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Breaking Dormancy...
How long does it normally take for a rose to break dormancy once
planted? I bought a box J&P Pristine from Lowes two weeks ago and she has yet to break dormancy. The pith of the canes look fine once the dead ends were cut off. I'm stumped and impatient especially now that I have a J&P sale catalog at home. *grin* Do I SP her and order a new Pristine from J&P? I want Pristine because this is one of my "embankment" roses and I like the looks of her thorns. She'll be able to defend herself from marauding children. Heck, she got me *good* just trying to get the current one into the ground! Shiva, my newest DD is sporting a bud. I'll take some pictures as it gets closer to blooming. I'm planning on using the test web server I am currently working on as my garden website. *smile* Sometimes there are some distinct advantages to being a web administrator. The web server is already up and running I'm working on the content management system right now. Once that's done, if anyone wants me to, I can post other people's pictures there also. (In my most optimistic mode, I would love to be able to open it up so other people can do it themsevles. Like I said, I'm being wildly optimistic at the moment.) Susan s h simko at duke dot edu |
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Relax Susan,
When the soild temp is around 40 F the roses tend to concentrate on growing roots. This is a good thing. When warm weather comes along it will be raring to go. -- Theo in Zone 5 Kansas City "Susan H. Simko" wrote in message ... How long does it normally take for a rose to break dormancy once planted? I bought a box J&P Pristine from Lowes two weeks ago and she has yet to break dormancy. The pith of the canes look fine once the dead ends were cut off. I'm stumped and impatient especially now that I have a J&P sale catalog at home. *grin* Do I SP her and order a new Pristine from J&P? I want Pristine because this is one of my "embankment" roses and I like the looks of her thorns. She'll be able to defend herself from marauding children. Heck, she got me *good* just trying to get the current one into the ground! Shiva, my newest DD is sporting a bud. I'll take some pictures as it gets closer to blooming. I'm planning on using the test web server I am currently working on as my garden website. *smile* Sometimes there are some distinct advantages to being a web administrator. The web server is already up and running I'm working on the content management system right now. Once that's done, if anyone wants me to, I can post other people's pictures there also. (In my most optimistic mode, I would love to be able to open it up so other people can do it themsevles. Like I said, I'm being wildly optimistic at the moment.) Susan s h simko at duke dot edu |
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Theo Asir wrote:
When the soild temp is around 40 F the roses tend to concentrate on growing roots. I'm in zone 7 and the night time temps have been above 40 for the past week let alone the daytime temps. Week before it was riany and cool but I still think the daytime temps were over 40. This is a good thing. Roots=Good Most definitely. *smile* When warm weather comes along it will be raring to go. I think that's why I expected to see *something* this past week. *smile* Everyone else has buds all over and the new DD in the front bed is getting bigger every day. She was put in at the beginning of last month while I was out of town. When I returned, less than two weeks after she went in, there were basal shoots all over! Susan s h simko at duke dot edu |
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On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:43:21 -0400, "Susan H. Simko"
wrote: How long does it normally take for a rose to break dormancy once planted? Although ten or so are leafing out nicely, two of my BIG GORGEOUS S&W Greenhouse bareroots are just beginning to sprout. I think it depends on the rose variety, and certainly how you are caring for the rose. Keeping it moist with a daily soak of the soil and spray of the canes? Lightly mounding with pine straw to keep the canes from drying out? I bought a box J&P Pristine from Lowes two weeks ago and she has yet to break dormancy. The pith of the canes look fine once the dead ends were cut off. These roses are usually busting out of their boxes. Tell me, did you leave yours in the box, and if so, was the box already breaking down from being watered, or not? Many people recommend removing these roses from the box, and I think that makes sense. But every one I have planted was in a box that was falling apart since I took too long planting it. G I'm stumped and impatient especially now that I have a J&P sale catalog at home. *grin* Susan--go to the S&W Greenhouse site and look. Prices are better and I can vouch for the BIG HEALTHY plants. They might be shipping only potted now, though. Also--consider trying some ownroots. I LOVE Roses Unlimited, though they have no online ordering. You pay via check and order via telephone. But WONDERFUL plants! Also--Muncy's Rose Emporium, out of Florida. I really like Ken and Susie Muncy. The roses arrive packed kind of funky but they are very healthy and grow big fast! (We are fast getting out of bare root season. Once it gets hot here it is too hard to baby them, and they dry out too fast. Plus, everyone in the world around here carried J&P! Try Buchanan's on Western Blvd almost to Cary. They have a HUGE herd of J&P and Weeks roses, all very healthy, all 13.99-20.00 dollars. Everything else there is overpriced this year, but the roses are good! I SAW pristine there, too! Shiva, my newest DD is sporting a bud. I'll take some pictures as it gets closer to blooming. I'm planning on using the test web server I am currently working on as my garden website. *smile* Sometimes there are some distinct advantages to being a web administrator. The web server is already up and running I'm working on the content management system right now. Once that's done, if anyone wants me to, I can post other people's pictures there also. (In my most optimistic mode, I would love to be able to open it up so other people can do it themsevles. Like I said, I'm being wildly optimistic at the moment.) This all sounds wonderful, and I can't wait!! Susan s h simko at duke dot edu |
