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Anybody else growing this sweet little Austin? Mine is recovering from
having been mowed over, it is a tiny baby from Muncy's but had a great bloom on it today. Nice fragrance, too. It's a clear, cool raspberry pink so far. I like it! |
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"Shiva" wrote in message s.com... Anybody else growing this sweet little Austin? Mine is recovering from having been mowed over, it is a tiny baby from Muncy's but had a great bloom on it today. Nice fragrance, too. It's a clear, cool raspberry pink so far. I like it! Does buying Radio Times in a pot two weeks ago count as growing it? It is hopefully going to be planted in the ground this weekend and only has around 3 inches of growth. I'm looking forward to getting lots of blooms from our new roses but since it is the middle of winter here, I think I will be waiting at least until spring for most of them. Though yesterday I did notice a bud each on Crepuscule and Gruss an Aachen. Kirra Brisbane, Australia Zone 10 |
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:22:00 +1000, "Kirra"
wrote: Does buying Radio Times in a pot two weeks ago count as growing it? Sure! It is hopefully going to be planted in the ground this weekend and only has around 3 inches of growth. Mine was a nice 1 gallon own root from Muncy's in FL last fall, made it through the winter fine in the ground, then got mowed. :0( So you and I are at about the same place with this rose. I'm looking forward to getting lots of blooms from our new roses but since it is the middle of winter here, I think I will be waiting at least until spring for most of them. This always gets me. I always forget there is another hemisphere! Or at least that there are opposite season running concurrently. How interesting that you can get potted roses in the winter! What is winter like where you are? As in how cold does it get and how long does it last? When will it be safe to put your RT in the ground? We can compare notes on grafted/own root, US southeast, Australia/? Though yesterday I did notice a bud each on Crepuscule and Gruss an Aachen. I have imagined that I want both of these, in my more fragile moods. :0) Generally I leave pale colors alone. Crepuscle's name gets me--"twilight" or something similar. Very nice. Kirra Brisbane, Australia Zone 10 |
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:22:00 +1000, "Kirra"
wrote: Does buying Radio Times in a pot two weeks ago count as growing it? Sure! It is hopefully going to be planted in the ground this weekend and only has around 3 inches of growth. Mine was a nice 1 gallon own root from Muncy's in FL last fall, made it through the winter fine in the ground, then got mowed. :0( So you and I are at about the same place with this rose. I'm looking forward to getting lots of blooms from our new roses but since it is the middle of winter here, I think I will be waiting at least until spring for most of them. This always gets me. I always forget there is another hemisphere! Or at least that there are opposite season running concurrently. How interesting that you can get potted roses in the winter! What is winter like where you are? As in how cold does it get and how long does it last? When will it be safe to put your RT in the ground? We can compare notes on grafted/own root, US southeast, Australia/? Though yesterday I did notice a bud each on Crepuscule and Gruss an Aachen. I have imagined that I want both of these, in my more fragile moods. :0) Generally I leave pale colors alone. Crepuscle's name gets me--"twilight" or something similar. Very nice. Kirra Brisbane, Australia Zone 10 |
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"Shiva" wrote in message s.com... It is hopefully going to be planted in the ground this weekend and only has around 3 inches of growth. Mine was a nice 1 gallon own root from Muncy's in FL last fall, made it through the winter fine in the ground, then got mowed. :0( So you and I are at about the same place with this rose. Ouch! Maybe you need to put stakes and ropes around it to ensure that it does not get mowed next time :) I'm looking forward to getting lots of blooms from our new roses but since it is the middle of winter here, I think I will be waiting at least until spring for most of them. This always gets me. I always forget there is another hemisphere! Or at least that there are opposite season running concurrently. How interesting that you can get potted roses in the winter! We can get potted roses all year round. Since we have mild winters, some of the local nurseries pot their bare roots up so that they do not dry out before they are sold. It