Barley straw question
 

We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is clearing a
bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make the
suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to grab.
Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about killing
the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The LFS has
bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

Barley straw question
 

bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.

Yup, it does indeed! Dark tea brown too!
been there, did that.....still trying to get the water to clear up :(

Barley straw question
 

"Granny Grump" wrote in message
...

bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.

Yup, it does indeed! Dark tea brown too!
been there, did that.....still trying to get the water to clear up :(

Same here.. I think I prefer the dark tea brown to the green though.. ;)


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Barley straw question
 

try adding a layer or 2 of quilt batting to the final stage of your filter
before the water returns to the pond. it will catch an awful lot of greenies.
you may need to replace it once as it will get clogged quickly.

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Barley straw question
 

try adding a layer or 2 of quilt batting to the final stage of your filter
before the water returns to the pond. it will catch an awful lot of greenies.
you may need to replace it once as it will get clogged quickly.

Taking out the plants is a pain :(
LOL
Reckon brown water will do for this year...will add batting next
spring and start fresh.

try adding a layer or 2 of quilt batting to the final stage of your filter
before the water returns to the pond. it will catch an awful lot of greenies.
you may need to replace it once as it will get clogged quickly.

Taking out the plants is a pain :(
LOL
Reckon brown water will do for this year...will add batting next
spring and start fresh.

Barley straw question
 

YUP have been doing that...luckily have a "huge" roll (4'x?lots) especially
since it needs to be changed around every 2 days(6 squares 12"x15"). Hmm
think I prefer brown to green to if the clarity improves. May have to work
on the SO's sense of adventure.

Elaine
"Granny Grump" wrote in message
...

try adding a layer or 2 of quilt batting to the final stage of your
filter
before the water returns to the pond. it will catch an awful lot of
greenies.
you may need to replace it once as it will get clogged quickly.

Taking out the plants is a pain :(
LOL
Reckon brown water will do for this year...will add batting next
spring and start fresh.

Granny Grump wrote in message . ..

Reckon brown water will do for this year...will add batting next
spring and start fresh.


This was posted last year.

"Plaster of Paris mixed, pour in an egg carton. 2 pucks (eggs) per
500 gallons of water.....
Magnesium and calcium, ok for fish and it removes tannins from
water....
Doing this for 3 years, works great....."

I just kept it, but never tried it. If you try it let me know if it
works.

You can see my "Rippling Waters" Pond at
http://community.webshots.com/user/aspenjd

Sue W
Brooksville, FL

Barley straw question
 

Granny Grump wrote in message . ..

Reckon brown water will do for this year...will add batting next
spring and start fresh.


This was posted last year.

"Plaster of Paris mixed, pour in an egg carton. 2 pucks (eggs) per
500 gallons of water.....
Magnesium and calcium, ok for fish and it removes tannins from
water....
Doing this for 3 years, works great....."

I just kept it, but never tried it. If you try it let me know if it
works.

You can see my "Rippling Waters" Pond at
http://community.webshots.com/user/aspenjd

Sue W
Brooksville, FL

I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I guess
some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put bags of
it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the bags!

Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
. ..
We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is clearing
a
bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make the
suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to grab.
Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about
killing
the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The LFS
has
bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

Dr. John wrote I put bags of
it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the bags!

LOL! Well now, that's just adding insult to
injury!

kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

Barley straw question
 

So did I DJ. Did not do much to clear my water. Even a bunch of folks
at PPWGS here in Springs, swear by it. I am building a veggie filter
this weekend. Nothing to lose except murky water. And even if it does
not clear things up, will be a nice landscaping to the back yard.
Where are you in Colorado?
W. Dale

Doctor John wrote:
I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I guess
some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put bags of
it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the bags!

Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
. ..

We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is clearing

a

bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make the
suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to grab.
Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about

killing

the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The LFS

has

bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

So did I DJ. Did not do much to clear my water. Even a bunch of folks
at PPWGS here in Springs, swear by it. I am building a veggie filter
this weekend. Nothing to lose except murky water. And even if it does
not clear things up, will be a nice landscaping to the back yard.
Where are you in Colorado?
W. Dale

Doctor John wrote:
I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I guess
some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put bags of
it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the bags!

Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
. ..

We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is clearing

a

bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make the
suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to grab.
Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about

killing

the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The LFS

has

bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

I'm in the mountains outside of Fort Collins...