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In Susan H. Simko wrote:
How long does it normally take for a rose to break dormancy once planted? I bought a box J&P Pristine from Lowes two weeks ago and she has yet to break dormancy. The pith of the canes look fine once the dead ends were cut off. I'm stumped and impatient especially now that I have a J&P sale catalog at home. grin Do I SP her and order a new Pristine from J&P? Susan, you will have the answer to this in your own rose bed. If the remainder of roses you planted are all well into foliage and buds, and your Pristine hasn't shown a sign, you have a fizzer. I am aware that some roses are earlier starters than others, but in the average garden they do tend to sprout from naked to growth within a few weeks of each other. Unless you have some other factor, eg the late bush is in deep shade. Go get a new one and forget waiting for the one you have. If you want to give the Pristine the benefit of the doubt, pot the current one. You never know. |
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My Roses are already in full leaves and some have over 100 2 in. buds on
them My Taboo is 7 ft tall ! "Susan H. Simko" wrote in message ... Theo Asir wrote: When the soild temp is around 40 F the roses tend to concentrate on growing roots. I'm in zone 7 and the night time temps have been above 40 for the past week let alone the daytime temps. Week before it was riany and cool but I still think the daytime temps were over 40. This is a good thing. Roots=Good Most definitely. *smile* When warm weather comes along it will be raring to go. I think that's why I expected to see *something* this past week. *smile* Everyone else has buds all over and the new DD in the front bed is getting bigger every day. She was put in at the beginning of last month while I was out of town. When I returned, less than two weeks after she went in, there were basal shoots all over! Susan s h simko at duke dot edu |
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Shiva wrote:
Although ten or so are leafing out nicely, two of my BIG GORGEOUS S&W Greenhouse bareroots are just beginning to sprout. I think it depends on the rose variety, and certainly how you are caring for the rose. Keeping it moist with a daily soak of the soil and spray of the canes? Lightly mounding with pine straw to keep the canes from drying out? Pristine broke dormancy this weekend! I guess she knew she was in trouble when she saw the potted Granada sitting on the patio and finally decided it was time to quit playing around. These roses are usually busting out of their boxes. Tell me, did you leave yours in the box, and if so, was the box already breaking down from being watered, or not? Many people recommend removing these roses from the box, and I think that makes sense. But every one I have planted was in a box that was falling apart since I took too long planting it. G Pristine was dry when I got her which is probably why she was so cheap. Since the mulch fell away from the roots when I opened the box, I descided to treat it as a bare root. I soaked her for a little over 24 hours before putting her in the ground. Susan--go to the S&W Greenhouse site and look. Prices are better and I can vouch for the BIG HEALTHY plants. They might be shipping only potted now, though. I actually went down to Witherspoon on Friday with the intention of buying a bare root Pristine from them. I decided to wander through their greenhouses before which is when I stumbled on a potted Granada with a bud just about ready to open. I looked at the colours on the bud and was a goner. She is now planted up against the house and next to the patio. The s.o. hasn't noticed the newest addition yet... *grin* Also--consider trying some ownroots. I LOVE Roses Unlimited, though they have no online ordering. You pay via check and order via telephone. But WONDERFUL plants! Also--Muncy's Rose Emporium, out of Florida. I really like Ken and Susie Muncy. The roses arrive packed kind of funky but they are very healthy and grow big fast! (We are fast getting out of bare root season. Once it gets hot here it is too hard to baby them, and they dry out too fast. Plus, everyone in the world around here carried J&P! Try Buchanan's on Western Blvd almost to Cary. They have a HUGE herd of J&P and Weeks roses, all very healthy, all 13.99-20.00 dollars. Everything else there is overpriced this year, but the roses are good! I SAW pristine there, too! The Granada I bought from Witherspoon is a Weeks rose. I think I paid around $15.00 for her. I also finally broke down and bought a thorn stripper for my cut roses. I don't know if I'll use it or not but it was inexpensive so I figured I would try it. I want to explore some own root roses. I do have at least one as it is apparently a rooted cutting from one of the mystery roses. One of the two I'm most interested in identifying has a bud that is getting ready to bloom any day now. The colour is almost incandescent and is a rich coral. The dark red mystery rose has yet to even put out a bud. That