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HK_Newbie 09-12-2004 05:11 AM

fish euthanasia
 
Alright, I've pretty much given up hope on one of my pond goldfish on ever
getting better, so I moved him into an indoor tank (after acclimating him to
the temp change) and waited a week for what I assume to be a severe slim
bladder disorder to heal. He was laying either on the top or bottom of the
pond, moving only when prodded and gasping for breath while the rest of his
pond mates seemed fine. I figured it would be easier to treat him inside,
in my hospital tank, but so far no luck. All my past experience for what I
assume to be dropsy (bulging scales, inability to swim rightside up or
maintain balance) the fish has either healed under treatment within a week
or died. This fish just won't do either though...

I've also fed him a thawed out pea just in case as well.

I feel that his options are pretty much gone and I'm not really interested
in seeing how long he can prolong his suffering, so my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!

--Ryan



Jon Pike 09-12-2004 11:34 AM

"HK_Newbie" wrote in news:J7Rtd.343$P14.77
@trndny05:

Any opinions?


Depending on the size, either a big kitchen knife or an axe... :/
I had to use an axe on the last fish I had to put down.

--
http://www.neopets.com/refer.phtml?username=moosespet

Tom Randy 09-12-2004 11:35 AM

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 05:11:05 +0000, HK_Newbie wrote:

Alright, I've pretty much given up hope on one of my pond goldfish on ever
getting better, so I moved him into an indoor tank (after acclimating him to
the temp change) and waited a week for what I assume to be a severe slim
bladder disorder to heal. He was laying either on the top or bottom of the
pond, moving only when prodded and gasping for breath while the rest of his
pond mates seemed fine. I figured it would be easier to treat him inside,
in my hospital tank, but so far no luck. All my past experience for what I
assume to be dropsy (bulging scales, inability to swim rightside up or
maintain balance) the fish has either healed under treatment within a week
or died. This fish just won't do either though...

I've also fed him a thawed out pea just in case as well.

I feel that his options are pretty much gone and I'm not really interested
in seeing how long he can prolong his suffering, so my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!

--Ryan



Well this is highly debated in fish cicles. Some say clove oil, some say
freezing, some say off with the head is the fastest way.

Thankfully I haven't had to do it yet...



Steve Barker 09-12-2004 11:46 AM

How about peeling out on him with the car?

Flushing down the commode?

Drop in a bucket of bleach?

just some ideas off the top.


s


"HK_Newbie" wrote in message
news:J7Rtd.343$P14.77@trndny05...
.. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over
a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!

--Ryan





Steve Barker 09-12-2004 11:46 AM

How about peeling out on him with the car?

Flushing down the commode?

Drop in a bucket of bleach?

just some ideas off the top.


s


"HK_Newbie" wrote in message
news:J7Rtd.343$P14.77@trndny05...
.. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over
a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!

--Ryan





Eric Schreiber 09-12-2004 12:33 PM

Steve Barker wrote:

How about peeling out on him with the car?
Flushing down the commode?
Drop in a bucket of bleach?
just some ideas off the top.


None of which were any good.


--
Eric Schreiber
www.ericschreiber.com

Eric Schreiber 09-12-2004 12:33 PM

Steve Barker wrote:

How about peeling out on him with the car?
Flushing down the commode?
Drop in a bucket of bleach?
just some ideas off the top.


None of which were any good.


--
Eric Schreiber
www.ericschreiber.com

rtk 09-12-2004 01:29 PM


It really is a problem because fish tend to die so terribly slowly. I
know the best way to end it, but no way would I be able to do that.
Usually I don't have the courage to do anything and that's the cruelest
non-solution of all. I've seen a fish take more than a week to slowly
die and of course I read all sorts of silly accusatory messages in their
pathetic little clouded eyes. If I were braver and more considerate of
the fish than I am of my own selfish feelings, I would remove them with
a little tank water and perhaps add a little alcohol to the water
and/or the freezer. Just typing this makes me squirm. I know, I know,
the guillotine is kinder, but I can't.

Ruth Kazez

Derek Broughton 09-12-2004 03:24 PM

Tom Randy wrote:

Well this is highly debated in fish cicles. Some say clove oil, some say
freezing, some say off with the head is the fastest way.

Thankfully I haven't had to do it yet...


It's hard to understand how "off with the head" could be fast or humane.
I've seen fish heads gasping for what seemed like hours (but I was a kid at
the time, so might have been just a few minutes).

