that is the outlet from the filter, the creator of the filter seem to have assembled it wrong. Floow the hand written diagram. The simplest solution seems to be to replace the top tee fitting with a cross fitting. What do you fill the insides with ? How much Kaldnes , etc . Is Kaldnes the right material ? Fill the barrel 1/2 to 1/3 full of the bio-media. What is the material wrap around the top and bottom tube (with security straps) ? nylon window screening Thanks. Is their a list of sizes and type of fitting needed (parts list ) No! That posting was from Aug. 2001 ? I'm going to take trip out to lowes to see if they have the parts. appears to be 2" Chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
I wish the upright diagram of DIY bead filter would of label the bottom left outlet (the one the sealed) . Its functions ? WOOPS!! forgot this http://www.koi.com.my/ubbimages/ppdia.jpg The above diagram shows the working principle of bead filter. 1. For normal filter operation, turn valve F to on position. Close all other valves. For bead filter, water enters through the bottom and come out from top of drum. Please note this ( Top Photo shows the version water enter from the top and discharge at the bottom. ) 2. To backwash turn valve B to on position, off all other valves. Duration 2 to 3 mins 3. To rinse turn valve F near inlet and valve R to on, turn all other valves off. (Duration 30 seconds) It seems that either version will work, just that the photo version requires more complicated valve combinations. Chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
I wish the upright diagram of DIY bead filter would of label the bottom left outlet (the one the sealed) . Its functions ? WOOPS!! forgot this http://www.koi.com.my/ubbimages/ppdia.jpg The above diagram shows the working principle of bead filter. 1. For normal filter operation, turn valve F to on position. Close all other valves. For bead filter, water enters through the bottom and come out from top of drum. Please note this ( Top Photo shows the version water enter from the top and discharge at the bottom. ) 2. To backwash turn valve B to on position, off all other valves. Duration 2 to 3 mins 3. To rinse turn valve F near inlet and valve R to on, turn all other valves off. (Duration 30 seconds) It seems that either version will work, just that the photo version requires more complicated valve combinations. Chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
I wish the upright diagram of DIY bead filter would of label the bottom left outlet (the one the sealed) . Its functions ? WOOPS!! forgot this http://www.koi.com.my/ubbimages/ppdia.jpg The above diagram shows the working principle of bead filter. 1. For normal filter operation, turn valve F to on position. Close all other valves. For bead filter, water enters through the bottom and come out from top of drum. Please note this ( Top Photo shows the version water enter from the top and discharge at the bottom. ) 2. To backwash turn valve B to on position, off all other valves. Duration 2 to 3 mins 3. To rinse turn valve F near inlet and valve R to on, turn all other valves off. (Duration 30 seconds) It seems that either version will work, just that the photo version requires more complicated valve combinations. Chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
I wish the upright diagram of DIY bead filter would of label the bottom left outlet (the one the sealed) . Its functions ? WOOPS!! forgot this http://www.koi.com.my/ubbimages/ppdia.jpg The above diagram shows the working principle of bead filter. 1. For normal filter operation, turn valve F to on position. Close all other valves. For bead filter, water enters through the bottom and come out from top of drum. Please note this ( Top Photo shows the version water enter from the top and discharge at the bottom. ) 2. To backwash turn valve B to on position, off all other valves. Duration 2 to 3 mins 3. To rinse turn valve F near inlet and valve R to on, turn all other valves off. (Duration 30 seconds) It seems that either version will work, just that the photo version requires more complicated valve combinations. Chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
I wish the upright diagram of DIY bead filter would of label the bottom left outlet (the one the sealed) . Its functions ? WOOPS!! forgot this http://www.koi.com.my/ubbimages/ppdia.jpg The above diagram shows the working principle of bead filter. 1. For normal filter operation, turn valve F to on position. Close all other valves. For bead filter, water enters through the bottom and come out from top of drum. Please note this ( Top Photo shows the version water enter from the top and discharge at the bottom. ) 2. To backwash turn valve B to on position, off all other valves. Duration 2 to 3 mins 3. To rinse turn valve F near inlet and valve R to on, turn all other valves off. (Duration 30 seconds) It seems that either version will work, just that the photo version requires more complicated valve combinations. Chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
