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waterfall on timer - okay to do?
My waterfall feeds into a 90 gal. tank/pond. So far I have it going
off at 12am and on a 7am. Am I prolonging the life of the pump(I'm sure it's a small one and not overly expensive) or is this just a myth and should I just let it rip 24/7? Any thoughts? All the best, Larry Southern Ontario |
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Larry wrote Am I prolonging the life of the pump(I'm sure it's a small one and not overly expensive) or is this just a myth and should I just let it rip 24/7? Not sure about the life of the pump, one of the technical genies will have to answer that. But as for leaving it on 24/7 - all depends on if you have fish in the pond and if the pump is running a filter. The benefical bacteria in the filter need the running water to stay alive. If the pump is turned off eventually they start to die, especially in the hot summer months. Running water also helps keep oxygen in the water. At night the plants in the pond stop producing oxygen and start using it up. Fish can run into trouble in a heavily planted pond, or a small pond. Running water ensures that they get the oxygen they need. Interestingly you can see this happen if you observe a pond in trouble just before dawn. The fish will be gasping at the surface. Sun comes up and they go back below the water. kathy :-) algae primer http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:48:04 -0400, Larry wrote:
My waterfall feeds into a 90 gal. tank/pond. So far I have it going off at 12am and on a 7am. Am I prolonging the life of the pump(I'm sure it's a small one and not overly expensive) or is this just a myth and should I just let it rip 24/7? Any thoughts? TITAS. Oh, wait, you mean about the pump cycling? Probably the only significant effect you will have is to save a little power. -- Crashj BTW, I am trying forte agent newsreader. Can anyone see this post? |
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Crashj wrote
BTW, I am trying forte agent newsreader. Can anyone see this post? I see you, Crash. kathy :-) algae primer http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html |
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 02:45:13 GMT, Crashj
wrote: On 20 Aug 2004 22:18:24 GMT, EROSPAM (Ka30P) wrote: Crashj wrote BTW, I am trying forte agent newsreader. Can anyone see this post? I see you, Crash. Thanks. This is so new to me but I am sick of OE. Tried to email you Crashj but wasn't sure how much to delete from your addy. Maybe it got through I'm not sure. Need any help with find out about some of the neat functions such as crosspost checking and the killfile, let me know. All the best, Larry Southern Ontario |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:32:54 -0400, Larry wrote:
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 02:45:13 GMT, Crashj wrote: BTW, I am trying forte agent newsreader. Can anyone see this post? Tried to email you Crashj but wasn't sure how much to delete from your addy. Maybe it got through I'm not sure. Need any help with find out about some of the neat functions such as crosspost checking and the killfile, let me know. You can't get there from here. The isp is correct and the user name should be obvious. Right now I have been just trying to get comfortable with reading using it and have not gotten to the exciting parts. Once I read a message I have trouble backing up to it to check it again. Eventually I should figure it out. Thanks for the offer, I'll keep you in mind. -- Crashj |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:32:54 -0400, Larry wrote:
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 02:45:13 GMT, Crashj wrote: BTW, I am trying forte agent newsreader. Can anyone see this post? Tried to email you Crashj but wasn't sure how much to delete from your addy. Maybe it got through I'm not sure. Need any help with find out about some of the neat functions such as crosspost checking and the killfile, let me know. You can't get there from here. The isp is correct and the user name should be obvious. Right now I have been just trying to get comfortable with reading using it and have not gotten to the exciting parts. Once I read a message I have trouble backing up to it to check it again. Eventually I should figure it out. Thanks for the offer, I'll keep you in mind. -- Crashj |
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Considering all the points about why you should let the pump run, it
is common practice in industry and commercial business to let motors run 24/7 even though they may burn a bit more power as a motor is more prone to kicking the bucket at startup than when its actually running. It takes a surge of power to overcome the pumps resitnece and its at this time the amerage is highest, and also when a motor is most prone to smoking. Small as a water gardens pump is it still has design limitations and is just as prone to start up failure as it is to failing any other time the same as any other motor is. Ever notice when you may have turned off a light. The the next time you turn it on and it blows the bulb almost imediately....it was the initial surge of power that took the bulb out, and odds are if it was left on 24/7 it would still be burning. Ever see light bulb average life shown on packages..Light bulbs are no different than a motor, in regards to utilizing the element for resistence or (windings in the pump motor does the same thing in a different manner) and the life expectency is say 2000 hours.........if you did some checking on how they determine that its with a bulb turned on and never turned off, and timed until it eventually fails. If it was cycled on and off it won't even last half that amount of hours. Leave the pump on 24/7 it don;t consume that much power and your ot gaining anything out of it, buy putting it on a timer. Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... My waterfall feeds into a 90 gal. tank/pond. So far I have it going off at 12am and on a 7am. Am I prolonging the life of the pump(I'm sure it's a small one and not overly expensive) or is this just a myth and should I just let it rip 24/7? Any thoughts? All the best, Larry Southern Ontario Your fish need to breathe 24/7. So leave it on, assuming you don't have any other aeration. Although I find mine kind of annoying at night with the windows open. It gets really bad if I let the pond level drop an inch or two. I'm surprised one of the neighbours hasn't shot me yet. |
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Although I find mine kind of annoying at night with the windows open. It gets really bad if I let the pond level drop an inch or two. I'm surprised one of the neighbours hasn't shot me yet. Hi Bill, Some of your neighbors probably find it relaxing. Just like camping. All the best, Larry Southern Ontario |
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I LOVE to hear my waterfalls at night! When winter sets in and the
windows are closed, it takes me a few night to adjust to not having that wonderful sound putting me to sleep! Larry wrote: Although I find mine kind of annoying at night with the windows open. It gets really bad if I let the pond level drop an inch or two. I'm surprised one of the neighbours hasn't shot me yet. Hi Bill, Some of your neighbors probably find it relaxing. Just like camping. All the best, Larry Southern Ontario |
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Although I find mine kind of annoying at night with the windows open. It gets really bad if I let the pond level drop an inch or two. I'm surprised one of the neighbours hasn't shot me yet. Hi Bill, Some of your neighbors probably find it relaxing. Just like camping. All the best, Larry Southern Ontario |
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 02:08:40 GMT, "Bill Stock" wrote:
Although I find mine kind of annoying at night with the windows open. It gets really bad if I let the pond level drop an inch or two. I'm surprised one of the neighbours hasn't shot me yet. Do tell? You find your waterfall annoying?!! That's like uttering blasphemy in here, isn't it? ;o) I use a kiddy monitor so I can hear mine in the back of the house, or when the windows are shut. ~ jan ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~ |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:32:57 -0700, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote: snip === I use a kiddy monitor so I can hear mine in the back ===of the house, or when the windows are shut. ~ jan === Now thats what I call a dedicated ponder! I can set for hours on end listening to the fountain or the water trickling on my water fall at the pond. I can even listen to the water falling from the spout of the hand pump on the wifes new 1/2 barrel setup, but 5 minutes of hearing the water fall in our hot tub drives me crazy and I have to shut it off. Has anyone ever checked out some of the setups hot tub manufactuers use to provide a water fall. The one on our hot tube is pretty darn slick, even though I do not like it. It uses a ball type valve to adjust flow, but the fall itself is two pieces of plastic with ridges that keep the top and bottom seperated. The distance between top and bottom in the center is less than at the ends, and it makes a perfect looking falls when in operation. Most falls require a pretty decent amount of water and flow to get effect, but this fall is nice from a slow flow to a full blown Niagra Falls look.....and I would think it would work fine with a small pump setup, having minmal water flow. As pretty as it is, its noise still drives me crazy! Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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