From: "Stephen M. Henning"


"~ Windsong ~" wrote:

That sounds like poor management to me as much as dishonest employees. As
for places like Wal-Mart - that wouldn't apply. They are not the ones who
order the pond and garden merchandise for the stores.

But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't
sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one
sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the
stock room or storage trailer, etc.

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Walmart doesn't have a stockroom. Managers, if doing their job, make sure the
merchandise is in the proper display in it's proper place. (Entire stores are
plan-o-grammed) They're not on commission and most are eligable for either
welfare, food stamps or both. Store security and cameras are there not so much
to deter customer theft, but employee theft. When such radical measures are
needed by the worlds largest and most profitable corporation against it's own
employees one has to wonder why.

From: "Stephen M. Henning"


"~ Windsong ~" wrote:

That sounds like poor management to me as much as dishonest employees. As
for places like Wal-Mart - that wouldn't apply. They are not the ones who
order the pond and garden merchandise for the stores.

But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't
sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one
sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the
stock room or storage trailer, etc.

--
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http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman

Walmart doesn't have a stockroom. Managers, if doing their job, make sure the
merchandise is in the proper display in it's proper place. (Entire stores are
plan-o-grammed) They're not on commission and most are eligable for either
welfare, food stamps or both. Store security and cameras are there not so much
to deter customer theft, but employee theft. When such radical measures are
needed by the worlds largest and most profitable corporation against it's own
employees one has to wonder why.

From: "Crashj"


"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...

That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to
theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed
ponds
rather than let someone enjoy them.

C'mon, nothing like that devious an approach is required. I am sure Wal-Mart
is self insured for employee/customer theft, so there is no insurance
company to be defrauded in this case.
As far as writing off the inventory, of course they do. Profit is what taxes
are assessed on, so profit = sales-expense.
If Wal-mart does not make a profit the who are the ultimate losers? The
customer, that's who. That would be you and me.
--
Crashj

Most merchandise in stores like WalMart, Kmart and the likes of Home Depot,
Lowes, is on consignment from the manufacturer. That's why the stores don't
care. Whatever doesn't sell, the arrangement with the manufacturer (especially
seasonally sensitive merchandise) is to destroy it. It's cheaper than sending
it back to the manufacturer and warehousing it.

From: "Crashj"


"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...

That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to
theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed
ponds
rather than let someone enjoy them.

C'mon, nothing like that devious an approach is required. I am sure Wal-Mart
is self insured for employee/customer theft, so there is no insurance
company to be defrauded in this case.
As far as writing off the inventory, of course they do. Profit is what taxes
are assessed on, so profit = sales-expense.
If Wal-mart does not make a profit the who are the ultimate losers? The
customer, that's who. That would be you and me.
--
Crashj

Most merchandise in stores like WalMart, Kmart and the likes of Home Depot,
Lowes, is on consignment from the manufacturer. That's why the stores don't
care. Whatever doesn't sell, the arrangement with the manufacturer (especially
seasonally sensitive merchandise) is to destroy it. It's cheaper than sending
it back to the manufacturer and warehousing it.

In article , HA HA Budys
Here wrote:

From: "Crashj"


"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...

That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to
theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed
ponds
rather than let someone enjoy them.

C'mon, nothing like that devious an approach is required. I am sure Wal-Mart
is self insured for employee/customer theft, so there is no insurance
company to be defrauded in this case.
As far as writing off the inventory, of course they do. Profit is what taxes
are assessed on, so profit = sales-expense.
If Wal-mart does not make a profit the who are the ultimate losers? The
customer, that's who. That would be you and me.
--
Crashj

Most merchandise in stores like WalMart, Kmart and the likes of Home Depot,
Lowes, is on consignment from the manufacturer.

Not only that, if you make a return they often charge the
manufacturer/distributor full retail for that return.


jay
Tue Aug 17, 2004




That's why the stores don't
care. Whatever doesn't sell, the arrangement with the manufacturer (especially
seasonally sensitive merchandise) is to destroy it. It's cheaper than sending
it back to the manufacturer and warehousing it.

In article , HA HA Budys
Here wrote:

From: "Crashj"


"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...

That to me is just pure corporate greed! I bet they claimed a LOSS to
theft/damage and still made a profit, or broke even on these preformed
ponds
rather than let someone enjoy them.