Now, a completely untested method I was told about last summer was "vodka in
the gills, then off with the head". Seems like a waste of alcohol to me.
--
derek

Derek Broughton 09-12-2004 03:24 PM

Tom Randy wrote:

Well this is highly debated in fish cicles. Some say clove oil, some say
freezing, some say off with the head is the fastest way.

Thankfully I haven't had to do it yet...


It's hard to understand how "off with the head" could be fast or humane.
I've seen fish heads gasping for what seemed like hours (but I was a kid at
the time, so might have been just a few minutes).

Now, a completely untested method I was told about last summer was "vodka in
the gills, then off with the head". Seems like a waste of alcohol to me.
--
derek

Andy Hill 09-12-2004 05:14 PM

"HK_Newbie" wrote:
... my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions?

Years ago, I bought a small bottle of MS-222 / Finquel / Tricaine
Methanesulfonate (a fish anesthetic) for this purpose. Knock the fish out
using the "sleep" dose, then add a large overdose to finish the job. Kind of
expensive up front (around $50, IIRC), but I figure I'm going to be dead and
gone before I use up the one bottle I have, and I like to know I'm not botching
the job.

Andy Hill 09-12-2004 05:14 PM

"HK_Newbie" wrote:
... my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions?

Years ago, I bought a small bottle of MS-222 / Finquel / Tricaine
Methanesulfonate (a fish anesthetic) for this purpose. Knock the fish out
using the "sleep" dose, then add a large overdose to finish the job. Kind of
expensive up front (around $50, IIRC), but I figure I'm going to be dead and
gone before I use up the one bottle I have, and I like to know I'm not botching
the job.

Rick 09-12-2004 05:36 PM


"HK_Newbie" wrote in message
news:J7Rtd.343$P14.77@trndny05...
Alright, I've pretty much given up hope on one of my pond goldfish on ever
getting better, so I moved him into an indoor tank (after acclimating him

to
the temp change) and waited a week for what I assume to be a severe slim
bladder disorder to heal. He was laying either on the top or bottom of

the
pond, moving only when prodded and gasping for breath while the rest of

his
pond mates seemed fine. I figured it would be easier to treat him inside,
in my hospital tank, but so far no luck. All my past experience for what

I
assume to be dropsy (bulging scales, inability to swim rightside up or
maintain balance) the fish has either healed under treatment within a week
or died. This fish just won't do either though...

I've also fed him a thawed out pea just in case as well.

I feel that his options are pretty much gone and I'm not really interested
in seeing how long he can prolong his suffering, so my main question is

the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over

a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!

--Ryan

In a back issue of TFH magazine there was an article on how best to
euthanasia fish and depending on the size of the fish it was suggested that
"crushing or decapitating" was the quickest way. It also mentioned clove
oil.

Rick



george 09-12-2004 07:32 PM


"HK_Newbie" wrote in message
news:J7Rtd.343$P14.77@trndny05...
Alright, I've pretty much given up hope on one of my pond goldfish on ever
getting better, so I moved him into an indoor tank (after acclimating him to
the temp change) and waited a week for what I assume to be a severe slim
bladder disorder to heal. He was laying either on the top or bottom of the
pond, moving only when prodded and gasping for breath while the rest of his
pond mates seemed fine. I figured it would be easier to treat him inside,
in my hospital tank, but so far no luck. All my past experience for what I
assume to be dropsy (bulging scales, inability to swim rightside up or
maintain balance) the fish has either healed under treatment within a week
or died. This fish just won't do either though...

I've also fed him a thawed out pea just in case as well.

I feel that his options are pretty much gone and I'm not really interested
in seeing how long he can prolong his suffering, so my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!

--Ryan


This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes if you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.



Rodney Pont 09-12-2004 11:35 PM

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes if you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.


This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?

--
Regards - Rodney Pont
The from address exists but is mostly dumped,
please send any emails to the address below
e-mail ngpsm4 (at) infohitsystems (dot) ltd (dot) uk



Rodney Pont 09-12-2004 11:35 PM

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes if you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.


This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?

--
Regards - Rodney Pont
The from address exists but is mostly dumped,
please send any emails to the address below
e-mail ngpsm4 (at) infohitsystems (dot) ltd (dot) uk



george 10-12-2004 12:40 AM


"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
news:atcfzvasbuvgflfgrzfygqhx.i8horw0.pminews@ihs1 ...
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes if
you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.


This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?

--


We're talking about a fish in it's last throes, dude. Just because air has more
oxygen than water doesn't mean that they can utilize it better. Gills not only
act as oxygen exchangers, but also eliminate toxins, such as ammonia, from the
blood. They need water in order to function properly. When they are denied
water, ammonia will build up in the blood very rapidly, killing the fish.



george 10-12-2004 12:40 AM


"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
news:atcfzvasbuvgflfgrzfygqhx.i8horw0.pminews@ihs1 ...
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes if
you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.