one is *so* fussy and really got knocked back by the late frost whereas the coral coloured one didn't even blink - just kept on throwing out leaves and new canes. I'm seriously thinking about putting up a trellis in the backyard and putting in some climbers. However, I think it would be best for me to see how the lilacs come in first as I would like to put the trellis behind them and I don't know how much they'll interfere with the light. Right now I have a shallow U shaped planting with gradenias and lilacs and I want to put a small ornamental pond in the basin of the U. A trellis behind everything would provide some privacy from the neighbor's house. Oh well, back to work on my test server. It's getting closer to being done but then I have to start working on web pages. I really ought to take some film to be developed also so I have some additional pictures to choose from for the site.... *smile* Susan s h simko at duke dot edu |
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Susan H. Simko wrote:
I actually went down to Witherspoon on Friday with the intention of buying a bare root Pristine from them. I decided to wander through their greenhouses before which is when I stumbled on a potted Granada with a bud just about ready to open. I looked at the colours on the bud and was a goner. She is now planted up against the house and next to the patio. The s.o. hasn't noticed the newest addition yet... *grin* The Granada I bought from Witherspoon is a Weeks rose. I bought a Weeks Granada potted at the Despot in a 2 gallon pot. That darned thing is now 3 x 3 and has to go in the ground ASAP, finished its first flush and headed for the second. The growth is so lush it makes me wonder how big it's going to get. Too big for a pot, that's for sure. |
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:39:28 -0400, "Susan H. Simko"
wrote: Pristine broke dormancy this weekend! I guess she knew she was in trouble when she saw the potted Granada sitting on the patio and finally decided it was time to quit playing around. Well, "Yippee!" on both counts! Pristine was dry when I got her which is probably why she was so cheap. Since the mulch fell away from the roots when I opened the box, I descided to treat it as a bare root. I soaked her for a little over 24 hours before putting her in the ground. You have very good instincts! I understand Pristine is a really lovely rose. I have been tempted to get it, but have not yet. Keep me posted on how it goes. I actually went down to Witherspoon on Friday with the intention of buying a bare root Pristine from them. I decided to wander through their greenhouses before which is when I stumbled on a potted Granada with a bud just about ready to open. I looked at the colours on the bud and was a goner. The buds are so gorgeous. Raspberry and Lemon-Orange sherbet. I cannot wait until you see it open. The substance is so good--nice thick, ruffly petals that open in a perfect, high-centered spiral if you cut it just when the sepals flex. Otherwise it opensdifferently, but is still so beautiful. And the fragrance!! Really, my favorite rose. I have three and one is budding this minute. Is Witherspoon great? I have never physically been there, just ordered bare root roses, and thought they were overpriced. She is now planted up against the house and next to the patio. The s.o. hasn't noticed the newest addition yet... *grin* Also--consider trying some ownroots. I LOVE Roses Unlimited, though they have no online ordering. You pay via check and order via telephone. But WONDERFUL plants! Also--Muncy's Rose Emporium, out of Florida. I really like Ken and Susie Muncy. The roses arrive packed kind of funky but they are very healthy and grow big fast! (We are fast getting out of bare root season. Once it gets hot here it is too hard to baby them, and they dry out too fast. Plus, everyone in the world around here carried J&P! Try Buchanan's on Western Blvd almost to Cary. They have a HUGE herd of J&P and Weeks roses, all very healthy, all 13.99-20.00 dollars. Everything else there is overpriced this year, but the roses are good! I SAW pristine there, too! The Granada I bought from Witherspoon is a Weeks rose. I think I paid around $15.00 for her. I also finally broke down and bought a thorn stripper for my cut roses. I don't know if I'll use it or not but it was inexpensive so I figured I would try it. I want to explore some own root roses. I do have at least one as it is apparently a rooted cutting from one of the mystery roses. One of the two I'm most interested in identifying has a bud that is getting ready to bloom any day now. The colour is almost incandescent and is a rich coral. The dark red mystery rose has yet to even put out a bud. That one is *so* fussy and really got knocked back by the late frost whereas the coral coloured one didn't even blink - just kept on throwing out leaves and new canes. I'm seriously thinking about putting up a trellis in the backyard and putting in some climbers. However, I think it would be best for me to see how the lilacs come in first as I would like to put the trellis behind them and I don't know how much they'll interfere with the light. Right now I have a shallow U shaped planting with gradenias and lilacs and I want to put a small ornamental pond in the basin of the U. A trellis behind everything would provide some privacy from the neighbor's house. Oh well, back to work on my test server. It's getting closer to being done but then I have to start working on web pages. I really ought to take some film to be developed also so I have some additional pictures to choose from for the site.... *smile* Susan s h simko at duke dot edu |
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