I wish the upright diagram of DIY bead filter would of label the bottom left outlet (the one the sealed) . Its functions ? WOOPS!! forgot this http://www.koi.com.my/ubbimages/ppdia.jpg The above diagram shows the working principle of bead filter. 1. For normal filter operation, turn valve F to on position. Close all other valves. For bead filter, water enters through the bottom and come out from top of drum. Please note this ( Top Photo shows the version water enter from the top and discharge at the bottom. ) 2. To backwash turn valve B to on position, off all other valves. Duration 2 to 3 mins 3. To rinse turn valve F near inlet and valve R to on, turn all other valves off. (Duration 30 seconds) It seems that either version will work, just that the photo version requires more complicated valve combinations. Chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
If I add a skimmer to my pond would I use the bead filter for waste
(leafs) ? Do I add an outlet to have the water flow to my waterfall ? Do I have to add a pump to get water to flow to waterfall (pump -- bead filter -- waterfall). |
55 gal. drum bead filter
If I add a skimmer to my pond would I use the bead filter for waste
(leafs) ? Do I add an outlet to have the water flow to my waterfall ? Do I have to add a pump to get water to flow to waterfall (pump -- bead filter -- waterfall). |
55 gal. drum bead filter
If I add a skimmer to my pond would I use the bead filter for waste
(leafs) ? Do I add an outlet to have the water flow to my waterfall ? Do I have to add a pump to get water to flow to waterfall (pump -- bead filter -- waterfall). |
55 gal. drum bead filter
"Drew Cutter" wrote in message
... Looking for a howto turn my two 55 gal. drum into bead filters ? Drew In following some of the threads you've started lately, I get the feeling that you're new to managing a pond. I suggest that perhaps before building the ultimate filter system, you let it run on autopilot for a season, it will give you an idea of what you're dealing with. For the first season just take a drum, toss floor buffing pads, or nylon screening material, add lots of water lilies and water hyacinths. That will give you an idea of what needs to be added, plus it will give you some time to learn from other ponders here. Watch as the weather warms up, people will start complaining about the short comings of their filtering system, make notes of it, and collect ideas for your own pond. That's how I built my filter system. Granted it's not as elaborate as the one you intend to make, but it does a good job for my pond. Sameer |
55 gal. drum bead filter
"Drew Cutter" wrote in message
... Looking for a howto turn my two 55 gal. drum into bead filters ? Drew In following some of the threads you've started lately, I get the feeling that you're new to managing a pond. I suggest that perhaps before building the ultimate filter system, you let it run on autopilot for a season, it will give you an idea of what you're dealing with. For the first season just take a drum, toss floor buffing pads, or nylon screening material, add lots of water lilies and water hyacinths. That will give you an idea of what needs to be added, plus it will give you some time to learn from other ponders here. Watch as the weather warms up, people will start complaining about the short comings of their filtering system, make notes of it, and collect ideas for your own pond. That's how I built my filter system. Granted it's not as elaborate as the one you intend to make, but it does a good job for my pond. Sameer |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew Cutter wrote:
Drew Did you see the vertical version of larrys filter http://tinyurl.com/24egq chagoi Where would I locate air back wash or do i need it ? http://www.keirinponds.com/aquadyne.html best article I've found to explain the increase in efficiency and exactly how it helps increase the efficiency. DEFINITIONS: dictionary compressor A machine for compressing gases; especially, an air compressor. blower (Mech.) A device for producing a current of air; as: (a) A machine for producing an artificial blast or current of air by volume. mine(as a Millright): compressor: High Pressure 60#, Low Volume 15 CFM Cubic feet Per Minute blower: High Volume 20 CFM, Low Pressure 60#. To add a DIY air backwash to your DIY bead filter you would need a DIY air blower like a spa/hottub air blower to make it work. you need a large volume of air to violently mix up the beads to break free the waste material and get it into suspension in the water before washing it out of the filter. Chagoi |
55 gal. drum bead filter
In following some of the threads you've started lately, I get the feeling
