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"Lydia" wrote in message ... I used to work at Barnes & Noble. During peak retail times publishers would send us extra copies of books thought to be in higher demand in the "mass market" format - that's the smaller size paperbacks. After said peak season ended and we had leftovers, the cover would be torn off and sent back to the publisher who would give the company credit for what they didn't sell. The staff were allowed to take 1 or 2 titles w/o their front covers home, but the rest were torn up into small sections of book and thrown in the dumpster! Surely those could have been donated to a charity organization or something. I always hated that. $$ How sickening. Think how much old people in a NH, or disabled shut-ins would love to have them. It's crossed my mind how much the elderly or disabled would love some of those plants piled up behind the Wal-Mart store. I know that doesn't apply to the WalMart thing, but just reminded me of my little stories. I agree that it seems awfully wasteful of WalMart to just toss them and would seem harmless to let people take them for free if they were just going in the dumpster. $$ Or mark then down to almost nothing like the Lowe's store does. This way the store gets something, and people are very happy to remove this merchandise from the manager's face. :-) It makes for good will. -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?" ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
"Lydia" wrote in message ... I used to work at Barnes & Noble. During peak retail times publishers would send us extra copies of books thought to be in higher demand in the "mass market" format - that's the smaller size paperbacks. After said peak season ended and we had leftovers, the cover would be torn off and sent back to the publisher who would give the company credit for what they didn't sell. The staff were allowed to take 1 or 2 titles w/o their front covers home, but the rest were torn up into small sections of book and thrown in the dumpster! Surely those could have been donated to a charity organization or something. I always hated that. $$ How sickening. Think how much old people in a NH, or disabled shut-ins would love to have them. It's crossed my mind how much the elderly or disabled would love some of those plants piled up behind the Wal-Mart store. I know that doesn't apply to the WalMart thing, but just reminded me of my little stories. I agree that it seems awfully wasteful of WalMart to just toss them and would seem harmless to let people take them for free if they were just going in the dumpster. $$ Or mark then down to almost nothing like the Lowe's store does. This way the store gets something, and people are very happy to remove this merchandise from the manager's face. :-) It makes for good will. -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?" ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 23:09:23 -0500, "~ Windsong ~"
wrote: snip ===$$ How sickening. Think how much old people in a NH, or disabled shut-ins ===would love to have them. It's crossed my mind how much the elderly or ===disabled would love some of those plants piled up behind the Wal-Mart store. === === I know that doesn't apply to the WalMart thing, but just reminded me of my === little stories. I agree that it seems awfully wasteful of WalMart to just === toss them and would seem harmless to let people take them for free if they === were just going in the dumpster. === ===$$ Or mark then down to almost nothing like the Lowe's store does. This way ===the store gets something, and people are very happy to remove this ===merchandise from the manager's face. :-) It makes for good will. This is exactly how I feel. Our local Lowes may mark something down but their dumpster is off limits and they never ever give anything for free, even old pallets or broken pavers. Home Depot on the oter hand has an area set up behind the store, and have pallets there with piles of broken and busted merchandise like walkay pavers, edgers, plants, busted bags of gravel and mulch with a big sign above the stuff saying FREE.......For the most part stuff will remain laying there for a long time, and even myself I will let a lot of stuff remain even if I could use it "eventually"......its not like I just have to have it, and why be selfish. Just yesterday I got 9 broken bags of cypress mulch and 11 bags of various bagged decorative stones etc, as well as a heap of broken walk pavers.......and 8 bags of shredded tires listed as soft playground mulch......The majority of plants and pavers and edgers I have around my property and used in my pond construction were obtained over time for free this way........They do not mind scratching my back and I sure don't mind repaying the favor as I then spend more money or at least try my best to utilize these places for any purchase I need. I spend some serious money in Home Depot, but very little in places like Lowes. Wal MArts reply to retreiving stuff from the dumpster is. We do not allow it, but we are not going to make any effort to guard our dumpster either........or go out of our way to prevent it. They simply can't give permission to remove the stuff, but once in the dumpster they are not going to stop you from retreiving plants etc either..........its at this point when stuff is in the dumpster that they met their responsibility in what their policy requires. Other places will have you arrested for tresspassing if you dive their dumpsters......... I have also been known to get flowers from Wal MArts dumpster and also from Home Depot, and take my time and nurse them back to health, and take them and plant them at various roadway memorial markers you see setup where people have been killed in accidents......This little act gives me a sense of pleasure and presents no hazzard to roadways. I have also nursed back to health a lot of plants and gave them to a elderly care center nearby, which really made the residents day..........I think there is much more to be gained for donating or giving items away to be used by those less fortunate or by those that really appreciate it even in a state of dissrepair than filling a landfill up and increasing the bank account. I sure did not intend for my original post to get so lengthy especially when the only content about ponding was the fact they were going to destroy and trash the liners.......... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
"~ Windsong ~" wrote:
"Stephen M. Henning" wrote: But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the stock room or storage trailer, etc. ========================= Again you have a *management* problem then. Where is the store MANAGER and ass't manager? Managers are employees also. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
"~ Windsong ~" wrote:
"Stephen M. Henning" wrote: But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the stock room or storage trailer, etc. ========================= Again you have a *management* problem then. Where is the store MANAGER and ass't manager? Managers are employees also. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
"~ Windsong ~" wrote:
"Stephen M. Henning" wrote: But the employees are the ones who can make sure merchandise doesn't sell by hiding price tags, putting it in poor locations where no one sees it, bad mouthing things they don't want to sell, leaving it in the stock room or storage trailer, etc. ========================= Again you have a *management* problem then. Where is the store MANAGER and ass't manager? Managers are employees also. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
