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Mike Miller 05-08-2004 02:20 AM

how long to cure liner splice?
 
I'm about to splice 2 liners together - my old one and a new addition - but
I'm wondering how long the silicone, tape and liner prep should cure before
allowing the fish's water to touch it. Ideas?



BenignVanilla 05-08-2004 02:52 AM

how long to cure liner splice?
 

"Mike Miller" wrote in message
news:6XfQc.205814$a24.63140@attbi_s03...
I'm about to splice 2 liners together - my old one and a new addition -

but
I'm wondering how long the silicone, tape and liner prep should cure

before
allowing the fish's water to touch it. Ideas?


At least as long the manufacturer recommends. I let my stream run before the
24 hours that the seam tape manufacturer recommended. I have a leak to this
day.

BV.



BenignVanilla 05-08-2004 02:52 AM

how long to cure liner splice?
 

"Mike Miller" wrote in message
news:6XfQc.205814$a24.63140@attbi_s03...
I'm about to splice 2 liners together - my old one and a new addition -

but
I'm wondering how long the silicone, tape and liner prep should cure

before
allowing the fish's water to touch it. Ideas?


At least as long the manufacturer recommends. I let my stream run before the
24 hours that the seam tape manufacturer recommended. I have a leak to this
day.

BV.



Mike Miller 05-08-2004 03:39 PM

how long to cure liner splice?
 
I bought the parts separate, not as a kit, and it doesn't say. I was
thinking more about the health of my fish, but you have a good point.

"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
...

"Mike Miller" wrote in message
news:6XfQc.205814$a24.63140@attbi_s03...
I'm about to splice 2 liners together - my old one and a new addition -

but
I'm wondering how long the silicone, tape and liner prep should cure

before
allowing the fish's water to touch it. Ideas?


At least as long the manufacturer recommends. I let my stream run before

the
24 hours that the seam tape manufacturer recommended. I have a leak to

this
day.

BV.





Gabrielle 10-08-2004 05:15 AM

how long to cure liner splice?
 

I'm about to splice 2 liners together - my old one and a new addition - but I'm wondering how long the silicone, tape and liner prep should cure before allowing the fish's water to touch it. Ideas?



At least as long the manufacturer recommends. I let my stream run before the 24 hours that the seam tape manufacturer recommended. I have a leak to this day.

BV.



Now you tell me! I just finished reseaming the liner from my little
veggie filter to the stream. Only let it cure... oh, maybe five minutes
the first time. This time I gave it three hours, then covered the seam
with another layer of adhesive with a strip of liner on top of that,
then taped it all down with black plastic tape. So far, no noticeable
leaks -- except where the stream overflowed on the sides and that is
fixed. Of course, it's only been 36 hours . . .

Gabrielle, wishing she'd really read the directions


Gabrielle 10-08-2004 05:15 AM


I'm about to splice 2 liners together - my old one and a new addition - but I'm wondering how long the silicone, tape and liner prep should cure before allowing the fish's water to touch it. Ideas?



At least as long the manufacturer recommends. I let my stream run before the 24 hours that the seam tape manufacturer recommended. I have a leak to this day.

BV.



Now you tell me! I just finished reseaming the liner from my little
veggie filter to the stream. Only let it cure... oh, maybe five minutes
the first time. This time I gave it three hours, then covered the seam
with another layer of adhesive with a strip of liner on top of that,
then taped it all down with black plastic tape. So far, no noticeable
leaks -- except where the stream overflowed on the sides and that is
fixed. Of course, it's only been 36 hours . . .

Gabrielle, wishing she'd really read the directions


Crashj 10-08-2004 02:49 PM

how long to cure liner splice?
 
"Gabrielle" wrote in message
...
BV SAID:
At least as long the manufacturer recommends.
I let my stream run before the 24 hours that the seam tape manufacturer

recommended.
I have a leak to this day.


Now you tell me! I just finished reseaming the liner from my little
veggie filter to the stream. Only let it cure... oh, maybe five minutes
the first time. This time I gave it three hours, then covered the seam
with another layer of adhesive with a strip of liner on top of that,
then taped it all down with black plastic tape. So far, no noticeable
leaks -- except where the stream overflowed on the sides and that is
fixed. Of course, it's only been 36 hours . . .


Question: what are you using for an adhesive? Is this a glue or seam sealing
tape? Most silicone rubber in a tube is a sealer and glues things together
more by coincidence that design. Also, all the protection you provide
prevents evaporation of the solvents in other materials and inhibits cure.
Silicones expect some moisture from the air to cure fully, too. Tape
adhesives just need some time to lock onto the substrate roughness.
--
Crashj



Gabrielle 12-08-2004 08:18 PM


Now you tell me! I just finished reseaming the liner from my little
veggie filter to the stream. Only let it cure... oh, maybe five minutes
the first time. This time I gave it three hours, then covered the seam
with another layer of adhesive with a strip of liner on top of that,
then taped it all down with black plastic tape. So far, no noticeable
leaks -- except where the stream overflowed on the sides and that is
fixed. Of course, it's only been 36 hours . . .



Question: what are you using for an adhesive? Is this a glue or seam sealing
tape? Most silicone rubber in a tube is a sealer and glues things together
more by coincidence that design. Also, all the protection you provide
prevents evaporation of the solvents in other materials and inhibits cure.
Silicones expect some moisture from the air to cure fully, too. Tape
adhesives just need some time to lock onto the substrate roughness.

It's a tape adhesive -- the kind you peel the backing off of.
Considering it was 110F and rather dry here in the desert, maybe the
three hours it got was enough. I'll just have to hope. If it wasn't and
it starts to leak, I'll just have to do it over and do it right. I have
now read the directions thoroughly.



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