C'mon, nothing like that devious an approach is required. I am sure Wal-Mart
is self insured for employee/customer theft, so there is no insurance
company to be defrauded in this case.
As far as writing off the inventory, of course they do. Profit is what taxes
are assessed on, so profit = sales-expense.
If Wal-mart does not make a profit the who are the ultimate losers? The
customer, that's who. That would be you and me.
--
Crashj

Most merchandise in stores like WalMart, Kmart and the likes of Home Depot,
Lowes, is on consignment from the manufacturer.

Not only that, if you make a return they often charge the
manufacturer/distributor full retail for that return.


jay
Tue Aug 17, 2004




That's why the stores don't
care. Whatever doesn't sell, the arrangement with the manufacturer (especially
seasonally sensitive merchandise) is to destroy it. It's cheaper than sending
it back to the manufacturer and warehousing it.

Wal Mart was built on frugal down to earth capitalist ideas. This
brought money which brought capitalist pigs, which threw the ponds in
the trash and Wal Mart too someday. Some hungry retail wolf will eat
them like they ate others, because they are sloppy.



On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:05:08 GMT, (Roy)
wrote:

Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds
setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed)
I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively
large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much
they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and
no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called
management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds
outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for
sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly
reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before
they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out
back...........

Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are
trashed before selling.
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.

Wal Mart was built on frugal down to earth capitalist ideas. This
brought money which brought capitalist pigs, which threw the ponds in
the trash and Wal Mart too someday. Some hungry retail wolf will eat
them like they ate others, because they are sloppy.



On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:05:08 GMT, (Roy)
wrote:

Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds
setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed)
I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively
large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much
they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and
no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called
management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds
outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for
sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly
reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before
they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out
back...........

Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are
trashed before selling.
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.

There's an old saying that I try to live by.

"Waste Not, want not."

Chances are it's not the greed of a good deal, but the financial economics
of it.

"Jabba" wrote in message
...
| ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very
reasonably)
| late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long
time
| employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather
than
| mark them down. They do that to stop people from WAITING until the mark
| downs. Can you believe the GREED of Wal-Marts owners/stockholders?She
| told
| me this when I asked her about a huge pile of shrubs, trees and large
| potted
| plants behind the building.
|
|
| What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the stock
| holders greed?
|
|

There's an old saying that I try to live by.

"Waste Not, want not."

Chances are it's not the greed of a good deal, but the financial economics
of it.

"Jabba" wrote in message
...
| ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very
reasonably)
| late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long
time
| employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather
than
| mark them down. They do that to stop people from WAITING until the mark
| downs. Can you believe the GREED of Wal-Marts owners/stockholders?She
| told
| me this when I asked her about a huge pile of shrubs, trees and large
| potted
| plants behind the building.
|
|
| What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the stock
| holders greed?
|
|

I worked at Staples for a cuple of years.
They had a policy of literally trashing (hammering it to smithereens)
anything that was returned (after they got their credit from the
manufacturer) if it was not in a package.
The reason for this was so that people would not fish thngs back out of the
dumpster and then try to return it without a receipt.

It seemed silly, but still made sense.

Kate

"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...
|
| "Crashj" wrote in message
| hlink.net...
| "Jabba" wrote in message
| ...
| Somebody reported:
| ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very
| reasonably)
| late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long
| time
| employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them
rather
| than
| mark them down.
|
| What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the
stock
| holders greed?
|
| Friend ran a chicken place where the employees were not allowed to take
| home
| leftover chicken at closing, it went into the dumpster. Why? Simple,
when
| they allowed it there was ALWAYS a full fryer at the end of the day.
Maybe
| Wal-mart is protecting the stockholders from the associates?
| --
| Crashj
| ===================================
| That sounds like poor management to me as much as dishonest employees. As
| for places like Wal-Mart - that wouldn't apply. They are not the ones who
| order the pond and garden merchandise for the stores.
| --
| Carol.... the frugal ponder...
| "Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband,
| you will usually find he's already married."
| ~~~~~~{@
| "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
| http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
|

I worked at Staples for a cuple of years.
They had a policy of literally trashing (hammering it to smithereens)
anything that was returned (after they got their credit from the
manufacturer) if it was not in a package.
The reason for this was so that people would not fish thngs back out of the
dumpster and then try to return it without a receipt.

