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Edward Haworth 29-04-2004 03:19 AM

Help training shy Koi
 
About 6 weeks ago I restocked the pond with some young Koi (~2" mixed
colour mostly but two 4" ghosts as well).

I appreciate that fish usally take a while to become acclimatised to a
new home but they have been constantly hiding, mostly grouped together
underneatha patch where the liner overhangs. They ignore all food
(there is plenty of crap on the bottom for them to eat a this time of
year though). By this point, late spring, I'd have expected them to
start coming out of their shells a bit and maybe taking the odd food
stick.

Does anyone have any advice as to how I could help calm them down a
bit (they are in no danger from predators, its a steep walled central
London pond so no Herons/Kingfishers etc.). Water lilies are just
starting to open and I imagine these will help.

I'm not worried aobut their health, they seem well and active when
spooked.

Cheers,
Ed

BenignVanilla 29-04-2004 06:03 AM

Help training shy Koi
 

"Edward Haworth" wrote in message
...
About 6 weeks ago I restocked the pond with some young Koi (~2" mixed
colour mostly but two 4" ghosts as well).

I appreciate that fish usally take a while to become acclimatised to a
new home but they have been constantly hiding, mostly grouped together
underneatha patch where the liner overhangs. They ignore all food
(there is plenty of crap on the bottom for them to eat a this time of
year though). By this point, late spring, I'd have expected them to
start coming out of their shells a bit and maybe taking the odd food
stick.

Does anyone have any advice as to how I could help calm them down a
bit (they are in no danger from predators, its a steep walled central
London pond so no Herons/Kingfishers etc.). Water lilies are just
starting to open and I imagine these will help.

I'm not worried aobut their health, they seem well and active when
spooked.


Patience young padawon. Sit by the pond, and let them see you. It helps to
drink a beer or two whilst you do this.

BV.



Just Me \Koi\ 29-04-2004 07:03 AM

Help training shy Koi
 
Especially Guinness Stout!

--
_______________________________________
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like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

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"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
...

"Edward Haworth" wrote in message
...
About 6 weeks ago I restocked the pond with some young Koi (~2" mixed
colour mostly but two 4" ghosts as well).

I appreciate that fish usally take a while to become acclimatised to a
new home but they have been constantly hiding, mostly grouped together
underneatha patch where the liner overhangs. They ignore all food
(there is plenty of crap on the bottom for them to eat a this time of
year though). By this point, late spring, I'd have expected them to
start coming out of their shells a bit and maybe taking the odd food
stick.

Does anyone have any advice as to how I could help calm them down a
bit (they are in no danger from predators, its a steep walled central
London pond so no Herons/Kingfishers etc.). Water lilies are just
starting to open and I imagine these will help.

I'm not worried aobut their health, they seem well and active when
spooked.


Patience young padawon. Sit by the pond, and let them see you. It helps to
drink a beer or two whilst you do this.

BV.





Happy'Cam'per 29-04-2004 01:04 PM

Help training shy Koi
 
"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
.. .
Especially Guinness Stout!


LOL...Alcoholic Koi Keepers.
FWIW, Guinness is especially good for vegetarians and ladies on their period
as it contains a high count of iron!
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**




Steve and Lisa 29-04-2004 01:06 PM

Help training shy Koi
 
For hubby it's New Castle Brown ...and he actually does drink it by the pond
in a pint glass (bought some for him at World market that are the real
thing). If he can't find Newkie Brown ......then he'll settle for
Boddingtons in the can with a widget or a Fosters Bitter. ;) True Englishmen
love their lager. (I prefer a Shandy myself or a glass of Sangria.)

Lisa

ps....we do have two new tiny butterfly koi that stick together and don't
seem to enjoy eating with the other 4 fish we have. :(



Edward Haworth 29-04-2004 05:10 PM

Help training shy Koi
 
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:34:01 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

Patience young padawon. Sit by the pond, and let them see you. It helps to
drink a beer or two whilst you do this.

BV.



Thanks - I'll try and be more patient. The weather is just getting to
the point where I can indeed drink a few beers by the pond (not the
last few days though!).
Ed

Benign Vanilla 29-04-2004 05:11 PM

Help training shy Koi
 
Xref: kermit rec.ponds:144890


"Edward Haworth" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:34:01 -0400, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

Patience young padawon. Sit by the pond, and let them see you. It helps

to
drink a beer or two whilst you do this.

BV.



Thanks - I'll try and be more patient. The weather is just getting to
the point where I can indeed drink a few beers by the pond (not the
last few days though!).


I have learned over the past year or so the only thing that is more
important then water in your pond, is patience in the ponder.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com




joe 29-04-2004 06:04 PM

Help training shy Koi
 
Oh good, drunken, vegan, women on their period.

