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Taking koi and 3 goldfish inside for winter question
Hello. I just had my first pond this summer and things went fairly well. I
have 1 koi and 3 goldfish and I live in Canada where they would not survive the -40 weather in January so I brought them in the other day. My question is now what, how much, and often to feed the 4 of them. The koi is about 7 inches, the others are about 5. They are now all in a 70 gallon aquarium. I have been giving them pellet food in the pond on occasion and they really have been fattened up on all the crickets we had the last month that committed suicide in the pond. Do I continue with the pellet food in the house and feed them every other day, or what is the guidelines here? I don't want to overfeed them and deal with all the poop they will be putting out. By the way, I have a fluval 304 filter hooked up to the tank. Thanks. |
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:30:42 -0600, "Grandpa" wrote:
Hello. I just had my first pond this summer and things went fairly well. I have 1 koi and 3 goldfish and I live in Canada where they would not survive the -40 weather in January so I brought them in the other day. My question is now what, how much, and often to feed the 4 of them. The koi is about 7 inches, the others are about 5. They are now all in a 70 gallon aquarium. I have been giving them pellet food in the pond on occasion and they really have been fattened up on all the crickets we had the last month that committed suicide in the pond. Do I continue with the pellet food in the house and feed them every other day, or what is the guidelines here? I don't want to overfeed them and deal with all the poop they will be putting out. By the way, I have a fluval 304 filter hooked up to the tank. Thanks. I've got a 404 fluval on a 55 gallon. I started bring my goldfish in 2 weeks ago, 1 per week. I won't feed much but a couple of pellets the whole 4 weeks till I have all 4 fish inside, and the filter is clearly on its way to being fully cycled. Let your test kits decide when and how much you feed. ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:30:42 -0600, "Grandpa" wrote:
Hello. I just had my first pond this summer and things went fairly well. I have 1 koi and 3 goldfish and I live in Canada where they would not survive the -40 weather in January so I brought them in the other day. My question is now what, how much, and often to feed the 4 of them. The koi is about 7 inches, the others are about 5. They are now all in a 70 gallon aquarium. I have been giving them pellet food in the pond on occasion and they really have been fattened up on all the crickets we had the last month that committed suicide in the pond. Do I continue with the pellet food in the house and feed them every other day, or what is the guidelines here? I don't want to overfeed them and deal with all the poop they will be putting out. By the way, I have a fluval 304 filter hooked up to the tank. Thanks. I've got a 404 fluval on a 55 gallon. I started bring my goldfish in 2 weeks ago, 1 per week. I won't feed much but a couple of pellets the whole 4 weeks till I have all 4 fish inside, and the filter is clearly on its way to being fully cycled. Let your test kits decide when and how much you feed. ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
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"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:30:42 -0600, "Grandpa" wrote: Hello. I just had my first pond this summer and things went fairly well. I have 1 koi and 3 goldfish and I live in Canada where they would not survive the -40 weather in January so I brought them in the other day. My question is now what, how much, and often to feed the 4 of them. The koi is about 7 inches, the others are about 5. They are now all in a 70 gallon aquarium. I have been giving them pellet food in the pond on occasion and they really have been fattened up on all the crickets we had the last month that committed suicide in the pond. Do I continue with the pellet food in the house and feed them every other day, or what is the guidelines here? I don't want to overfeed them and deal with all the poop they will be putting out. By the way, I have a fluval 304 filter hooked up to the tank. Thanks. I've got a 404 fluval on a 55 gallon. I started bring my goldfish in 2 weeks ago, 1 per week. I won't feed much but a couple of pellets the whole 4 weeks till I have all 4 fish inside, and the filter is clearly on its way to being fully cycled. Let your test kits decide when and how much you feed. ~ jan I did about the same when I moved my indoor Goldies a few weeks ago. I cycled the new filter (Fluval 304) on the old tank for a few weeks to establish bacteria. Then I gradually introduced the GF to the new tank, starting with the smallest fish and monitoring Nitrates and Ammonia as I went. You could use some material from your pond's filter to seed the aquarium's filter. You might find one 304 a little small for a 70 gallon tank. I've got two on my 75 gallon. Redundancy is always a good thing with aquariums. That way if one dies (Filter/Heater/etc.) you still got some environmental control. This also allows you to clean the filters on alternate weeks/months/whatever, so that if you screw up and kill your Biofilter, you've still got biobugs in the other filter. |
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"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:30:42 -0600, "Grandpa" wrote: Hello. I just had my first pond this summer and things went fairly well. I have 1 koi and 3 goldfish and I live in Canada where they would not survive the -40 weather in January so I brought them in the other day. My question is now what, how much, and often to feed the 4 of them. The koi is about 7 inches, the others are about 5. They are now all in a 70 gallon aquarium. I have been giving them pellet food in the pond on occasion and they really have been fattened up on all the crickets we had the last month that committed suicide in the pond. Do I continue with the pellet food in the house and feed them every other day, or what is the guidelines here? I don't want to overfeed them and deal with all the poop they will be putting out. By the way, I have a fluval 304 filter hooked up to the tank. Thanks. I've got a 404 fluval on a 55 gallon. I started bring my goldfish in 2 weeks ago, 1 per week. I won't feed much but a couple of pellets the whole 4 weeks till I have all 4 fish inside, and the filter is clearly on its way to being fully cycled. Let your test kits decide when and how much you feed. ~ jan I did about the same when I moved my indoor Goldies a few weeks ago. I cycled the new filter (Fluval 304) on the old tank for a few weeks to establish bacteria. Then I gradually introduced the GF to the new tank, starting with the smallest fish and monitoring Nitrates and Ammonia as I went. You could use some material from your pond's filter to seed the aquarium's filter. You might find one 304 a little small for a 70 gallon tank. I've got two on my 75 gallon. Redundancy is always a good thing with aquariums. That way if one dies (Filter/Heater/etc.) you still got some environmental control. This also allows you to clean the filters on alternate weeks/months/whatever, so that if you screw up and kill your Biofilter, you've still got biobugs in the other filter. |
