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W. Dale 27-08-2004 02:19 AM

IRONITE??
 
Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale


Nedra 27-08-2004 03:32 AM

Hi Dale,

As I said in previous I know from nothing about WH, But the folks here have
mentioned
using Potash. I bought a bag but just haven't needed it. Good Thing, cause
I don't know
how much you use for your WH... sorry.

Nedra

"W. Dale" wrote in message
...
Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale



Nedra 27-08-2004 03:32 AM

Hi Dale,

As I said in previous I know from nothing about WH, But the folks here have
mentioned
using Potash. I bought a bag but just haven't needed it. Good Thing, cause
I don't know
how much you use for your WH... sorry.

Nedra

"W. Dale" wrote in message
...
Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale



~ Windsong ~ 27-08-2004 03:55 AM


"W. Dale" wrote in message
...
Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale

===========================
I've been using Ironite in my pond plant's pots and in the garden for years.
No deformed toads, newts, frogs or fish yet.
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"I've learned ...
That it is best to give advice in only two circumstances; when it is
requested and when it is a life threatening situation."
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


~ Windsong ~ 27-08-2004 03:55 AM


"W. Dale" wrote in message
...
Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale

===========================
I've been using Ironite in my pond plant's pots and in the garden for years.
No deformed toads, newts, frogs or fish yet.
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"I've learned ...
That it is best to give advice in only two circumstances; when it is
requested and when it is a life threatening situation."
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Jim and Phyllis Hurley 27-08-2004 11:23 AM

I wrote Ironite to ask about solubility implications for their product used
in ponds. If I get a reply, I will share it. Their website suggests that
rats given a high dose orally do not get sick. They attribute that to the
form of the lead and arsenic in ironite. The issue that faces us has to do
with solubility over time and the quantities we use. Would it stay in
locked form if it sits in the pond? Would it dissolve and build up in the
water? Do water changes help? post any reply I get.

Jim

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____________________________________________
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"W. Dale" wrote in message
...
Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale




Jim and Phyllis Hurley 27-08-2004 11:23 AM

I wrote Ironite to ask about solubility implications for their product used
in ponds. If I get a reply, I will share it. Their website suggests that
rats given a high dose orally do not get sick. They attribute that to the
form of the lead and arsenic in ironite. The issue that faces us has to do
with solubility over time and the quantities we use. Would it stay in
locked form if it sits in the pond? Would it dissolve and build up in the
water? Do water changes help? post any reply I get.

Jim

--
____________________________________________
See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley
Ask me about Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $120+ per child) at: jogathon.net

"W. Dale" wrote in message
...
Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale




W Dale 27-08-2004 12:35 PM

Thanks Jim,
I look forward to reading what they might have to say.
Happy Friday and have a great weekend! We will be having rain in snow
(snow in the higher elevations) this weekend.
W. Dale

Jim and Phyllis Hurley wrote:

I wrote Ironite to ask about solubility implications for their product used
in ponds. If I get a reply, I will share it. Their website suggests that
rats given a high dose orally do not get sick. They attribute that to the
form of the lead and arsenic in ironite. The issue that faces us has to do
with solubility over time and the quantities we use. Would it stay in
locked form if it sits in the pond? Would it dissolve and build up in the
water? Do water changes help? post any reply I get.

Jim





W Dale 27-08-2004 12:35 PM

Thanks Jim,
I look forward to reading what they might have to say.
Happy Friday and have a great weekend! We will be having rain in snow
(snow in the higher elevations) this weekend.
W. Dale

Jim and Phyllis Hurley wrote:

I wrote Ironite to ask about solubility implications for their product used
in ponds. If I get a reply, I will share it. Their website suggests that
rats given a high dose orally do not get sick. They attribute that to the
form of the lead and arsenic in ironite. The issue that faces us has to do
with solubility over time and the quantities we use. Would it stay in
locked form if it sits in the pond? Would it dissolve and build up in the
water? Do water changes help? post any reply I get.

Jim





G-Hoch 27-08-2004 09:09 PM

"W. Dale" wrote in message ...
Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale


Us organic gardeners would never use that stuff, but here is a good
reprint of an article from The Dallas Morning News on the local
Organic Guru's website:
http://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=120 You can find more
info on that site by doing a search.

Gary

G-Hoch 27-08-2004 09:09 PM

"W. Dale" wrote in message ...
Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale


Us organic gardeners would never use that stuff, but here is a good
reprint of an article from The Dallas Morning News on the local
Organic Guru's website:
http://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=120 You can find more
info on that site by doing a search.

Gary

W Dale 28-08-2004 12:08 AM

Thanks! :-) :-) iI will give it a read.
Back. Interesting!
So what would you use to green up your WH?

G-Hoch wrote:

"W. Dale" wrote in message ...


Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale



Us organic gardeners would never use that stuff, but here is a good
reprint of an article from The Dallas Morning News on the local
Organic Guru's website:
http://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=120 You can find more
info on that site by doing a search.

Gary




San Diego Joe 28-08-2004 12:53 AM

"W Dale" wrote:

Thanks! :-) :-) iI will give it a read.
Back. Interesting!
So what would you use to green up your WH?

G-Hoch wrote:

"W. Dale" wrote in
message
...



Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale




Us organic gardeners would never use that stuff, but here is a good
reprint of an article from The Dallas Morning News on the local
Organic Guru's website:
http://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=120 You can find more
info on that site by doing a search.

Gary


High potash value in fertilizer will work just as well. I use sulfate of
potash (0-0-50). I forget the quantity offhand, but someone on the list will
remind me.


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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Jim and Phyllis Hurley 28-08-2004 04:20 AM

As I remember it, the answer was 1 tbsp per 1000 gal per week in high
growing season. Probably varies a lot depending on how many plants are
grabbing the potash for growth.

Jim

--
____________________________________________
See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley
Ask me about Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $120+ per child) at: jogathon.net

"San Diego Joe" wrote in message
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"W Dale" wrote:

Thanks! :-) :-) iI will give it a read.
Back. Interesting!
So what would you use to green up your WH?

G-Hoch wrote:

"W. Dale" wrote

in
message
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Ok. Will somebody tell me what is up with the controversy over
Ironite? In this ng and from some of our local ponders, Ironite used

in
moderation is said to do wonders for WH. Now I am seeing all kinds of
very negative and cautionary site discussing the horrors of Ironite.
And, I see there is a "new and improved" formula available.

Thanks for your comments

W. Dale




Us organic gardeners would never use that stuff, but here is a good
reprint of an article from The Dallas Morning News on the local
Organic Guru's website:
http://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=120 You can find more
info on that site by doing a search.

Gary


High potash value in fertilizer will work just as well. I use sulfate of
potash (0-0-50). I forget the quantity offhand, but someone on the list

will
remind me.


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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W Dale 28-08-2004 11:52 AM

Ok. That sounds reasonable. I have used pot ash before with no
noticeable effect. Look like I may have not been using enough at once.
So the Ironite is really not considered 'all that' when it comes to
greening up and feeding your WH?
Appreciate the feedback! Thanks!
Have great weekend!
W. Dale

Jim and Phyllis Hurley wrote:

As I remember it, the answer was 1 tbsp per 1000 gal per week in high
growing season. Probably varies a lot depending on how many plants are
grabbing the potash for growth.

Jim






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