that you're new to managing a pond. I suggest that perhaps before building the ultimate filter system, you let it run on autopilot for a season, it will give you an idea of what you're dealing with. For the first season just take a drum, toss floor buffing pads, or nylon screening material, add lots of water lilies and water hyacinths. That will give you an idea of what needs to be added, plus it will give you some time to learn from other ponders here. Watch as the weather warms up, people will start complaining about the short comings of their filtering system, make notes of it, and collect ideas for your own pond. That's how I built my filter system. Granted it's not as elaborate as the one you intend to make, but it does a good job for my pond. Sameer My problem is that the local pond society and where I live. The pond society is full of people who buy and not build filters . Not very willing to build their own filters , ponds ,etc . Even the local expert is not willing to help new people. Has a degree in horticulture and has his own business. I have to find help outside of my area. 50 miles. I do have a friend that has his own nursery (first person willing to help ). He been a life saver. I live in a small valley , where run off is common. In the spring I get 6 inches of sitting water until the french ditch is able to send the water to the front yard. I need a filtration system get rid of excess waste , new rain water quickly and anything else . I've had the pond dug for three years. Trouble finding someone willing to help me finish the pond. |
55 gal. drum bead filter
Drew,
Please go back and read Sameer's response... that was as good as your likely to get. In essence he said to Wait for a season .. then start out slowly. Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Drew Cutter" wrote in message ... In following some of the threads you've started lately, I get the feeling that you're new to managing a pond. I suggest that perhaps before building the ultimate filter system, you let it run on autopilot for a season, it will give you an idea of what you're dealing with. For the first season just take a drum, toss floor buffing pads, or nylon screening material, add lots of water lilies and water hyacinths. That will give you an idea of what needs to be added, plus it will give you some time to learn from other ponders here. Watch as the weather warms up, people will start complaining about the short comings of their filtering system, make notes of it, and collect ideas for your own pond. That's how I built my filter system. Granted it's not as elaborate as the one you intend to make, but it does a good job for my pond. Sameer My problem is that the local pond society and where I live. The pond society is full of people who buy and not build filters . Not very willing to build their own filters , ponds ,etc . Even the local expert is not willing to help new people. Has a degree in horticulture and has his own business. I have to find help outside of my area. 50 miles. I do have a friend that has his own nursery (first person willing to help ). He been a life saver. I live in a small valley , where run off is common. In the spring I get 6 inches of sitting water until the french ditch is able to send the water to the front yard. I need a filtration system get rid of excess waste , new rain water quickly and anything else . I've had the pond dug for three years. Trouble finding someone willing to help me finish the pond. |
55 gal. drum bead filter
I'm going to have to wait till June . Dry season. I don't have time to
wait for a season , the pond is done except for the water fall . I do plan to take it slow on plants. The plumbing and waterfall must be finnish this year. My garage has the material for the waterfall. The garage needs to be clean out or I'm in big trouble. I have professor friends who are more help and more connected then the local pond society . When I'm ready I've got a friend who is a expert on local native plants. I found the local pond society to be of little help. Too many people settle into their retirement years. The one's who could help, got tired of doing all the work. He Refuses to do anymore work to help out with someone ponds. Their is large pond society south of me. Plus I'm tired of empty the pond every time we get a 1" to 2" of rain in short amount time. If all I get done this year is the plumbing and water fall I will be happy. |
55 gal. drum bead filter
I'm going to have to wait till June . Dry season. I don't have time to