It seemed silly, but still made sense.

Kate

"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...
|
| "Crashj" wrote in message
| hlink.net...
| "Jabba" wrote in message
| ...
| Somebody reported:
| ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very
| reasonably)
| late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long
| time
| employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them
rather
| than
| mark them down.
|
| What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the
stock
| holders greed?
|
| Friend ran a chicken place where the employees were not allowed to take
| home
| leftover chicken at closing, it went into the dumpster. Why? Simple,
when
| they allowed it there was ALWAYS a full fryer at the end of the day.
Maybe
| Wal-mart is protecting the stockholders from the associates?
| --
| Crashj
| ===================================
| That sounds like poor management to me as much as dishonest employees. As
| for places like Wal-Mart - that wouldn't apply. They are not the ones who
| order the pond and garden merchandise for the stores.
| --
| Carol.... the frugal ponder...
| "Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband,
| you will usually find he's already married."
| ~~~~~~{@
| "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
| http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
|

"Stephen M. Henning" wrote
|
| But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't
| sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one
| sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the
| stock room or storage trailer, etc.
|

Have YOU ever worked retail?

Tell you what. Get a corporate DM on your boss's ass telling him that he has
to cut employees hours because of corporate budget cuts and maintain
customer service. This means an entire store with only 5 people on staff,
one of them a manager, one of them an operations officer three of them
minimum wage sales associates.

The three sales associates have to unload 6-11 pallets of stock every other
day, and put it up during the course if an 8 hour, or likely less, shift
because part timers do not get benefits.

Then give those 3 sales associates time to answer the phones, help
customers, tidy the shelves and displays, check to be sure there are no
empty spaces on the shelves and refill them and run the cash registers.

Then, there are the customers who let their children pull the price labels
off of the store shelves as entertainment while the parents are oblivious to
their child's actions. Prices that change daily and a list of several dozen
items that must be relabeled.. by those same three employees.

Try it sometime.
Retail is allot harder than it looks from the customer's side of the
counter. If you want to blame someone, blame the sorporation, not the
employees. The company is to blame 80% of the time.

Kate



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"Stephen M. Henning" wrote
|
| But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't
| sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one
| sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the
| stock room or storage trailer, etc.
|

Have YOU ever worked retail?

Tell you what. Get a corporate DM on your boss's ass telling him that he has
to cut employees hours because of corporate budget cuts and maintain
customer service. This means an entire store with only 5 people on staff,
one of them a manager, one of them an operations officer three of them
minimum wage sales associates.

The three sales associates have to unload 6-11 pallets of stock every other
day, and put it up during the course if an 8 hour, or likely less, shift
because part timers do not get benefits.

Then give those 3 sales associates time to answer the phones, help
customers, tidy the shelves and displays, check to be sure there are no
empty spaces on the shelves and refill them and run the cash registers.

Then, there are the customers who let their children pull the price labels
off of the store shelves as entertainment while the parents are oblivious to
their child's actions. Prices that change daily and a list of several dozen
items that must be relabeled.. by those same three employees.

Try it sometime.
Retail is allot harder than it looks from the customer's side of the
counter. If you want to blame someone, blame the sorporation, not the
employees. The company is to blame 80% of the time.

Kate



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AND...
the stuff gets used instead of winding up in the landfill :-)

Kate

"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...
|
| "Jabba" wrote in message
| ...
| ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very
| reasonably)
| late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the long
| time
| employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them rather
| than
| mark them down. They do that to stop people from WAITING until the
mark
| downs. Can you believe the GREED of Wal-Marts owners/stockholders?She
| told
| me this when I asked her about a huge pile of shrubs, trees and large
| potted
| plants behind the building.
|
|
| What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the stock
| holders greed?
| ===========================
| There is no GREED when you get or look for a bargain. A bargain benefits
| BOTH sides, not just one side. The items are sold cheaply and the store
| doesn't take a loss, or worse yet, dishonestly claim a loss from their
| insurance Co. The person gets a good deal on the item and saves money
that
| they're usually end up spending in the same store on something else.
| --
| Carol.... the frugal ponder...
| "Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband,
| you will usually find he's already married."
| ~~~~~~{@
| "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
| http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|