I just don't get this barley straw thing. I've read of many positive
results, and even a couple research papers which indicated it works. My
experience with it has been disappointing, to say the least. It may be that
under very specific circumstances - pH, nutrient level, temperature, level
of string algae infestation, etc. - barely straw will have some effect.
Anyway, I'll never use it again. Anyone want to buy my two bales of barely
straw :-) ??



"news.pcisys.net" wrote in message
...
So did I DJ. Did not do much to clear my water. Even a bunch of folks
at PPWGS here in Springs, swear by it. I am building a veggie filter
this weekend. Nothing to lose except murky water. And even if it does
not clear things up, will be a nice landscaping to the back yard.
Where are you in Colorado?
W. Dale

Doctor John wrote:
I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I guess
some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put bags
of
it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the
bags!

Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
. ..

We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is
clearing

a

bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make
the
suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to
grab.
Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about

killing

the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The LFS

has

bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

I'm in the mountains outside of Fort Collins...

I just don't get this barley straw thing. I've read of many positive
results, and even a couple research papers which indicated it works. My
experience with it has been disappointing, to say the least. It may be that
under very specific circumstances - pH, nutrient level, temperature, level
of string algae infestation, etc. - barely straw will have some effect.
Anyway, I'll never use it again. Anyone want to buy my two bales of barely
straw :-) ??



"news.pcisys.net" wrote in message
...
So did I DJ. Did not do much to clear my water. Even a bunch of folks
at PPWGS here in Springs, swear by it. I am building a veggie filter
this weekend. Nothing to lose except murky water. And even if it does
not clear things up, will be a nice landscaping to the back yard.
Where are you in Colorado?
W. Dale

Doctor John wrote:
I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I guess
some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put bags
of
it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the
bags!

Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
. ..

We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is
clearing

a

bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make
the
suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to
grab.
Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about

killing

the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The LFS

has

bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

Doctor John,

About 40 years ago, I lived in Larimer County also, probably a little
farther up in the mountains at Estes Park. Was back last year for class
reunion. Country is still beautiful, but for a flat lander, the elevation
was a little hard to take.

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"Doctor John" wrote in message
...
I'm in the mountains outside of Fort Collins...

I just don't get this barley straw thing. I've read of many positive
results, and even a couple research papers which indicated it works. My
experience with it has been disappointing, to say the least. It may be
that
under very specific circumstances - pH, nutrient level, temperature, level
of string algae infestation, etc. - barely straw will have some effect.
Anyway, I'll never use it again. Anyone want to buy my two bales of
barely
straw :-) ??



"news.pcisys.net" wrote in message
...
So did I DJ. Did not do much to clear my water. Even a bunch of folks
at PPWGS here in Springs, swear by it. I am building a veggie filter
this weekend. Nothing to lose except murky water. And even if it does
not clear things up, will be a nice landscaping to the back yard.
Where are you in Colorado?
W. Dale

Doctor John wrote:
I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I
guess
some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put
bags
of
it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the
bags!

Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
. ..

We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is
clearing

a

bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make
the
suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to
grab.
Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about

killing

the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The
LFS

has

bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the
SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never
heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

I'm in Fort Collins.

I tried barley pellets and the verdict is still out. The string algae
decreased but now the iris and WH are getting pale. So I fertilized the
iris and we'll see. Ofcourse, that hail storm a week ago did a job and
the WH too.

Doctor John wrote:
I'm in the mountains outside of Fort Collins...

I just don't get this barley straw thing. I've read of many positive
results, and even a couple research papers which indicated it works. My
experience with it has been disappointing, to say the least. It may be that
under very specific circumstances - pH, nutrient level, temperature, level
of string algae infestation, etc. - barely straw will have some effect.
Anyway, I'll never use it again. Anyone want to buy my two bales of barely
straw :-) ??



"news.pcisys.net" wrote in message
...

So did I DJ. Did not do much to clear my water. Even a bunch of folks
at PPWGS here in Springs, swear by it. I am building a veggie filter
this weekend. Nothing to lose except murky water. And even if it does
not clear things up, will be a nice landscaping to the back yard.
Where are you in Colorado?
W. Dale

Doctor John wrote:

I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I guess
some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put bags

of

it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the

bags!

Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
om...


We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is

clearing

a


bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make

the

suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to

grab.

Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about

killing


the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The LFS

has


bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

I'm in Fort Collins.

