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Yabbadoo 02-04-2005 05:27 PM

NOT frogspawn - what is it?
 
Attached to some LONG strands of blanketweed I found several strings of ??
eggs ?? - but what are they ?

Definately not frogspawn. These are jelly strings, between 4 and 7 inches
long, with black spots all in a line, about 20 eggs per string.

I'm in UK. Pond contains a few brand-new young Koi, about 3", a couple of
Koi introduced last year (now about 4" long, and an old Koi (10 years), and
possibly bream (they bred in the pond some years ago, just once - never did
see their eggs - since which a heron ate just about everything. Whether they
are still there, impossible to say - hard to see at best of times!.

We have the inevitable frogs, and I've seen both the odd toad and newt under
the rockery stones - very shy creatures they are too! However, never seen
toads or newts in the pond.

Any idea what these egg strings could be, please?



kathy 02-04-2005 06:34 PM

They are not frogs' eggs but they
are toads' eggs.

Toads lay their eggs in strings,
frogs in clumps.

Soon you will have bouncing baby
toadlets!

kathy :-)


Reel McKoi 02-04-2005 07:14 PM


"kathy" wrote in message
oups.com...
They are not frogs' eggs but they
are toads' eggs.

Toads lay their eggs in strings,
frogs in clumps.

Soon you will have bouncing baby
toadlets!

kathy :-)

=================
Don't newts also lay eggs in stings?
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o


kathy 02-04-2005 08:17 PM

As far as I know neither newts or salamanders
lay eggs in strings.

Newts lay one egg at a time and tuck each egg
up in a fold of a leaf, which is rather sweet, until
you read that they will cannibalize each other as
infants...

kathy :-)


Yabbadoo 04-04-2005 12:50 PM

Thank you Kathy and Reel McKoi.
Being man-made rather than artificial pond, I'd rather not have frogs (which
are numerous, anyway). Quite like toads, so am happy to leave their eggs to
mature. However, will the toad tadpoles become "live" food for the fish
(alternatively, will they poison the fish?)


"Yabbadoo" wrote in message
...
Attached to some LONG strands of blanketweed I found several strings of ??
eggs ?? - but what are they ?

Definately not frogspawn. These are jelly strings, between 4 and 7 inches
long, with black spots all in a line, about 20 eggs per string.

I'm in UK. Pond contains a few brand-new young Koi, about 3", a couple of
Koi introduced last year (now about 4" long, and an old Koi (10 years),
and possibly bream (they bred in the pond some years ago, just once -
never did see their eggs - since which a heron ate just about everything.
Whether they are still there, impossible to say - hard to see at best of
times!.

We have the inevitable frogs, and I've seen both the odd toad and newt
under the rockery stones - very shy creatures they are too! However,
never seen toads or newts in the pond.

Any idea what these egg strings could be, please?




~Roy~ 04-04-2005 01:34 PM

You will loose a good portion of them to predators, both in a natural
p;ond or artificial pond. Each year I have thjousands upon thousands
of frogs and toads hatch into tadpoles, and by the time they are
little frogs or toads the numbers have diminished quite a lot. If you
have any predator type fish (Bass, bream, trout, catfish etc) they
will eat tadpoles and young frongs or toads, and no it does not poison
them....
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 11:50:09 GMT, "Yabbadoo" wrote:

===Thank you Kathy and Reel McKoi.
===Being man-made rather than artificial pond, I'd rather not have frogs (which
===are numerous, anyway). Quite like toads, so am happy to leave their eggs to
===mature. However, will the toad tadpoles become "live" food for the fish
===(alternatively, will they poison the fish?)
===
===
==="Yabbadoo" wrote in message
...
=== Attached to some LONG strands of blanketweed I found several strings of ??
=== eggs ?? - but what are they ?
===
=== Definately not frogspawn. These are jelly strings, between 4 and 7 inches
=== long, with black spots all in a line, about 20 eggs per string.
===
=== I'm in UK. Pond contains a few brand-new young Koi, about 3", a couple of
=== Koi introduced last year (now about 4" long, and an old Koi (10 years),
=== and possibly bream (they bred in the pond some years ago, just once -
=== never did see their eggs - since which a heron ate just about everything.
=== Whether they are still there, impossible to say - hard to see at best of
=== times!.
===
=== We have the inevitable frogs, and I've seen both the odd toad and newt
=== under the rockery stones - very shy creatures they are too! However,
=== never seen toads or newts in the pond.
===
=== Any idea what these egg strings could be, please?
===
===



==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!

