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rolling koi
Hi I've noticed rcently that one of my koi is performing a sort of roll,
where it swims on its side for just a moment and then rolls. Anyone any ideas? thanks DW |
On or about Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:33:07 +0100,
wrote something like: The fish in my pond go around separate groups. The 10 Koi all sleep/rest together, but otherwise they split into 2 groups exchanging membership occasionally. The two grass carp ALWAYS are together, inseparable. They must be deeply in love or something. The other ordinary GF group together in two or three groups. Anyone else noticed this sort of gang behaviour in your ponds? Yes. My rosey twiddlers hang out in three distinct groups within a 6ft x 11 ft pond. At one time I estimate I had over 1000 in four separate gangs. Now one group has gone away and with Fall here, I am down to about 500 total. Behavior within the groups is slightly different in terms of feeding and motion. cue "Tonight" from West Side Story. The Jets and the Sharks. And I guess, the Twiddlers. -- Crashj |
On or about Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:33:07 +0100,
wrote something like: The fish in my pond go around separate groups. The 10 Koi all sleep/rest together, but otherwise they split into 2 groups exchanging membership occasionally. The two grass carp ALWAYS are together, inseparable. They must be deeply in love or something. The other ordinary GF group together in two or three groups. Anyone else noticed this sort of gang behaviour in your ponds? Yes. My rosey twiddlers hang out in three distinct groups within a 6ft x 11 ft pond. At one time I estimate I had over 1000 in four separate gangs. Now one group has gone away and with Fall here, I am down to about 500 total. Behavior within the groups is slightly different in terms of feeding and motion. cue "Tonight" from West Side Story. The Jets and the Sharks. And I guess, the Twiddlers. -- Crashj |
Either his ailerons are out of adjustment or his rudder needs to be trimmed
;) "david williams" wrote in message ... Hi I've noticed rcently that one of my koi is performing a sort of roll, where it swims on its side for just a moment and then rolls. Anyone any ideas? thanks DW |
The rolling sounds like flashing, which is a sign of parasites or water
quality problems. The fish is not comfortable. He is trying to scrape off the parasites or scratch an itch from something in the water. It is a good idea to have someone scrape the fish for a microscopic examination to determine the type of parasite, and it is a good idea to have a complete set of tests run, pH, and ammonia in particular. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "david williams" wrote in message ... Hi I've noticed rcently that one of my koi is performing a sort of roll, where it swims on its side for just a moment and then rolls. Anyone any ideas? thanks DW |
something stuck in mouth or bacterial infection.
"david williams" wrote: Hi I've noticed rcently that one of my koi is performing a sort of roll, where it swims on its side for just a moment and then rolls. Anyone any ideas? thanks DW ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
could be internal damage too.
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"david williams" wrote in message ...
Hi I've noticed rcently that one of my koi is performing a sort of roll, where it swims on its side for just a moment and then rolls. Anyone any ideas? thanks DW I have a large goldfish who had an out of control infection on top of his head that covered most of it, this caused him to start to roll a little or swim askew. Miracurously I saved him by using massive anti biotics and wound ease, the wound completly healed but now he has a slight roll when he swims especially when going after food. I figured the infection messed up his brain or his inner ear (if a goldfish has one) or maybe he is blind in one eye even though his eyes look fine. I guess your fish could have a parasite infection on his scales but I would have thought that the fish would be scraping himself on objects or jumping out of the water if that was the case but who knows. The only other idea is that its swim bladder was slightly messed up by an infection and now your fish struggles a little when swimming (hence he rolls a little) at least he has a very stable body design so he can cope with it easily enough. I use to own tiger barbs and they have stubby bodies and they have notorious swim bladder problems. Their fine one day and then their rolling and doing head stands and not able to swim correctly at all and you have to put them down. |
Thanks for all suggestions,