I tried barley pellets and the verdict is still out. The string algae
decreased but now the iris and WH are getting pale. So I fertilized the
iris and we'll see. Ofcourse, that hail storm a week ago did a job and
the WH too.

Doctor John wrote:
I'm in the mountains outside of Fort Collins...

I just don't get this barley straw thing. I've read of many positive
results, and even a couple research papers which indicated it works. My
experience with it has been disappointing, to say the least. It may be that
under very specific circumstances - pH, nutrient level, temperature, level
of string algae infestation, etc. - barely straw will have some effect.
Anyway, I'll never use it again. Anyone want to buy my two bales of barely
straw :-) ??



"news.pcisys.net" wrote in message
...

So did I DJ. Did not do much to clear my water. Even a bunch of folks
at PPWGS here in Springs, swear by it. I am building a veggie filter
this weekend. Nothing to lose except murky water. And even if it does
not clear things up, will be a nice landscaping to the back yard.
Where are you in Colorado?
W. Dale

Doctor John wrote:

I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I guess
some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put bags

of

it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the

bags!

Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
om...


We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is

clearing

a


bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make

the

suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to

grab.

Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about

killing


the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The LFS

has


bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

I'm in Castle Rock Colorado and I think that the straw may be the answer to
my trouble with algae. I had spent $$ for the straw I got at the garden
center this spring, but I think that is why I did not have the algae problem
this year like I had last year. So I now got a 80 pound bale (for 1/2 what
I paid for the two hands full) and making my own little bags for my pound.
The ones that I got from the garden center where all but gone and started to
see the algae coming back. My pond get sun all day so the algae really can
take off, but this year we have had maybe a few hands full that I pulled
out. Last year I was taking ice-cream pails full out every week.
"MattR" wrote in message
...
I'm in Fort Collins.

I tried barley pellets and the verdict is still out. The string algae
decreased but now the iris and WH are getting pale. So I fertilized the
iris and we'll see. Ofcourse, that hail storm a week ago did a job and
the WH too.

Doctor John wrote:
I'm in the mountains outside of Fort Collins...

I just don't get this barley straw thing. I've read of many positive
results, and even a couple research papers which indicated it works. My
experience with it has been disappointing, to say the least. It may be
that
under very specific circumstances - pH, nutrient level, temperature,
level
of string algae infestation, etc. - barely straw will have some effect.
Anyway, I'll never use it again. Anyone want to buy my two bales of
barely
straw :-) ??



"news.pcisys.net" wrote in message
...

So did I DJ. Did not do much to clear my water. Even a bunch of folks
at PPWGS here in Springs, swear by it. I am building a veggie filter
this weekend. Nothing to lose except murky water. And even if it does
not clear things up, will be a nice landscaping to the back yard.
Where are you in Colorado?
W. Dale

Doctor John wrote:

I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I
guess
some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put bags

of

it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the

bags!

Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
om...


We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is

clearing

a


bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make

the

suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to

grab.

Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about

killing


the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The
LFS

has


bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the
SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never
heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

I'm in Castle Rock Colorado and I think that the straw may be the answer to
my trouble with algae. I had spent $$ for the straw I got at the garden
center this spring, but I think that is why I did not have the algae problem
this year like I had last year. So I now got a 80 pound bale (for 1/2 what
I paid for the two hands full) and making my own little bags for my pound.
The ones that I got from the garden center where all but gone and started to
see the algae coming back. My pond get sun all day so the algae really can
take off, but this year we have had maybe a few hands full that I pulled
out. Last year I was taking ice-cream pails full out every week.
"MattR" wrote in message
...
I'm in Fort Collins.

I tried barley pellets and the verdict is still out. The string algae
decreased but now the iris and WH are getting pale. So I fertilized the
iris and we'll see. Ofcourse, that hail storm a week ago did a job and
the WH too.

Doctor John wrote:
I'm in the mountains outside of Fort Collins...

I just don't get this barley straw thing. I've read of many positive
results, and even a couple research papers which indicated it works. My
experience with it has been disappointing, to say the least. It may be
that
under very specific circumstances - pH, nutrient level, temperature,
level
of string algae infestation, etc. - barely straw will have some effect.
Anyway, I'll never use it again. Anyone want to buy my two bales of
barely
straw :-) ??



"news.pcisys.net" wrote in message
...

