On or about Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:47:06 -0500, "Scott M."
wrote something like:
I am located in Carp, Ontario, which is now part of Ottawa.

How could you NOT have a pond . . .It would be your civic duty, eh?
I especially like your layout with the shallow edges for plants.
Best of luck with the Winter.
--
Crashj

I'd start by checking the thermometer -- isn't 0.1 C darned near frozen
solid??

More-experienced PORGpeople (porgpersons?) can undoubtedly give you better
advice about bubblers, etc. I think I understood that releasing gases is
more important than warming fish, but I do live in the "upper South" (of the
US) according to some gardening books, so what the heck do I really know?
(Um, that the winter weather here is much more to my liking than North
Dakota & Vermont were!)

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"Scott M." wrote in message
...
I have a pond that is around 3 1/2 feet deep. Right now, my thermometer
indicates that it is 0.1 degrees Celcius down there at the bottom. The Koi
and Goldfish
are still alive but isn't that a little too cold? It's not even winter
yet.
I have a bubbler to keep the surface clear and a floating 1250 Watt heater
if I need it later, but I was thinking of lowering a low wattage heater to
the bottom of the pond just to make sure the poor fish don't freeze. Is
this
a good idea?

BTW, my pond photos are at
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/murchi...mK9ICBHtrk1kvG

Scott

I'd start by checking the thermometer -- isn't 0.1 C darned near frozen
solid??

More-experienced PORGpeople (porgpersons?) can undoubtedly give you better
advice about bubblers, etc. I think I understood that releasing gases is
more important than warming fish, but I do live in the "upper South" (of the
US) according to some gardening books, so what the heck do I really know?
(Um, that the winter weather here is much more to my liking than North
Dakota & Vermont were!)

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"Scott M." wrote in message
...
I have a pond that is around 3 1/2 feet deep. Right now, my thermometer
indicates that it is 0.1 degrees Celcius down there at the bottom. The Koi
and Goldfish
are still alive but isn't that a little too cold? It's not even winter
yet.
I have a bubbler to keep the surface clear and a floating 1250 Watt heater
if I need it later, but I was thinking of lowering a low wattage heater to
the bottom of the pond just to make sure the poor fish don't freeze. Is
this
a good idea?

BTW, my pond photos are at
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/murchi...mK9ICBHtrk1kvG

Scott

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 22:32:09 GMT, "Nedra" wrote:

I remember the time my thermometer dropped to 19 degrees F. I wondered why
the pond wasn't frozen solid. I have 13 koi... and at that time as many
goldfish.
Someone here suggested I buy another thermometer... I did and that solved
the problem. lol

LOL! Yes, I was going to say something to the effect of, that these
thermometers don't seem to be as accurate the closer to freezing they go. I
purchased a thermometer for chemistry experiments to check against my pond
one at times. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~


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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 22:32:09 GMT, "Nedra" wrote:

I remember the time my thermometer dropped to 19 degrees F. I wondered why
the pond wasn't frozen solid. I have 13 koi... and at that time as many
goldfish.
Someone here suggested I buy another thermometer... I did and that solved
the problem. lol

LOL! Yes, I was going to say something to the effect of, that these
thermometers don't seem to be as accurate the closer to freezing they go. I
purchased a thermometer for chemistry experiments to check against my pond
one at times. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~


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Scott M. wrote:

I am located in Carp, Ontario, which is now part of Ottawa. I am on a two
acre rural subdivision lot.

Geez, when I lived in The Valley, driving through Carp meant we were still
half an hour from the city... Then the road stopped going through Carp.

Have you ever tried to have the name changed to Koi?
--
derek

Scott M. wrote:

I am located in Carp, Ontario, which is now part of Ottawa. I am on a two
acre rural subdivision lot.

Geez, when I lived in The Valley, driving through Carp meant we were still
half an hour from the city... Then the road stopped going through Carp.

Have you ever tried to have the name changed to Koi?
--
derek

Scott M. wrote:

I am located in Carp, Ontario, which is now part of Ottawa. I am on a two
acre rural subdivision lot.

Geez, when I lived in The Valley, driving through Carp meant we were still
half an hour from the city... Then the road stopped going through Carp.