Hi, Who would I get to take a scrape, and what does that involve? The fish seems ok at the momentbut still performs the occasioanal 'roll.' "RichToyBox" wrote in message news:EZAgd.340309$D%.137983@attbi_s51... The rolling sounds like flashing, which is a sign of parasites or water quality problems. The fish is not comfortable. He is trying to scrape off the parasites or scratch an itch from something in the water. It is a good idea to have someone scrape the fish for a microscopic examination to determine the type of parasite, and it is a good idea to have a complete set of tests run, pH, and ammonia in particular. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "david williams" wrote in message ... Hi I've noticed rcently that one of my koi is performing a sort of roll, where it swims on its side for just a moment and then rolls. Anyone any ideas? thanks DW |
Thanks for all suggestions,
Hi, Who would I get to take a scrape, and what does that involve? The fish seems ok at the momentbut still performs the occasioanal 'roll.' "RichToyBox" wrote in message news:EZAgd.340309$D%.137983@attbi_s51... The rolling sounds like flashing, which is a sign of parasites or water quality problems. The fish is not comfortable. He is trying to scrape off the parasites or scratch an itch from something in the water. It is a good idea to have someone scrape the fish for a microscopic examination to determine the type of parasite, and it is a good idea to have a complete set of tests run, pH, and ammonia in particular. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "david williams" wrote in message ... Hi I've noticed rcently that one of my koi is performing a sort of roll, where it swims on its side for just a moment and then rolls. Anyone any ideas? thanks DW |
Thanks for all suggestions,
Hi, Who would I get to take a scrape, and what does that involve? The fish seems ok at the momentbut still performs the occasioanal 'roll.' "RichToyBox" wrote in message news:EZAgd.340309$D%.137983@attbi_s51... The rolling sounds like flashing, which is a sign of parasites or water quality problems. The fish is not comfortable. He is trying to scrape off the parasites or scratch an itch from something in the water. It is a good idea to have someone scrape the fish for a microscopic examination to determine the type of parasite, and it is a good idea to have a complete set of tests run, pH, and ammonia in particular. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "david williams" wrote in message ... Hi I've noticed rcently that one of my koi is performing a sort of roll, where it swims on its side for just a moment and then rolls. Anyone any ideas? thanks DW |
In the UK, I would contact someone with the BKKS, at one of the local
sections. You can look them up at http://www.bkks.co.uk/ and scroll down on the left until you find the tab marked sections. Someone within each section should be able to provide the service or recommend someone that will. They will be able to provide better guidance on treatments than most local pond dealers that are just out to make a pound or two. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "david williams" wrote in message ... Thanks for all suggestions, Hi, Who would I get to take a scrape, and what does that involve? The fish seems ok at the momentbut still performs the occasioanal 'roll.' "RichToyBox" wrote in message news:EZAgd.340309$D%.137983@attbi_s51... The rolling sounds like flashing, which is a sign of parasites or water quality problems. The fish is not comfortable. He is trying to scrape off the parasites or scratch an itch from something in the water. It is a good idea to have someone scrape the fish for a microscopic examination to determine the type of parasite, and it is a good idea to have a complete set of tests run, pH, and ammonia in particular. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "david williams" wrote in message ... Hi I've noticed rcently that one of my koi is performing a sort of roll, where it swims on its side for just a moment and then rolls. Anyone any ideas? thanks DW |
Ingrid,
I find it interesting that a LFS owner from Alabama is the only person that talks about neural toxicity. Neither Noga, Wong nor Stoskopf (leaders in fish disease veterinary information) never speak of this conditionl. Or is this a case of, you can't figure it out so you give it a cause that no one will be able to confirm. What a bunch of horse pucky. How about giving informaiton from a real scientist with real creditials, not an ex-LFS owner with no creditials. Oh Yes, Creditials doesn't mean having passed two courses. Tom L.L. --------------------------- wrote in message ... Jo Ann also says could be neural toxicity .... how is the fish doing now? wrote: something stuck in mouth or bacterial infection. "david williams" wrote: Hi I've noticed rcently that one of my koi is performing a sort of roll, where it swims on its side for just a moment and then rolls. Anyone any ideas? thanks DW ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
Mine roll when it rains..or a massive water change....lasts only one or
two days once the ph goes back in balance. |
Mine roll when it rains..or a massive water change....lasts only one or
two days once the ph goes back in balance. |
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