So did I DJ. Did not do much to clear my water. Even a bunch of folks
at PPWGS here in Springs, swear by it. I am building a veggie filter
this weekend. Nothing to lose except murky water. And even if it does
not clear things up, will be a nice landscaping to the back yard.
Where are you in Colorado?
W. Dale

Doctor John wrote:

I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I
guess
some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put bags

of

it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the

bags!

Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
om...


We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is

clearing

a


bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make

the

suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to

grab.

Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about

killing


the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The
LFS

has


bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the
SO
says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never
heard
this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it should
not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not place in
the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.
Water has been bright to dark green all summer with about two weeks of
partial clarity (could see maybe 2 feet down.) Veggie Filter should
come online in about 5 days (that is when the liner is supposed to arrive.)
Nice to hear from other Coloradians! :-))))
W. Dale (Spring Ranch - Colorado Springs)

G & K Meyer wrote:
I'm in Castle Rock Colorado and I think that the straw may be the answer to
my trouble with algae. I had spent $$ for the straw I got at the garden
center this spring, but I think that is why I did not have the algae problem
this year like I had last year. So I now got a 80 pound bale (for 1/2 what
I paid for the two hands full) and making my own little bags for my pound.
The ones that I got from the garden center where all but gone and started to
see the algae coming back. My pond get sun all day so the algae really can
take off, but this year we have had maybe a few hands full that I pulled
out. Last year I was taking ice-cream pails full out every week.
"MattR" wrote in message
...

I'm in Fort Collins.

I tried barley pellets and the verdict is still out. The string algae
decreased but now the iris and WH are getting pale. So I fertilized the
iris and we'll see. Ofcourse, that hail storm a week ago did a job and
the WH too.

Doctor John wrote:

I'm in the mountains outside of Fort Collins...

I just don't get this barley straw thing. I've read of many positive
results, and even a couple research papers which indicated it works. My
experience with it has been disappointing, to say the least. It may be

that

under very specific circumstances - pH, nutrient level, temperature,

level

of string algae infestation, etc. - barely straw will have some effect.
Anyway, I'll never use it again. Anyone want to buy my two bales of

barely

straw :-) ??



"news.pcisys.net" wrote in message
...


So did I DJ. Did not do much to clear my water. Even a bunch of folks
at PPWGS here in Springs, swear by it. I am building a veggie filter
this weekend. Nothing to lose except murky water. And even if it does
not clear things up, will be a nice landscaping to the back yard.
Where are you in Colorado?
W. Dale

Doctor John wrote:


I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I

guess

some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put bags

of


it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the

bags!


Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
.com...



We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is

clearing


a



bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make

the


suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to

grab.


Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about

killing



the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The

LFS

has



bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the

SO

says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never

heard

this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it should
not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not place in
the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.
Water has been bright to dark green all summer with about two weeks of
partial clarity (could see maybe 2 feet down.) Veggie Filter should
come online in about 5 days (that is when the liner is supposed to arrive.)
Nice to hear from other Coloradians! :-))))
W. Dale (Spring Ranch - Colorado Springs)

G & K Meyer wrote:
I'm in Castle Rock Colorado and I think that the straw may be the answer to
my trouble with algae. I had spent $$ for the straw I got at the garden
center this spring, but I think that is why I did not have the algae problem
this year like I had last year. So I now got a 80 pound bale (for 1/2 what
I paid for the two hands full) and making my own little bags for my pound.
The ones that I got from the garden center where all but gone and started to
see the algae coming back. My pond get sun all day so the algae really can
take off, but this year we have had maybe a few hands full that I pulled
out. Last year I was taking ice-cream pails full out every week.
"MattR" wrote in message
...

I'm in Fort Collins.

I tried barley pellets and the verdict is still out. The string algae
decreased but now the iris and WH are getting pale. So I fertilized the
iris and we'll see. Ofcourse, that hail storm a week ago did a job and
the WH too.

Doctor John wrote:

I'm in the mountains outside of Fort Collins...

I just don't get this barley straw thing. I've read of many positive
results, and even a couple research papers which indicated it works. My
experience with it has been disappointing, to say the least. It may be

that

under very specific circumstances - pH, nutrient level, temperature,

level

of string algae infestation, etc. - barely straw will have some effect.
Anyway, I'll never use it again. Anyone want to buy my two bales of

barely

straw :-) ??



"news.pcisys.net" wrote in message
...


