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BenignVanilla 29-01-2003 08:50 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

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John Hines 30-01-2003 03:52 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
"BenignVanilla" wrote:

My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?


Depends on how many leaves fall into the pond.

K30a 30-01-2003 04:14 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
BV wrote
My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

yup! ;-)


k30a

Theron 30-01-2003 04:31 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:50:57 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?


Depending on how big your pond will be. 2 or 3 hundred gallons,
probley not. Larger than that you need the skimmer and a bottom drain.

John Rutz 30-01-2003 04:47 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 


BenignVanilla wrote:
My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

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I dont use one but if you have a lot of small floaty stuff blowing into
your pond they do come in handy
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BenignVanilla 30-01-2003 05:38 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
"Theron" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:50:57 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?


Depending on how big your pond will be. 2 or 3 hundred gallons,
probley not. Larger than that you need the skimmer and a bottom drain.


My estimate, based on what I have seen in my friends yards...is that I will
end up with 2-3000 gallons. What issues arise without a skimmer? A bottom
drain too? I had not even planned on that at all. The skimmer was a possible
idea, but the bottom drain never entered my mind. I'd hate to cut my liner.

BV.



John Jones 30-01-2003 06:28 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 

"BenignVanilla"
wrote in message ...
"Theron" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:50:57 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think

I'll regret it?

Depending on how big your pond will be. 2 or 3 hundred

gallons,
probley not. Larger than that you need the skimmer and a

bottom drain.

My estimate, based on what I have seen in my friends yards...is

that I will
end up with 2-3000 gallons. What issues arise without a

skimmer? A bottom
drain too? I had not even planned on that at all. The skimmer

was a possible
idea, but the bottom drain never entered my mind. I'd hate to

cut my liner.

I've got a 3-year-old 1000 gallon pond with a skimmer and no
bottom drain(it was a kit). The skimmer helps keep leaves and
such from sinking to the bottom where they will rot. I can't
speak to any benefits of installing a bottom drain, but I know
this: They ought to take convicts off the rock piles and chain
gangs, and put them to work digging ponds. ;-)





Theron 30-01-2003 06:58 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:38:31 -0500, "BenignVanilla" My estimate,
based on what I have seen in my friends yards...is that I will
end up with 2-3000 gallons. What issues arise without a skimmer? A bottom
drain too? I had not even planned on that at all. The skimmer was a possible
idea, but the bottom drain never entered my mind. I'd hate to cut my liner.

BV.

IMHO....you need to do a lot more thinking about what your going to
build. Here is a good place to start.

http://webpages.charter.net/crush11/

Chuck has a real good web site on what it takes to build a workable
pond.

http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm

Greg has fantastic info on DIY stuff and great pond design

BenignVanilla 30-01-2003 07:05 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
"Theron" wrote in message
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snip
IMHO....you need to do a lot more thinking about what your going to
build. Here is a good place to start.


It's hovering in the teens here...and will not be spring for some months. I
think I have plenty of thinking time. *laugh*

Thanks for the links.

BV.



John Hines 30-01-2003 07:06 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
"BenignVanilla" wrote:

"Theron" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:50:57 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?


Depending on how big your pond will be. 2 or 3 hundred gallons,
probley not. Larger than that you need the skimmer and a bottom drain.


My estimate, based on what I have seen in my friends yards...is that I will
end up with 2-3000 gallons. What issues arise without a skimmer? A bottom
drain too? I had not even planned on that at all. The skimmer was a possible
idea, but the bottom drain never entered my mind. I'd hate to cut my liner.


Everything that lands on a pond surface, unless skimmed off, or eaten,
will sink to the bottom.

If you have a good bottom drain, then you could get away without a
skimmer.

Without a bottom drain that can remove debris like leaves and such, it
is left up to you to do it, and you will have to do it each fall at a
minimum.

It is a lot easier to bite the bullet, and do the job right the first
time, rather than the last time.

Fringe Ryder 30-01-2003 09:35 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
"BenignVanilla" sez:
My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?


I'm in the minority apparently. I don't have a skimmer. You can see my
pond pics at http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/kc/MyPond.html

If you could put one in easily, do it. But if you can't, it's not going to
destroy the pond.

And no, I don't have a bottom drain either.


Carola / Les 30-01-2003 09:51 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 

"BenignVanilla" wrote in
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My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

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Depends upon your location and possibility of leaves etc getting into the
pond. Also whether or not you have the time to physically remove leaves on
a daily basis when they get in the pond.
I think you only need a bottom drain if the depth is greater than 2ft 6in.
At this depth you will be able to 'paddle' in the pond to remove debris and
'vacuum' as required.
The depth also depends upon where you live. Most fish, including Koi, are
quite happy in 2ft of water providing you give them some kind of shelter and
plants to hide in.
You only need a greater depth when there is extemes of temperature.

Les.



Nedra 30-01-2003 10:27 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
Don't have either a skimmer or a bottom drain,
Fringe. I do use BZT faithfully and will vacuum
the bottom this spring :(

Nedra
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http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Fringe Ryder" wrote in message
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"BenignVanilla" sez:
My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?


I'm in the minority apparently. I don't have a skimmer. You can see my
pond pics at http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/kc/MyPond.html

If you could put one in easily, do it. But if you can't, it's not going

to
destroy the pond.

And no, I don't have a bottom drain either.





[email protected] 30-01-2003 10:34 PM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
avoid leaves in the pond and losing fish... design the pond with netting. then you
wont need a skimmer or a bottom drain...Ingrid

Just Me \Koi\ 31-01-2003 03:11 AM

Will I regret not having a skimmer?
 
I vouch for Theron's response. You'll be sorry if you don't do both!

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"Theron" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:50:57 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?


Depending on how big your pond will be. 2 or 3 hundred gallons,
probley not. Larger than that you need the skimmer and a bottom drain.





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