This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?

--


We're talking about a fish in it's last throes, dude. Just because air has more
oxygen than water doesn't mean that they can utilize it better. Gills not only
act as oxygen exchangers, but also eliminate toxins, such as ammonia, from the
blood. They need water in order to function properly. When they are denied
water, ammonia will build up in the blood very rapidly, killing the fish.



Ook 10-12-2004 12:55 AM


"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
news:atcfzvasbuvgflfgrzfygqhx.i8horw0.pminews@ihs1 ...
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes
if you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If
you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground
until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.


This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?


My Pleco laid on the front room floor for hours and had the cats playing
with him before we found him. We thought he was a goner, but we put him back
in the tank anyhow. That night when we got home, he was breathing. For an
entire week he just sat there growing fungus and gasping. He lost his fins
and scales and was really a miserable looking wretch. But he healed, grew
back most of his fins, and today enjoys a leasurely existance in EthelMs
botanical garden in Henderson, Nevada. I'm not sure about goldfish, but some
fish can live for hours or days out of the water.



HK_Newbie 10-12-2004 03:22 AM

Thanks for the suggestions folks, I figured the best and fastest way to do
it was with the chinese butcher knife and to my surprise it was very fast
for the fish and I kept all digits.
I'm not sure about the leaving it out to try thing or the other "inventive"
suggestions, but the anesthetic idea's piqued my interest and I may buy some
in the future and try it out.

---Ryan



HK_Newbie 10-12-2004 03:22 AM

Thanks for the suggestions folks, I figured the best and fastest way to do
it was with the chinese butcher knife and to my surprise it was very fast
for the fish and I kept all digits.
I'm not sure about the leaving it out to try thing or the other "inventive"
suggestions, but the anesthetic idea's piqued my interest and I may buy some
in the future and try it out.

---Ryan



Bill Oertell 10-12-2004 05:01 AM

Well...the deed's done now, but my vote would have been for a small amount of
water and a blender. Ought to be real quick, plus you can use the mixture for
fertalizer later.



Nitesbane 10-12-2004 05:12 AM


"rtk" wrote in message
...

It really is a problem because fish tend to die so terribly slowly. I
know the best way to end it, but no way would I be able to do that.
Usually I don't have the courage to do anything and that's the cruelest
non-solution of all. I've seen a fish take more than a week to slowly
die and of course I read all sorts of silly accusatory messages in their
pathetic little clouded eyes. If I were braver and more considerate of
the fish than I am of my own selfish feelings, I would remove them with
a little tank water and perhaps add a little alcohol to the water
and/or the freezer.


I had to put a fish down once and freezing cold water with a couple drops of
alcohol did the deed in only a second or two.



george 10-12-2004 05:45 AM


"Ook" wrote in message
...

"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
news:atcfzvasbuvgflfgrzfygqhx.i8horw0.pminews@ihs1 ...
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes if
you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground until
he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.


This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?


My Pleco laid on the front room floor for hours and had the cats playing with
him before we found him. We thought he was a goner, but we put him back in the
tank anyhow. That night when we got home, he was breathing. For an entire week
he just sat there growing fungus and gasping. He lost his fins and scales and
was really a miserable looking wretch. But he healed, grew back most of his
fins, and today enjoys a leasurely existance in EthelMs botanical garden in
Henderson, Nevada. I'm not sure about goldfish, but some fish can live for
hours or days out of the water.


Was he on his last fin, so to speak, before he jumped out (I asssumed that he
jumped out)? You're missing the point. The guy said his fish was nearly dead.
If that is the case, it certainly is not going to linger long after pulling it
out of the water.



george 10-12-2004 05:45 AM


"Ook" wrote in message
...

"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
news:atcfzvasbuvgflfgrzfygqhx.i8horw0.pminews@ihs1 ...
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes if
you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground until
he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.


This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?


My Pleco laid on the front room floor for hours and had the cats playing with
him before we found him. We thought he was a goner, but we put him back in the
tank anyhow. That night when we got home, he was breathing. For an entire week
he just sat there growing fungus and gasping. He lost his fins and scales and
was really a miserable looking wretch. But he healed, grew back most of his
fins, and today enjoys a leasurely existance in EthelMs botanical garden in
Henderson, Nevada. I'm not sure about goldfish, but some fish can live for
hours or days out of the water.