So did I DJ. Did not do much to clear my water. Even a bunch of folks
at PPWGS here in Springs, swear by it. I am building a veggie filter
this weekend. Nothing to lose except murky water. And even if it does
not clear things up, will be a nice landscaping to the back yard.
Where are you in Colorado?
W. Dale

Doctor John wrote:


I've tried barely straw and found it to be totally ineffective. I

guess

some people report that it works - maybe in a warm climate. I put bags

of


it in my pond here in Colorado, and the string algae is growing on the

bags!


Dr. John
"elaine" wrote in message
.com...



We are still fighting the green pond thing although the water is

clearing


a



bit, thanks in part to something from Laguna that is supposed to make

the


suspended alagae clump therefore making it easier for your filter to

grab.


Not a big fan of the chemical thing, but since it said nothing about

killing



the algae I figured I would let the SO have his way and try it. The

LFS

has



bags of Barley straw pellets on sale that I would like to try but the

SO

says that the tannins in it will turn the pond brown? I had never

heard

this but this whole pond thing is new to me.
Thanks for the help
Elaine

What kind of filter do you have now? Size, media, etc.

Thanks

news.pcisys.net wrote:
I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it should
not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not place in
the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.
Water has been bright to dark green all summer with about two weeks of
partial clarity (could see maybe 2 feet down.) Veggie Filter should
come online in about 5 days (that is when the liner is supposed to arrive.)
Nice to hear from other Coloradians! :-))))
W. Dale (Spring Ranch - Colorado Springs)

What kind of filter do you have now? Size, media, etc.

Thanks

news.pcisys.net wrote:
I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it should
not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not place in
the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.
Water has been bright to dark green all summer with about two weeks of
partial clarity (could see maybe 2 feet down.) Veggie Filter should
come online in about 5 days (that is when the liner is supposed to arrive.)
Nice to hear from other Coloradians! :-))))
W. Dale (Spring Ranch - Colorado Springs)

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 06:16:12 -0600, "news.pcisys.net"
wrote:

I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it should
not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not place in
the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.
Water has been bright to dark green all summer with about two weeks of
partial clarity (could see maybe 2 feet down.) Veggie Filter should
come online in about 5 days (that is when the liner is supposed to arrive.)
Nice to hear from other Coloradians! :-))))
W. Dale (Spring Ranch - Colorado Springs)


Newbie here. I have just a little waterfall pond and won't be getting
string algae. But can you tell me how the straw helps in your larger
ponds and does anything happen to the pond over years Straw is not
degradable is it?

TIA

Larry
Southern Ontario

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 06:16:12 -0600, "news.pcisys.net"
wrote:

I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it should
not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not place in
the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.
Water has been bright to dark green all summer with about two weeks of
partial clarity (could see maybe 2 feet down.) Veggie Filter should
come online in about 5 days (that is when the liner is supposed to arrive.)
Nice to hear from other Coloradians! :-))))
W. Dale (Spring Ranch - Colorado Springs)


Newbie here. I have just a little waterfall pond and won't be getting
string algae. But can you tell me how the straw helps in your larger
ponds and does anything happen to the pond over years Straw is not
degradable is it?

TIA

Larry
Southern Ontario

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 06:16:12 -0600, "news.pcisys.net"
wrote:

I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it should
not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not place in
the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.
Water has been bright to dark green all summer with about two weeks of
partial clarity (could see maybe 2 feet down.) Veggie Filter should
come online in about 5 days (that is when the liner is supposed to arrive.)
Nice to hear from other Coloradians! :-))))
W. Dale (Spring Ranch - Colorado Springs)


Newbie here. I have just a little waterfall pond and won't be getting
string algae. But can you tell me how the straw helps in your larger
ponds and does anything happen to the pond over years Straw is not
degradable is it?

TIA

Larry
Southern Ontario

"news.pcisys.net" wrote:

I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it should
not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not place in
the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.

It needs to be at the surface. Place straw in return portion of the
bio-filter and/or anywhere in the pond where good water flow and current
occur. Sunlight and water flow are curcial elements in the decomposition
process. Make sure you use both elements in choosing the location for
your bag(s) to be placed.

When properly applied, naturally occurring microorganisms decompose the
lignins in the barley, releasing humic substances (dissolved organic
carbon) in the water. In the presence of sunlight and oxygen, these
compounds are converted into low levels of hydrogen peroxide. The
hydrogen peroxide is the component that modifies the pond chemistry to
improve pond clarity. Hydrogen peroxide itself is relatively unstable
and does not persist in water, but the slow release effect from the
barley straw provides a constant source of hydrogen peroxide. The
effects from barley straw will begin as early as one to two weeks after
installation, and will remain effective for between four and six months.