"SVTKate" wrote:
This means an entire store with only 5 people on staff, one of them a manager, one of them an operations officer three of them minimum wage sales associates. Our Walmart has that many Seniors at the door greeting people. It has a similar number in the garden section just loading peoples cars. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
"SVTKate" wrote:
This means an entire store with only 5 people on staff, one of them a manager, one of them an operations officer three of them minimum wage sales associates. Our Walmart has that many Seniors at the door greeting people. It has a similar number in the garden section just loading peoples cars. -- Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman |
"SVTKate" wrote:
If you want to blame someone, blame the sorporation, not the employees. The company is to blame 80% of the time. It sounds like you don't like your job. Have you tried a different line of work. If you have to go around blaming people perhaps you aren't busy enough. |
"SVTKate" wrote:
If you want to blame someone, blame the sorporation, not the employees. The company is to blame 80% of the time. It sounds like you don't like your job. Have you tried a different line of work. If you have to go around blaming people perhaps you aren't busy enough. |
As a bargain hunter to the nth degree I would hate to see this happen. But,
not knowing the numbers I cannot say how foolish this is or not. I would suspect this policy is just for people like me - to encourage them to buy them at retail, rollback or even clearance and not wait for 'giveaway' pricing, lest they be gone. I am a self employed printer. All jobs are overprinted to allow for loss during the bindery stage. I used to always include any extras left over (instead of trashing them) untill I realized people would order less or less frequently counting on getting some 'for free'. What goodwill or perceived discount this made in the buying decision is very difficult to say. However the industry pretty much follows this rule, apparently believing the more you give away the more you are taking out of your own pocket. On the other hand: Enforcement or policies may be different but just the other day I was at Lowe's and spotted 8 planters the water lilies had been in. Again being a bargain hunter to the nth degree I thought these would be great for future planting. They were rectangular but were fairly deep, nice construction, lip to grab them with and probably would not require a weight training program to be able to pull them back out of the pond. I asked what was going to happen with them and was told "People like you carry them out. Take all you want". Eight seemed like a nice round number:) Happy Bargain Hunting! Bill Brister "Roy" wrote in message ... Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed) I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are trashed before selling. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
As a bargain hunter to the nth degree I would hate to see this happen. But,
not knowing the numbers I cannot say how foolish this is or not. I would suspect this policy is just for people like me - to encourage them to buy them at retail, rollback or even clearance and not wait for 'giveaway' pricing, lest they be gone. I am a self employed printer. All jobs are overprinted to allow for loss during the bindery stage. I used to always include any extras left over (instead of trashing them) untill I realized people would order less or less frequently counting on getting some 'for free'. What goodwill or perceived discount this made in the buying decision is very difficult to say. However the industry pretty much follows this rule, apparently believing the more you give away the more you are taking out of your own pocket. On the other hand: Enforcement or policies may be different but just the other day I was at Lowe's and spotted 8 planters the water lilies had been in. Again being a bargain hunter to the nth degree I thought these would be great for future planting. They were rectangular but were fairly deep, nice construction, lip to grab them with and probably would not require a weight training program to be able to pull them back out of the pond. I asked what was going to happen with them and was told "People like you carry them out. Take all you want". Eight seemed like a nice round number:) Happy Bargain Hunting! Bill Brister "Roy" wrote in message ... Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed) I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are trashed before selling. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
It seems to be the typical 'dog in the manger' attitude at WalMart /
Sams Club. I attribute it to the large number of MBAs currently infesting American business. 15 years or so ago (shortly after Sam Walton gave up his hands-on control of the company) there was a big outcry over a change in policy at the Sams Club bakeries. Previously the bakery would give the outdated baked goods to local shelters for distribution to the residents. Obviously, this was appreciated by The Salvation Army, Women in Distress, and countless homeless shelters. Then Sams Club discontinued the practice. According to the newspaper article, they now ran all outdated bakery goods through a $50,000 'blender' they had installed in each store. I could only hope that if the shelters then had to buy their baked goods, they went to Costco. PlainBill On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:05:08 GMT, (Roy) wrote: Was at Wal MArt today and happened to see a heap of preformed ponds setting on a pallet outside the garden section. (15 total preformed) I looked at them and there were two sizes / shapes, both relatively large in size, but no price on them..I inquired inside on how much they were, (actually hoping they may be discounted for clearance) and no one inside could tell me what the story was, so they called management. Management came and I asked about the preformed ponds outside and how much they were. I was promptly told they were not for sale and were to be trashed.....and then.........She promptly reminded the assocate there to make sure they were cut in two before they got thrown in the large construction dumpster out back........... Only in America.......where excess bountiful materials and goods are trashed before selling. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression, for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. -Thomas Paine |
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:23:16 GMT, "Crashj"
wrote: "Lydia" wrote in message ... I used to work at Barnes & Noble. trim tale of evil rip off artist Sure enough, this guy comes into our store, picks the books we had in stock that were on the receipt, off of our shelves and went up to the cashier to ask for a refund. He ran away when we told him we knew what he had done. By now you understand the cost of the book as an object is a minor part of the expected revenue to the owners of the intellectual property, so I hope that point is well made. As for the rip off artists, Wal-mart is the target of the largest organized group of thieves in the world, and it is not the mafia. The mafia stays in one place, these are the travelers. For s secnd there I thought you were going to say "they are the IRS"... Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. "I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin |
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