Was he on his last fin, so to speak, before he jumped out (I asssumed that he
jumped out)? You're missing the point. The guy said his fish was nearly dead.
If that is the case, it certainly is not going to linger long after pulling it
out of the water.



The Drunken Lord 10-12-2004 06:09 AM

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 05:11:05 GMT, "HK_Newbie"
wrote:

Alright, I've pretty much given up hope on one of my pond goldfish on ever
getting better, so I moved him into an indoor tank (after acclimating him to
the temp change) and waited a week for what I assume to be a severe slim
bladder disorder to heal. He was laying either on the top or bottom of the
pond, moving only when prodded and gasping for breath while the rest of his
pond mates seemed fine. I figured it would be easier to treat him inside,
in my hospital tank, but so far no luck. All my past experience for what I
assume to be dropsy (bulging scales, inability to swim rightside up or
maintain balance) the fish has either healed under treatment within a week
or died. This fish just won't do either though...

I've also fed him a thawed out pea just in case as well.

I feel that his options are pretty much gone and I'm not really interested
in seeing how long he can prolong his suffering, so my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!


I almost prematurely euthanized a betta but he was one of my best
fighters, so I put him in a salt bath for four hours and the little
fella revived.

The Drunken Lord 10-12-2004 06:10 AM

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 05:12:46 GMT, "Nitesbane"
wrote:


"rtk" wrote in message
...

It really is a problem because fish tend to die so terribly slowly. I
know the best way to end it, but no way would I be able to do that.
Usually I don't have the courage to do anything and that's the cruelest
non-solution of all. I've seen a fish take more than a week to slowly
die and of course I read all sorts of silly accusatory messages in their
pathetic little clouded eyes. If I were braver and more considerate of
the fish than I am of my own selfish feelings, I would remove them with
a little tank water and perhaps add a little alcohol to the water
and/or the freezer.


I had to put a fish down once and freezing cold water with a couple drops of
alcohol did the deed in only a second or two.


If you drop a fish in freezing cold water, they will flap around for a
second before expiring. It is a method I have used, but some people
here think it is tantamount to cruel and unusual punishment.

The Drunken Lord 10-12-2004 06:12 AM

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 06:33:46 -0600, "Eric Schreiber" eric at
ericschreiber dot com wrote:

Steve Barker wrote:

How about peeling out on him with the car?
Flushing down the commode?
Drop in a bucket of bleach?
just some ideas off the top.


None of which were any good.


We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.

The Drunken Lord 10-12-2004 06:15 AM

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 10:14:21 -0700, Andy Hill
wrote:

"HK_Newbie" wrote:
... my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions?

Years ago, I bought a small bottle of MS-222 / Finquel / Tricaine
Methanesulfonate (a fish anesthetic) for this purpose. Knock the fish out
using the "sleep" dose, then add a large overdose to finish the job. Kind of
expensive up front (around $50, IIRC), but I figure I'm going to be dead and
gone before I use up the one bottle I have, and I like to know I'm not botching
the job.


There is nothing worse than an inefficient kill. Several years ago I
helped a friend of mine kill a goat to cook for the 4th of July.
Because of inefficiencies, the kill took 45 minutes. Although the
goat tasted good, I believe the experience did detract from the
flavor.

lg 10-12-2004 08:57 AM


"Bill Oertell" wrote in message
...
Well...the deed's done now, but my vote would have been for a small amount

of
water and a blender. Ought to be real quick, plus you can use the mixture

for
fertalizer later.



I haven't had to put a fish down yet.......

I don't recon I could do it......

But it would have to be the quicket I recon...........



Happy'Cam'per 10-12-2004 09:52 AM

"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
...

We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.


And lets guess, you are the upstanding drunken mullet of the aquaria NG's?
--
"In the beginning, God said the four-dimensional divergence of an
antisymmetric,
second rank tensor equals zero, and there was Light , and it was good."



Roy 10-12-2004 12:47 PM


Its been awhile since i posted to rec.ponds as it seems for the most
part to be there are a few selective little bunch of idealists with
their own concepts on how "ponding" should be...and everything else is
either flamed or filtered........I would think after this post of how
to efectively and quickly kill a fish that the pond bitch" Nedras"
filter is going to be pretty darn well max'ed out with new names to
plonk........
My method would have been cut its head off or just stick in a plactic
bag with some Budweiser.........

Y'all have a great day.............that is except for Nedra, I hope
her f**king pond freezes into a giant ice block along with her in it.
Nedra the Ice Queen of rec.ponds...............
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.

