My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

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"BenignVanilla" wrote:

My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

Depends on how many leaves fall into the pond.

BV wrote
My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

yup! ;-)


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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:50:57 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
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My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

Depending on how big your pond will be. 2 or 3 hundred gallons,
probley not. Larger than that you need the skimmer and a bottom drain.

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I dont use one but if you have a lot of small floaty stuff blowing into
your pond they do come in handy
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:50:57 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

Depending on how big your pond will be. 2 or 3 hundred gallons,
probley not. Larger than that you need the skimmer and a bottom drain.

My estimate, based on what I have seen in my friends yards...is that I will
end up with 2-3000 gallons. What issues arise without a skimmer? A bottom
drain too? I had not even planned on that at all. The skimmer was a possible
idea, but the bottom drain never entered my mind. I'd hate to cut my liner.

BV.

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"Theron" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:50:57 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think
I'll regret it?

Depending on how big your pond will be. 2 or 3 hundred
gallons,
probley not. Larger than that you need the skimmer and a
bottom drain.

My estimate, based on what I have seen in my friends yards...is
that I will
end up with 2-3000 gallons. What issues arise without a
skimmer? A bottom
drain too? I had not even planned on that at all. The skimmer
was a possible
idea, but the bottom drain never entered my mind. I'd hate to
cut my liner.

I've got a 3-year-old 1000 gallon pond with a skimmer and no
bottom drain(it was a kit). The skimmer helps keep leaves and
such from sinking to the bottom where they will rot. I can't
speak to any benefits of installing a bottom drain, but I know
this: They ought to take convicts off the rock piles and chain
gangs, and put them to work digging ponds. ;-)

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:38:31 -0500, "BenignVanilla" My estimate,
based on what I have seen in my friends yards...is that I will
end up with 2-3000 gallons. What issues arise without a skimmer? A bottom
drain too? I had not even planned on that at all. The skimmer was a possible
idea, but the bottom drain never entered my mind. I'd hate to cut my liner.

BV.

IMHO....you need to do a lot more thinking about what your going to
build. Here is a good place to start.

http://webpages.charter.net/crush11/

Chuck has a real good web site on what it takes to build a workable
pond.

http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm

Greg has fantastic info on DIY stuff and great pond design

"Theron" wrote in message
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IMHO....you need to do a lot more thinking about what your going to
build. Here is a good place to start.

It's hovering in the teens here...and will not be spring for some months. I
think I have plenty of thinking time. *laugh*

Thanks for the links.

BV.

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"Theron" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:50:57 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

Depending on how big your pond will be. 2 or 3 hundred gallons,
probley not. Larger than that you need the skimmer and a bottom drain.

My estimate, based on what I have seen in my friends yards...is that I will
end up with 2-3000 gallons. What issues arise without a skimmer? A bottom
drain too? I had not even planned on that at all. The skimmer was a possible
idea, but the bottom drain never entered my mind. I'd hate to cut my liner.

Everything that lands on a pond surface, unless skimmed off, or eaten,
will sink to the bottom.

If you have a good bottom drain, then you could get away without a
skimmer.

Without a bottom drain that can remove debris like leaves and such, it
is left up to you to do it, and you will have to do it each fall at a
minimum.

It is a lot easier to bite the bullet, and do the job right the first
time, rather than the last time.

"BenignVanilla" sez:
My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

I'm in the minority apparently. I don't have a skimmer. You can see my
pond pics at http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/kc/MyPond.html

If you could put one in easily, do it. But if you can't, it's not going to
destroy the pond.

And no, I don't have a bottom drain either.

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Depends upon your location and possibility of leaves etc getting into the
pond. Also whether or not you have the time to physically remove leaves on
a daily basis when they get in the pond.
I think you only need a bottom drain if the depth is greater than 2ft 6in.
At this depth you will be able to 'paddle' in the pond to remove debris and
'vacuum' as required.
The depth also depends upon where you live. Most fish, including Koi, are
quite happy in 2ft of water providing you give them some kind of shelter and
plants to hide in.
You only need a greater depth when there is extemes of temperature.

Les.

Don't have either a skimmer or a bottom drain,
Fringe. I do use BZT faithfully and will vacuum
the bottom this spring

Nedra
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"BenignVanilla" sez:
My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

I'm in the minority apparently. I don't have a skimmer. You can see my
pond pics at http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/kc/MyPond.html

If you could put one in easily, do it. But if you can't, it's not going
to
destroy the pond.

And no, I don't have a bottom drain either.

avoid leaves in the pond and losing fish... design the pond with netting. then you
wont need a skimmer or a bottom drain...Ingrid

I vouch for Theron's response. You'll be sorry if you don't do both!

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"Theron" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:50:57 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote:

My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret it?

Depending on how big your pond will be. 2 or 3 hundred gallons,
probley not. Larger than that you need the skimmer and a bottom drain.