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10-05-2004, 11:10 PM
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big tadpoles died this morning
This morning about 9:00 I went out to check the pond & feed the fish,
everything looked good. About 10:30 I glanced out the window and saw a couple of what I thought were dead fish floating, so rushed out and found two tadpoles floating heads up, tails down. They were about 3-4 inches long, with small back legs and no front ones, though one of them had small nodules where the front legs would have formed. Their "faces" were coated in a whitish material, and they weren't moving at all. I examined them and added them to the compost pile. Immediately checked the water quality, everything was "normal" to "ideal". Water temp is a bit higher than I'd like, running about 76-78 Fahrenheit. Not much I can do about it. Hoping the water hyacinth will help shade it when it grows a bit more. About 2 hours later, a third dead tad showed up, same story, only it looked like the skin on his "face" & head had been stripped off somehow. Eyes whited over like the others. Very odd. The fish seem to be fine, hanging around under the water hyacinth, nibbling at the roots, chasing each other around a bit, etc. they'll come up to feed when I toss pellets in, none seem to be discolored or anything untoward. Any suggestions from the group? Are tads subject to "ich"? That's what it looked like more than anything else in my experience. TIA Mike Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. |
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10-05-2004, 11:10 PM
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Mike Patterson wrote:
This morning about 9:00 I went out to check the pond & feed the fish, everything looked good. About 10:30 I glanced out the window and saw a couple of what I thought were dead fish floating, so rushed out and found two tadpoles floating heads up, tails down. They were about 3-4 inches long, with small back legs and no front ones, though one of them had small nodules where the front legs would have formed. Their "faces" were coated in a whitish material, and they weren't moving at all. I examined them and added them to the compost pile. Immediately checked the water quality, everything was "normal" to "ideal". Water temp is a bit higher than I'd like, running about 76-78 Fahrenheit. Not much I can do about it. Hoping the water hyacinth will help shade it when it grows a bit more. About 2 hours later, a third dead tad showed up, same story, only it looked like the skin on his "face" & head had been stripped off somehow. Eyes whited over like the others. Very odd. The fish seem to be fine, hanging around under the water hyacinth, nibbling at the roots, chasing each other around a bit, etc. they'll come up to feed when I toss pellets in, none seem to be discolored or anything untoward. Any suggestions from the group? Are tads subject to "ich"? That's what it looked like more than anything else in my experience. TIA Mike Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Doesn't sound a bit like ick -- that's usually small white spots, like salt grains. Sounds an awful lot like Columnaris. Check it against some pictures on the web, and if it matches, start antibiotic treatment ASAP -- your fish are next. |
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11-05-2004, 12:07 AM
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As a whole frogs and tadpoles are more sensitive to poor water conditions and anything that may show up via wind drift, birdy business, runoff, etc. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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11-05-2004, 02:09 AM
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big tadpoles died this morning
could there be something trying to eat the taddies, like dragonfly larvae and once
wounded they die and get fuzzed over? Ingrid EROSPAM (Ka30P) wrote: As a whole frogs and tadpoles are more sensitive to poor water conditions and anything that may show up via wind drift, birdy business, runoff, etc. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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11-05-2004, 03:08 AM
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If not dragonfly nymphs then the great diving beetle or water bug, Either of those could take down a three inch tadpole. Bug would suck out tasty taddy parts, beetle would chew it up. Either one may have lost hold of its prey. And they fly and may have arrived at your pond via air freight. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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11-05-2004, 03:09 PM
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11-05-2004, 04:18 PM
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Another consideration: DEADLY DISEASE A disease might also cause the mutations. The disease is carried and spread by a tiny worm. The worm is a parasite, a plant or animal that lives off of other creatures. If a worm enters a frog's body, it can give the disease to the frog. The disease causes extra or missing limbs in the frog's young. The disease-carrying worm seems to be spreading. As the worm moves into new lakes and ponds, it brings the disease with it. That means more frogs can catch it. Frogs are not the only creatures that can catch the disease. Some other amphibians, including toads and salamanders, can get it as well. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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11-05-2004, 05:13 PM
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big tadpoles died this morning
Perhaps Chytrid fungus. See http://www.fishpondinfo.com/frog3.htm#die under Chytrid fungus and do internet searches. On Mon, 10 May 2004, Mike Patterson wrote: This morning about 9:00 I went out to check the pond & feed the fish, everything looked good. About 10:30 I glanced out the window and saw a couple of what I thought were dead fish floating, so rushed out and found two tadpoles floating heads up, tails down. They were about 3-4 inches long, with small back legs and no front ones, though one of them had small nodules where the front legs would have formed. Their "faces" were coated in a whitish material, and they weren't moving at all. I examined them and added them to the compost pile. Immediately checked the water quality, everything was "normal" to "ideal". Water temp is a bit higher than I'd like, running about 76-78 Fahrenheit. Not much I can do about it. Hoping the water hyacinth will help shade it when it grows a bit more. About 2 hours later, a third dead tad showed up, same story, only it looked like the skin on his "face" & head had been stripped off somehow. Eyes whited over like the others. Very odd. The fish seem to be fine, hanging around under the water hyacinth, nibbling at the roots, chasing each other around a bit, etc. they'll come up to feed when I toss pellets in, none seem to be discolored or anything untoward. Any suggestions from the group? Are tads subject to "ich"? That's what it looked like more than anything else in my experience. TIA Mike Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Important Notice! Robyn's web site has moved from http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rrhudy1/ to http://www.fishpondinfo.com. This e-mail as well as the old site (which refers to the new site) will be deleted on 9/24/04 by UMBC (I have no say in it). After that date, please use the e-mail of instead of this e-mail. Please spread the word that my site has moved. Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Chemist, preservationist, animal lover, aquarist, and ponder. - Extensive web pages on animals, fish, and ponds. - http://www.fishpondinfo.com Free pond newsletter - sign up at my web site - Finally! Buy Robyn's Pond Book at www.1stbooks.com - ----------------------------------------------------------------- |
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11-05-2004, 08:15 PM
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Wow, that's some nasty stuff.