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once the aquarium is cycled then check the nitrates. if the temps inside is
significantly cooler (basement) dont feed them that often. high quality food has less waste. 4-5 flakes of food twice a day is normal feeding of 5-7 inchers. if you only want to change water once a week, then adjust feeding so nitrate levels only reach 20 ppm per week. be sure to keep top covered, that koi will jump. it is possible to keep your fish outside in winter. I do with a heater, a bucket filter and plastic cover on my pond. altho we only get -20oF here. http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/mypond/winters/winter.htm Ingrid "Grandpa" wrote: Hello. I just had my first pond this summer and things went fairly well. I have 1 koi and 3 goldfish and I live in Canada where they would not survive the -40 weather in January so I brought them in the other day. My question is now what, how much, and often to feed the 4 of them. The koi is about 7 inches, the others are about 5. They are now all in a 70 gallon aquarium. I have been giving them pellet food in the pond on occasion and they really have been fattened up on all the crickets we had the last month that committed suicide in the pond. Do I continue with the pellet food in the house and feed them every other day, or what is the guidelines here? I don't want to overfeed them and deal with all the poop they will be putting out. By the way, I have a fluval 304 filter hooked up to the tank. Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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Ok, thanks for the advice. I guess I need to buy a testing kit of sorts to
check on the levels. We had an early winter storm here and I may have jumped the gun and put them in the tank early. I did use half pond water and some lava rock from my outside filter, so I hope they will do ok. My koi did jump out when I was acclimatizing them to the new tank. I had them in a 5 gallon pail sitting in the new tank to get the temperatures even and my wife came across the koi laying on the floor. She yelled for me to come and pick it up and when I did he was already drying out. I held him in the water turbulence and a fin moved, then he sort of picked up and a week later he is doing well, but not eating like the goldfish yet. I have been using pellet food and he just doesn't seem interested yet. wrote in message ... once the aquarium is cycled then check the nitrates. if the temps inside is significantly cooler (basement) dont feed them that often. high quality food has less waste. 4-5 flakes of food twice a day is normal feeding of 5-7 inchers. if you only want to change water once a week, then adjust feeding so nitrate levels only reach 20 ppm per week. be sure to keep top covered, that koi will jump. it is possible to keep your fish outside in winter. I do with a heater, a bucket filter and plastic cover on my pond. altho we only get -20oF here. http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/mypond/winters/winter.htm Ingrid "Grandpa" wrote: Hello. I just had my first pond this summer and things went fairly well. I have 1 koi and 3 goldfish and I live in Canada where they would not survive the -40 weather in January so I brought them in the other day. My question is now what, how much, and often to feed the 4 of them. The koi is about 7 inches, the others are about 5. They are now all in a 70 gallon aquarium. I have been giving them pellet food in the pond on occasion and they really have been fattened up on all the crickets we had the last month that committed suicide in the pond. Do I continue with the pellet food in the house and feed them every other day, or what is the guidelines here? I don't want to overfeed them and deal with all the poop they will be putting out. By the way, I have a fluval 304 filter hooked up to the tank. Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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Ok, thanks for the advice. I guess I need to buy a testing kit of sorts to
check on the levels. We had an early winter storm here and I may have jumped the gun and put them in the tank early. I did use half pond water and some lava rock from my outside filter, so I hope they will do ok. My koi did jump out when I was acclimatizing them to the new tank. I had them in a 5 gallon pail sitting in the new tank to get the temperatures even and my wife came across the koi laying on the floor. She yelled for me to come and pick it up and when I did he was already drying out. I held him in the water turbulence and a fin moved, then he sort of picked up and a week later he is doing well, but not eating like the goldfish yet. I have been using pellet food and he just doesn't seem interested yet. wrote in message ... once the aquarium is cycled then check the nitrates. if the temps inside is significantly cooler (basement) dont feed them that often. high quality food has less waste. 4-5 flakes of food twice a day is normal feeding of 5-7 inchers. if you only want to change water once a week, then adjust feeding so nitrate levels only reach 20 ppm per week. be sure to keep top covered, that koi will jump. it is possible to keep your fish outside in winter. I do with a heater, a bucket filter and plastic cover on my pond. altho we only get -20oF here. http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/mypond/winters/winter.htm Ingrid "Grandpa" wrote: Hello. I just had my first pond this summer and things went fairly well. I have 1 koi and 3 goldfish and I live in Canada where they would not survive the -40 weather in January so I brought them in the other day. My question is now what, how much, and often to feed the 4 of them. The koi is about 7 inches, the others are about 5. They are now all in a 70 gallon aquarium. I have been giving them pellet food in the pond on occasion and they really have been fattened up on all the crickets we had the last month that committed suicide in the pond. Do I continue with the pellet food in the house and feed them every other day, or what is the guidelines here? I don't want to overfeed them and deal with all the poop they will be putting out. By the way, I have a fluval 304 filter hooked up to the tank. Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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