Reel McKoi 04-04-2005 04:16 PM


"Yabbadoo" wrote in message
...
Thank you Kathy and Reel McKoi.
Being man-made rather than artificial pond, I'd rather not have frogs

(which
are numerous, anyway). Quite like toads, so am happy to leave their eggs

to
mature. However, will the toad tadpoles become "live" food for the fish
(alternatively, will they poison the fish?)

=========================
Before we netted the ponds the frogs and toads would lay their eggs on any
plant material present. I never saw a tadpole where there were koi. Before
we got koi I would see them. I don't believe the goldfish ate them - but
the koi sure did. None were poisoned as far as I know.

--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o


kathy 04-04-2005 04:41 PM


Over the years I remember someone posting that their
fish would taste a toadpole and then spit it out. But
have no experience with toads. (Would love to have
toads but haven't managed that yet!)

I did visit two ponds just south of here where the ponds were
full of toadpoles and don't remember the pond owners complaining
of fish losses.

kathy :-)


Yabbadoo 04-04-2005 04:51 PM

Roy, Reel, Kathy - thanks for the reassurance.
Sincerely, Len.

"~Roy~" wrote in message
...
You will loose a good portion of them to predators, both in a natural
p;ond or artificial pond. Each year I have thjousands upon thousands
of frogs and toads hatch into tadpoles, and by the time they are
little frogs or toads the numbers have diminished quite a lot. If you
have any predator type fish (Bass, bream, trout, catfish etc) they
will eat tadpoles and young frongs or toads, and no it does not poison
them....
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 11:50:09 GMT, "Yabbadoo" wrote:

===Thank you Kathy and Reel McKoi.
===Being man-made rather than artificial pond, I'd rather not have frogs
(which
===are numerous, anyway). Quite like toads, so am happy to leave their
eggs to
===mature. However, will the toad tadpoles become "live" food for the
fish
===(alternatively, will they poison the fish?)
===
===
==="Yabbadoo" wrote in message
...
=== Attached to some LONG strands of blanketweed I found several
strings of ??
=== eggs ?? - but what are they ?
===
=== Definately not frogspawn. These are jelly strings, between 4 and 7
inches
=== long, with black spots all in a line, about 20 eggs per string.
===
=== I'm in UK. Pond contains a few brand-new young Koi, about 3", a
couple of
=== Koi introduced last year (now about 4" long, and an old Koi (10
years),
=== and possibly bream (they bred in the pond some years ago, just
once -
=== never did see their eggs - since which a heron ate just about
everything.
=== Whether they are still there, impossible to say - hard to see at
best of
=== times!.
===
=== We have the inevitable frogs, and I've seen both the odd toad and
newt
=== under the rockery stones - very shy creatures they are too!
However,
=== never seen toads or newts in the pond.
===
=== Any idea what these egg strings could be, please?
===
===



==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!




Reel McKoi 04-04-2005 09:05 PM


"kathy" wrote in message
oups.com...

Over the years I remember someone posting that their
fish would taste a toadpole and then spit it out. But
have no experience with toads. (Would love to have
toads but haven't managed that yet!)


# We have a lot more frogs here where I live than toads.

I did visit two ponds just south of here where the ponds were
full of toadpoles and don't remember the pond owners complaining
of fish losses.

kathy :-)


# If they were toxic I don't think the fish would eat them.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o


[email protected] 05-04-2005 11:28 PM

In .com, on 04/02/05
at 09:34 AM, "kathy" said:

They are not frogs' eggs but they
are toads' eggs.


Toads lay their eggs in strings,
frogs in clumps.


Soon you will have bouncing baby
toadlets!


Dang it, I want some!!


Alan

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~ jan JJsPond.us 11-04-2005 03:56 PM

Soon you will have bouncing baby
toadlets! Kathy


Dang it, I want some!!

Alan


Don't hope for too much. I put in a pond with special intent for the
Pacific Tree Frogs and my neighbors said they couldn't sleep. So I caught
the majority and now *I* can't sleep. :-( ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

Derek Broughton 11-04-2005 07:28 PM

~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:

Soon you will have bouncing baby toadlets! Kathy


Dang it, I want some!!


Don't hope for too much. I put in a pond with special intent for the
Pacific Tree Frogs and my neighbors said they couldn't sleep. So I caught
the majority and now *I* can't sleep. :-( ~ jan


If Pacific Tree Frogs are anything like the eastern ones, they _do_ make a
_lot_ more noise than the American Toad. It's a lovely sound, though.
--
derek


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