So far this looks most like what I'm seeing, the skin being dead and sloughing off near the mouth and underbelly. Apparently there is no recommended treatment, or at least I haven't found any yet. I've sent an email to the state Wildlife people, hopefully they'll respond. Thanks to everyone for the info. Mike On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:47:24 -0400, Robyn Rhudy wrote: Perhaps Chytrid fungus. See http://www.fishpondinfo.com/frog3.htm#die under Chytrid fungus and do internet searches. On Mon, 10 May 2004, Mike Patterson wrote: This morning about 9:00 I went out to check the pond & feed the fish, everything looked good. About 10:30 I glanced out the window and saw a couple of what I thought were dead fish floating, so rushed out and found two tadpoles floating heads up, tails down. They were about 3-4 inches long, with small back legs and no front ones, though one of them had small nodules where the front legs would have formed. Their "faces" were coated in a whitish material, and they weren't moving at all. I examined them and added them to the compost pile. Immediately checked the water quality, everything was "normal" to "ideal". Water temp is a bit higher than I'd like, running about 76-78 Fahrenheit. Not much I can do about it. Hoping the water hyacinth will help shade it when it grows a bit more. About 2 hours later, a third dead tad showed up, same story, only it looked like the skin on his "face" & head had been stripped off somehow. Eyes whited over like the others. Very odd. The fish seem to be fine, hanging around under the water hyacinth, nibbling at the roots, chasing each other around a bit, etc. they'll come up to feed when I toss pellets in, none seem to be discolored or anything untoward. Any suggestions from the group? Are tads subject to "ich"? That's what it looked like more than anything else in my experience. TIA Mike Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Important Notice! Robyn's web site has moved from http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rrhudy1/ to http://www.fishpondinfo.com. This e-mail as well as the old site (which refers to the new site) will be deleted on 9/24/04 by UMBC (I have no say in it). After that date, please use the e-mail of instead of this e-mail. Please spread the word that my site has moved. Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Chemist, preservationist, animal lover, aquarist, and ponder. - Extensive web pages on animals, fish, and ponds. - http://www.fishpondinfo.com Free pond newsletter - sign up at my web site - Finally! Buy Robyn's Pond Book at www.1stbooks.com - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. |
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12-05-2004, 01:05 AM
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Mike wrote I've sent an email to the state Wildlife people, hopefully they'll respond. Let us know what happens! kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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#12
13-05-2004, 06:08 AM
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You don't by any chance have koi or something that is trying to eat them? A
facial kiss could start damage that would lead to fungus. Jim -- ____________________________________________ See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley Ask me about Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $120+ per child) at: jogathon.net "Mike Patterson" wrote in message ... This morning about 9:00 I went out to check the pond & feed the fish, everything looked good. About 10:30 I glanced out the window and saw a couple of what I thought were dead fish floating, so rushed out and found two tadpoles floating heads up, tails down. They were about 3-4 inches long, with small back legs and no front ones, though one of them had small nodules where the front legs would have formed. Their "faces" were coated in a whitish material, and they weren't moving at all. I examined them and added them to the compost pile. Immediately checked the water quality, everything was "normal" to "ideal". Water temp is a bit higher than I'd like, running about 76-78 Fahrenheit. Not much I can do about it. Hoping the water hyacinth will help shade it when it grows a bit more. About 2 hours later, a third dead tad showed up, same story, only it looked like the skin on his "face" & head had been stripped off somehow. Eyes whited over like the others. Very odd. The fish seem to be fine, hanging around under the water hyacinth, nibbling at the roots, chasing each other around a bit, etc. they'll come up to feed when I toss pellets in, none seem to be discolored or anything untoward. Any suggestions from the group? Are tads subject to "ich"? That's what it looked like more than anything else in my experience. TIA Mike Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. |
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13-05-2004, 03:05 PM
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:15:45 -0500, "Jim and Phyllis Hurley"
wrote: You don't by any chance have koi or something that is trying to eat them? A facial kiss could start damage that would lead to fungus. Jim I have about 8 goldfish and 6 or 7 shiners - "type unknown" in there, so it's possible. Yesterday evening I treated the pond with an anti-fungal I bought at the local nursery. If there are any tads left, maybe that'll help. I figured it might help, and wasn't likely to hurt. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. |
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