Joe

On 4/29/04 4:33 AM, "Happy'Cam'per" wrote:

FWIW, Guinness is especially good for vegetarians and ladies on their period
as it contains a high count of iron!




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Benign Vanilla 29-04-2004 07:04 PM

Help training shy Koi
 

"joe" wrote in message
...
Oh good, drunken, vegan, women on their period.


SOMLOL.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com




~ jan JJsPond.us 30-04-2004 04:07 PM

Help training shy Koi
 
NUMBER ONE RULE OF PONDING:

#1 Whenever fish, new or old, are acting in a way you don't approve
(nagging uncomfortable feeling on your part) Check your water quality,
ammonia, nitrite, pH, KH & nitrate. Then report here.

Now if I could only teach BV to paste that, along with his patience quote
(which is the #2 rule), I'd be a happy rec.ponder. ;o) ~ jan


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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 02:42:17 +0100, Edward Haworth wrote:


About 6 weeks ago I restocked the pond with some young Koi (~2" mixed
colour mostly but two 4" ghosts as well).

I appreciate that fish usally take a while to become acclimatised to a
new home but they have been constantly hiding, mostly grouped together
underneatha patch where the liner overhangs. They ignore all food
(there is plenty of crap on the bottom for them to eat a this time of
year though). By this point, late spring, I'd have expected them to
start coming out of their shells a bit and maybe taking the odd food
stick.

Does anyone have any advice as to how I could help calm them down a
bit (they are in no danger from predators, its a steep walled central
London pond so no Herons/Kingfishers etc.). Water lilies are just
starting to open and I imagine these will help.

I'm not worried aobut their health, they seem well and active when
spooked.

Cheers,
Ed



Benign Vanilla 30-04-2004 04:07 PM

Help training shy Koi
 

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
s.com...
NUMBER ONE RULE OF PONDING:

#1 Whenever fish, new or old, are acting in a way you don't approve
(nagging uncomfortable feeling on your part) Check your water quality,
ammonia, nitrite, pH, KH & nitrate. Then report here.

Now if I could only teach BV to paste that, along with his patience quote
(which is the #2 rule), I'd be a happy rec.ponder. ;o) ~ jan


ooh...I love lists...let's keep this thread alive...

1. Whenever fish, new or old, are acting in a way you don't approve (nagging
uncomfortable feeling on your part) Check your water quality, ammonia,
nitrite, pH, KH & nitrate. Then report here.

2. The only thing more important then water in the pond, is patience in the
ponder. Most problems can be solved by just sitting patiently and letting
nature take control. This rule is invalid unless rule #1 has been observed.

3. Algae are not bad.




Just Me \Koi\ 30-04-2004 05:04 PM

Help training shy Koi
 
So since I am a meat eating man where does that live me in my relationship
with Guinness?

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"Happy'Cam'per" wrote in message
...
"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
.. .
Especially Guinness Stout!


LOL...Alcoholic Koi Keepers.
FWIW, Guinness is especially good for vegetarians and ladies on their

period
as it contains a high count of iron!
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**






Just Me \Koi\ 30-04-2004 05:05 PM

Help training shy Koi
 
You left off the beer in the hand! That's the most critical part of
patience Dude!

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
s.com...
NUMBER ONE RULE OF PONDING:

#1 Whenever fish, new or old, are acting in a way you don't approve
(nagging uncomfortable feeling on your part) Check your water quality,
ammonia, nitrite, pH, KH & nitrate. Then report here.

Now if I could only teach BV to paste that, along with his patience

quote
(which is the #2 rule), I'd be a happy rec.ponder. ;o) ~ jan


ooh...I love lists...let's keep this thread alive...

1. Whenever fish, new or old, are acting in a way you don't approve

(nagging
uncomfortable feeling on your part) Check your water quality, ammonia,
nitrite, pH, KH & nitrate. Then report here.

2. The only thing more important then water in the pond, is patience in

the
ponder. Most problems can be solved by just sitting patiently and letting
nature take control. This rule is invalid unless rule #1 has been

observed.

3. Algae are not bad.






Benign Vanilla 30-04-2004 05:05 PM

Help training shy Koi
 

"Just Me "Koi"" wrote in message
...
So since I am a meat eating man where does that live me in my relationship
with Guinness?

snip

A perfect basis for us to get together if you are ever in the Baltimore
area. :)

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com




joe 30-04-2004 06:05 PM

Help training shy Koi
 
I think we should have the "Million Man Beer March"

Joe

On 4/30/04 8:25 AM, "Just Me "Koi"" wrote:

So since I am a meat eating man where does that live me in my relationship
with Guinness?




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