Have you ever tried to have the name changed to Koi?
--
derek

Anyways, it is flippin' cold in there and I'm glad it's them and not me :)

I'm going to look at the pet store for a small submersible heater just in
case. Ottawa winters can be pretty tough. Two years ago, I kept a floating
heater going and I had frogs swimming around throughout the winter and fish
that would hover just beneath the heater. That told me that it was too warm
in there.

Scott

p.s. we had our first snowfall yesterday and so far, the air bubbler is
keeping the surface open. The air stone is about 8 inches below the surface.

Anyways, it is flippin' cold in there and I'm glad it's them and not me :)

I'm going to look at the pet store for a small submersible heater just in
case. Ottawa winters can be pretty tough. Two years ago, I kept a floating
heater going and I had frogs swimming around throughout the winter and fish
that would hover just beneath the heater. That told me that it was too warm
in there.

Scott

p.s. we had our first snowfall yesterday and so far, the air bubbler is
keeping the surface open. The air stone is about 8 inches below the surface.

Thanks. My old barn really adds to the look of the pond. I hide my filter in
it.

Scott


"Crashj" wrote in message
...
On or about Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:47:06 -0500, "Scott M."
wrote something like:
I am located in Carp, Ontario, which is now part of Ottawa.

How could you NOT have a pond . . .It would be your civic duty, eh?
I especially like your layout with the shallow edges for plants.
Best of luck with the Winter.
--
Crashj

Thanks. My old barn really adds to the look of the pond. I hide my filter in
it.

Scott


"Crashj" wrote in message
...
On or about Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:47:06 -0500, "Scott M."
wrote something like:
I am located in Carp, Ontario, which is now part of Ottawa.

How could you NOT have a pond . . .It would be your civic duty, eh?
I especially like your layout with the shallow edges for plants.
Best of luck with the Winter.
--
Crashj

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:16:12 -0500, "Scott M."
wrote:

I have a pond that is around 3 1/2 feet deep. Right now, my thermometer
indicates that it is 0.1 degrees Celcius down there at the bottom. The Koi
and Goldfish
are still alive but isn't that a little too cold? It's not even winter yet.
I have a bubbler to keep the surface clear and a floating 1250 Watt heater
if I need it later, but I was thinking of lowering a low wattage heater to
the bottom of the pond just to make sure the poor fish don't freeze. Is this
a good idea?

BTW, my pond photos are at
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/murchi...mK9ICBHtrk1kvG

Scott



The 3.5' depth will help. Keep the water from freezing and you'll be
fine. I probably would not allow a temperature below 34 degrees F. A
insulated cover may help.

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:16:12 -0500, "Scott M."
wrote:

I have a pond that is around 3 1/2 feet deep. Right now, my thermometer
indicates that it is 0.1 degrees Celcius down there at the bottom. The Koi
and Goldfish
are still alive but isn't that a little too cold? It's not even winter yet.
I have a bubbler to keep the surface clear and a floating 1250 Watt heater
if I need it later, but I was thinking of lowering a low wattage heater to
the bottom of the pond just to make sure the poor fish don't freeze. Is this
a good idea?

BTW, my pond photos are at
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/murchi...mK9ICBHtrk1kvG

Scott



The 3.5' depth will help. Keep the water from freezing and you'll be
fine. I probably would not allow a temperature below 34 degrees F. A
insulated cover may help.

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:16:12 -0500, "Scott M."
wrote:

I have a pond that is around 3 1/2 feet deep. Right now, my thermometer
indicates that it is 0.1 degrees Celcius down there at the bottom. The Koi
and Goldfish
are still alive but isn't that a little too cold? It's not even winter yet.
I have a bubbler to keep the surface clear and a floating 1250 Watt heater
if I need it later, but I was thinking of lowering a low wattage heater to
the bottom of the pond just to make sure the poor fish don't freeze. Is this
a good idea?

BTW, my pond photos are at
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/murchi...mK9ICBHtrk1kvG

Scott



The 3.5' depth will help. Keep the water from freezing and you'll be
fine. I probably would not allow a temperature below 34 degrees F. A
insulated cover may help.