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"news.pcisys.net" wrote:

I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it should
not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not place in
the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.

It needs to be at the surface. Place straw in return portion of the
bio-filter and/or anywhere in the pond where good water flow and current
occur. Sunlight and water flow are curcial elements in the decomposition
process. Make sure you use both elements in choosing the location for
your bag(s) to be placed.

When properly applied, naturally occurring microorganisms decompose the
lignins in the barley, releasing humic substances (dissolved organic
carbon) in the water. In the presence of sunlight and oxygen, these
compounds are converted into low levels of hydrogen peroxide. The
hydrogen peroxide is the component that modifies the pond chemistry to
improve pond clarity. Hydrogen peroxide itself is relatively unstable
and does not persist in water, but the slow release effect from the
barley straw provides a constant source of hydrogen peroxide. The
effects from barley straw will begin as early as one to two weeks after
installation, and will remain effective for between four and six months.

--
Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to
http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman

Newbie here. I have just a little waterfall pond and won't be getting
string algae. But can you tell me how the straw helps in your larger
ponds and does anything happen to the pond over years Straw is not
degradable is it?

Straw is degradeable.

As it rots, it realeases a small, steady amount of hydrogen peroxide,
which kills algae.

Nothing happens to the pond, other than being fairly algae free.

Newbie here. I have just a little waterfall pond and won't be getting
string algae. But can you tell me how the straw helps in your larger
ponds and does anything happen to the pond over years Straw is not
degradable is it?

Straw is degradeable.

As it rots, it realeases a small, steady amount of hydrogen peroxide,
which kills algae.

Nothing happens to the pond, other than being fairly algae free.

"Stephen M. Henning" wrote in message
...
"news.pcisys.net" wrote:

the slow release effect from the
barley straw provides a constant source of hydrogen peroxide. The
effects from barley straw will begin as early as one to two weeks after
installation, and will remain effective for between four and six months.

So can we kick the reaction into gear by adding H2O2 from a bottle?
(seriously . . .)
And will the fish turn blonde?
;)=
--
Crashj

"Stephen M. Henning" wrote in message
...
"news.pcisys.net" wrote:

the slow release effect from the
barley straw provides a constant source of hydrogen peroxide. The
effects from barley straw will begin as early as one to two weeks after
installation, and will remain effective for between four and six months.

So can we kick the reaction into gear by adding H2O2 from a bottle?
(seriously . . .)
And will the fish turn blonde?
;)=
--
Crashj

So can we kick the reaction into gear by adding H2O2 from a bottle?
(seriously . . .)

No. Unless you have some way to drip it minutely, constantly.

And will the fish turn blonde?

Hmmmm

So can we kick the reaction into gear by adding H2O2 from a bottle?
(seriously . . .)

No. Unless you have some way to drip it minutely, constantly.

And will the fish turn blonde?

Hmmmm

The best way to utilize barley straw is to place it in a mesh or net
bag, and allow it to float on your ponds surface. So not submerge it.
Once its wet and starts to degrade, it forms a peroxide which is not
harmfull to fish etc but devastating to algae. I used two bales of
barley straw one year in my pond and it virtually killed all of the
algae. Pond is approx 1 surface acre and I had a heap of straw pats
floating in mesh bags and you could definately see a difference in the
water around the bags slowly spreading outward till they all
overlapped. Of course water temp and sun has a lot to do on how fast
it works but it does work. Can't say if it will work if its submerged
or not, and I would not think it would have any detrimental effect on
a pond but I would remove it from a container or liner type pond after
it does its job, as any rotting material will eventually buildup stuff
thats not good for a small pond. A natural bottom (dirt) pond it
should not matter all that much if its of sufficient size.
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The best way to utilize barley straw is to place it in a mesh or net
bag, and allow it to float on your ponds surface. So not submerge it.
Once its wet and starts to degrade, it forms a peroxide which is not
harmfull to fish etc but devastating to algae. I used two bales of
barley straw one year in my pond and it virtually killed all of the
algae. Pond is approx 1 surface acre and I had a heap of straw pats
floating in mesh bags and you could definately see a difference in the
water around the bags slowly spreading outward till they all
overlapped. Of course water temp and sun has a lot to do on how fast
it works but it does work. Can't say if it will work if its submerged
or not, and I would not think it would have any detrimental effect on
a pond but I would remove it from a container or liner type pond after
it does its job, as any rotting material will eventually buildup stuff
thats not good for a small pond. A natural bottom (dirt) pond it
should not matter all that much if its of sufficient size.
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1 100 gallon stock tank (Rubber maid) and 2 70 gallon stock tanks.
These are my bio/mechanical filters. Filter media: black floor scrubber
pads (cut up) and white floor scrubber pads. Two Silent giant 4300
pumps. Last weekend I built a veggie filter; 24' X 1.9' X 18" deep. I
am waiting for the liner to come in. I should have it up and running by
this weekend. Pond is in full sun most of the day.
In the bio filters, I have just stuck some arrow head and mint in just
to see what would happen. I looks like the mint and arrowhead are
living, putting down roots and my live. This morning I noticed I could
see a few inches deeper in the pond. Maybe the clouds and cooler temps
down here have helped. Any suggestions? I have been assured by my
neighbors (both ponders) that I have "plenty of filtration" for my size
pond (19' X 21' X 4.5' Irregular shaped)
We just go a quick huge storm here in the Springs. Any weather up your way?
W. Dale