Roy 10-12-2004 12:47 PM


Its been awhile since i posted to rec.ponds as it seems for the most
part to be there are a few selective little bunch of idealists with
their own concepts on how "ponding" should be...and everything else is
either flamed or filtered........I would think after this post of how
to efectively and quickly kill a fish that the pond bitch" Nedras"
filter is going to be pretty darn well max'ed out with new names to
plonk........
My method would have been cut its head off or just stick in a plactic
bag with some Budweiser.........

Y'all have a great day.............that is except for Nedra, I hope
her f**king pond freezes into a giant ice block along with her in it.
Nedra the Ice Queen of rec.ponds...............
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Happy'Cam'per 10-12-2004 01:24 PM

"Roy" wrote in message
...
Y'all have a great day.............that is except for Nedra, I hope
her f**king pond freezes into a giant ice block along with her in it.
Nedra the Ice Queen of rec.ponds...............
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
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I had no input whatsoever.
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Hey, did I miss a flame war or something between you and Nedra, damn, I
always miss the juicy stuff :|
In defense of Nedra, I think she's a sweetie pie who probably would'nt harm
a hair on your head. Sometimes in e-mail communications things get a tad
misconstrued, perhaps this is what happened to you. Keeping grudges causes
cancer, i would let it go if I were you :).

HAVE A NICE WEEKEND PORGERS. (I'm off to go scouring the local waterways for
South African Marsilea, wish me luck :)
--
"In the beginning, God said the four-dimensional divergence of an
antisymmetric,
second rank tensor equals zero, and there was Light , and it was good."



Happy'Cam'per 10-12-2004 01:24 PM

"Roy" wrote in message
...
Y'all have a great day.............that is except for Nedra, I hope
her f**king pond freezes into a giant ice block along with her in it.
Nedra the Ice Queen of rec.ponds...............
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.


Hey, did I miss a flame war or something between you and Nedra, damn, I
always miss the juicy stuff :|
In defense of Nedra, I think she's a sweetie pie who probably would'nt harm
a hair on your head. Sometimes in e-mail communications things get a tad
misconstrued, perhaps this is what happened to you. Keeping grudges causes
cancer, i would let it go if I were you :).

HAVE A NICE WEEKEND PORGERS. (I'm off to go scouring the local waterways for
South African Marsilea, wish me luck :)
--
"In the beginning, God said the four-dimensional divergence of an
antisymmetric,
second rank tensor equals zero, and there was Light , and it was good."



Eric Schreiber 10-12-2004 01:49 PM

Bill Oertell wrote:

Well...the deed's done now, but my vote would have been for a small
amount of water and a blender. Ought to be real quick, plus you can
use the mixture for fertalizer later.


That approach, while I agree is probably extremely fast, suffers from
one severe problem - your wife killing you for using her blender that
way.


--
Eric Schreiber
www.ericschreiber.com

Eric Schreiber 10-12-2004 01:49 PM

Bill Oertell wrote:

Well...the deed's done now, but my vote would have been for a small
amount of water and a blender. Ought to be real quick, plus you can
use the mixture for fertalizer later.


That approach, while I agree is probably extremely fast, suffers from
one severe problem - your wife killing you for using her blender that
way.


--
Eric Schreiber
www.ericschreiber.com

2pods 10-12-2004 02:13 PM


"Roy" wrote in message
...

Its been awhile since i posted to rec.ponds as it seems for the most
part to be there are a few selective little bunch of idealists with
their own concepts on how "ponding" should be...and everything else is
either flamed or filtered........I would think after this post of how
to efectively and quickly kill a fish that the pond bitch" Nedras"
filter is going to be pretty darn well max'ed out with new names to
plonk........
My method would have been cut its head off or just stick in a plactic
bag with some Budweiser.........

Y'all have a great day.............that is except for Nedra, I hope
her f**king pond freezes into a giant ice block along with her in it.
Nedra the Ice Queen of rec.ponds...............
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.


Don't be shy Roy, say what you mean ;-)

Peter



The Drunken Lord 10-12-2004 03:22 PM

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:52:04 +0200, "Happy'Cam'per" wrote:

"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
.. .

We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.


And lets guess, you are the upstanding drunken mullet of the aquaria NG's?


Yes, sometimes I take a drink but it does not interfere with the care
I take of my fish or the enthusiasm I feel for aquaria.

The Drunken Lord 10-12-2004 03:22 PM

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:52:04 +0200, "Happy'Cam'per" wrote:

"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
.. .

We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.


And lets guess, you are the upstanding drunken mullet of the aquaria NG's?


Yes, sometimes I take a drink but it does not interfere with the care
I take of my fish or the enthusiasm I feel for aquaria.


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