wait for a season , the pond is done except for the water fall . I do plan to take it slow on plants. The plumbing and waterfall must be finnish this year. My garage has the material for the waterfall. The garage needs to be clean out or I'm in big trouble. I have professor friends who are more help and more connected then the local pond society . When I'm ready I've got a friend who is a expert on local native plants. I found the local pond society to be of little help. Too many people settle into their retirement years. The one's who could help, got tired of doing all the work. He Refuses to do anymore work to help out with someone ponds. Their is large pond society south of me. Plus I'm tired of empty the pond every time we get a 1" to 2" of rain in short amount time. If all I get done this year is the plumbing and water fall I will be happy. |
55 gal. drum bead filter
I'm going to have to wait till June . Dry season. I don't have time to
wait for a season , the pond is done except for the water fall . I do plan to take it slow on plants. The plumbing and waterfall must be finnish this year. My garage has the material for the waterfall. The garage needs to be clean out or I'm in big trouble. I have professor friends who are more help and more connected then the local pond society . When I'm ready I've got a friend who is a expert on local native plants. I found the local pond society to be of little help. Too many people settle into their retirement years. The one's who could help, got tired of doing all the work. He Refuses to do anymore work to help out with someone ponds. Their is large pond society south of me. Plus I'm tired of empty the pond every time we get a 1" to 2" of rain in short amount time. If all I get done this year is the plumbing and water fall I will be happy. |
55 gal. drum bead filter
I'm going to have to wait till June . Dry season. I don't have time to
wait for a season , the pond is done except for the water fall . I do plan to take it slow on plants. The plumbing and waterfall must be finnish this year. My garage has the material for the waterfall. The garage needs to be clean out or I'm in big trouble. I have professor friends who are more help and more connected then the local pond society . When I'm ready I've got a friend who is a expert on local native plants. I found the local pond society to be of little help. Too many people settle into their retirement years. The one's who could help, got tired of doing all the work. He Refuses to do anymore work to help out with someone ponds. Their is large pond society south of me. Plus I'm tired of empty the pond every time we get a 1" to 2" of rain in short amount time. If all I get done this year is the plumbing and water fall I will be happy. |
55 gal. drum bead filter
"Drew Cutter" wrote in message
... My problem is that the local pond society and where I live. The pond society is full of people who buy and not build filters . Not very willing to build their own filters , ponds ,etc . Even the local expert is not willing to help new people. Has a degree in horticulture and has his own business. I have to find help outside of my area. 50 miles. I do have a friend that has his own nursery (first person willing to help ). He been a life saver. I live in a small valley , where run off is common. In the spring I get 6 inches of sitting water until the french ditch is able to send the water to the front yard. I need a filtration system get rid of excess waste , new rain water quickly and anything else . I've had the pond dug for three years. Trouble finding someone willing to help me finish the pond. Drew I feel for you, but the reality is most people are too busy with their own personal lives to volunteer to assist others with weekend projects. Pond societies just like any other social organization, they're willing to help people they've become friends with. Their desire and willingness to spend the weekend latest guy who wants a hand with his pond is probably minimal because they've done so many times already. In general run off is bad for ponds, run off picks up fertilizers and pesticides, try raising the edge of the pond above ground level so that rain run off does not go into the pond. Consider using drain pipes to move water from the low lying areas into other areas, where water drains better. The goal is to prevent it from getting onto the pond in the first place. All of this takes a lot of time and work, a pond isn't something you can run on auto pilot by building the ultimate pond filter. And even if you could, it just wouldn't be as fun or rewarding. The kind of filter you design has to be built on the situation you are facing. if you have a lot of leaves, dust and stuff being blown into your pond then a 2 drum filter with a settling chamber might be the ticket. If you've got a lot of green water, a veg filter will help clear things up. And if you've got a high fish load, a bio filter is needed. Most of us don't just have a signal filter, we employ multiple filters. One of my favorite ones, was built by someone who has more skill then I ever will. http://community.webshots.com/album/43346868XpvJzF Sameer |
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