MattR wrote:
What kind of filter do you have now? Size, media, etc.

Thanks

news.pcisys.net wrote:

I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it
should not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not
place in the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.
Water has been bright to dark green all summer with about two weeks of
partial clarity (could see maybe 2 feet down.) Veggie Filter should
come online in about 5 days (that is when the liner is supposed to
arrive.)
Nice to hear from other Coloradians! :-))))
W. Dale (Spring Ranch - Colorado Springs)

1 100 gallon stock tank (Rubber maid) and 2 70 gallon stock tanks.
These are my bio/mechanical filters. Filter media: black floor scrubber
pads (cut up) and white floor scrubber pads. Two Silent giant 4300
pumps. Last weekend I built a veggie filter; 24' X 1.9' X 18" deep. I
am waiting for the liner to come in. I should have it up and running by
this weekend. Pond is in full sun most of the day.
In the bio filters, I have just stuck some arrow head and mint in just
to see what would happen. I looks like the mint and arrowhead are
living, putting down roots and my live. This morning I noticed I could
see a few inches deeper in the pond. Maybe the clouds and cooler temps
down here have helped. Any suggestions? I have been assured by my
neighbors (both ponders) that I have "plenty of filtration" for my size
pond (19' X 21' X 4.5' Irregular shaped)
We just go a quick huge storm here in the Springs. Any weather up your way?
W. Dale

MattR wrote:
What kind of filter do you have now? Size, media, etc.

Thanks

news.pcisys.net wrote:

I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it
should not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not
place in the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.
Water has been bright to dark green all summer with about two weeks of
partial clarity (could see maybe 2 feet down.) Veggie Filter should
come online in about 5 days (that is when the liner is supposed to
arrive.)
Nice to hear from other Coloradians! :-))))
W. Dale (Spring Ranch - Colorado Springs)

I will give that a try. Thanks! Will let you know if things improve.
W. Dale

Stephen M. Henning wrote:

"news.pcisys.net" wrote:


I still have a 3/4 a bail of straw ("they" said it was barley straw)
from last year. Did not do much for the water, or so it would seem.
Maybe I had it placed improperly. From what I am reading now, it should
not be submerged all the way to the bottom and probably not place in
the bio filter either.
Maybe I will give it another try placed near the top of the water.


It needs to be at the surface. Place straw in return portion of the
bio-filter and/or anywhere in the pond where good water flow and current
occur. Sunlight and water flow are curcial elements in the decomposition
process. Make sure you use both elements in choosing the location for
your bag(s) to be placed.

When properly applied, naturally occurring microorganisms decompose the
lignins in the barley, releasing humic substances (dissolved organic
carbon) in the water. In the presence of sunlight and oxygen, these
compounds are converted into low levels of hydrogen peroxide. The
hydrogen peroxide is the component that modifies the pond chemistry to
improve pond clarity. Hydrogen peroxide itself is relatively unstable
and does not persist in water, but the slow release effect from the
barley straw provides a constant source of hydrogen peroxide. The
effects from barley straw will begin as early as one to two weeks after
installation, and will remain effective for between four and six months.