also means that they have a head start by the time that you buy/plant them. We still get bare roots from mail order and from other nurseries and chain stores. What is winter like where you are? As in how cold does it get and how long does it last? As I said winters are very mild here. It's early July (mid winter) and I am wearing jeans and a shirt with just a woolen coat for going outside in the mornings. I probably won't even wear the coat at lunch time when I go outside. The coldest minimum temperature last year was 4C (39F) and probably the same this year so we do not even get below freezing. A 'cold' winter's day in Brisbane is around 15C (59F)- you might need a scarf as well as a jacket. Our forcast for today is 12-23C (53-72F) and is typical of a warmer winter's day. I live close to the coast but further inland they do get below freezing with some frosts. Acck! in looking up today's forcast I noticed we are scheduled for a low of 3C and max of 14C next week. The days either side of that will also be cooler but we only have 1 or 2 days of 'cold' weather :-) Until I was 17 I had never seen snow. I still have not seen fresh snow because I saw my only snow in our alpine region during late spring. Even our 'alpine' region is zone 7 and is over a thousand kilometres from where I live. I keep saying some time I am going to take a holiday in winter and learn to ski! When will it be safe to put your RT in the ground? We can compare notes on grafted/own root, US southeast, Australia/? Since our winter here is probably warmer than your spring :) I can plant all throughout winter. Our first bare root roses turn up at the end of autumn and are on sale until the end of winter. Once it gets to spring I think it is too hot to plant bare roots. Besides minis, patio roses and some young cuttings, I do not have any roses on their own roots. All the roses I have seen on sale in my area are grafted - not counting minis and patio roses. There is a mail order nursery from Victoria that does do own roots but even then, it is only a small selection and they seem to be OGR rather than HTs or Austins. Though yesterday I did notice a bud each on Crepuscule and Gruss an Aachen. I have imagined that I want both of these, in my more fragile moods. :0) Generally I leave pale colors alone. Crepuscle's name gets me--"twilight" or something similar. Very nice. I think both pale and vibrant roses have a place in my garden :) I like the subtelty of the pale flowers but then again it is the vibrant ones that catch your eye and make you go back for a second look. I like all the photos that I have seen of Crepuscule's canes covered in orangey/apricoty, floppy flowers. Sorry, this ended up much longer than I originally anticipated. Also I tried my best on the rough conversions from C to F but realise they will be a little out. Speaking of conversions, I wanted to try out the baking soda and oil spray but could only find recipees for gallon not litres. I checked a conversion page and it said that to times it by 3. I couldn't work out why it was recommending using 3 tablespoons of bi-carb to a litre of water! It just seemed to much so I went for Daniel's milk spray. Thankfully I did because I just found out that it was saying times a litre by three to get a gallon - I was supposed to divide the recipe by 3 to get a litre! My roses would have cooked for sure. Kirra Brisbane, Australia zone 10 |
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In m Shiva wrote:
Anybody else growing this sweet little Austin? Mine is recovering from having been mowed over, it is a tiny baby from Muncy's but had a great bloom on it today. Nice fragrance, too. It's a clear, cool raspberry pink so far. I like it! Shiva, this is my favourite pink Austin. And there's nothing 'little' about it! If it behaves like mine, it will outgrow and outbloom Abraham Darby. I like the fragrance better too - it can really fill a room when cut. Which reminds me to mention that the cut blooms are long-life too. Its one major Achilles heel is mildew. Prepare to spray like mad this autumn. My notes on this rose are at: http://members.optushome.com.au/djha...#Radio%20Times |
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On 11 Jul 2003 10:55:28 GMT, Daniel Hanna
wrote: Shiva, this is my favourite pink Austin. And there's nothing 'little' about it! If it behaves like mine, it will outgrow and outbloom Abraham Darby. I like the fragrance better too - it can really fill a room when cut. Which reminds me to mention that the cut blooms are long-life too. Oh, man, this is great! I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone say that any Austins have long vase lives! Thanks for letting me know. Hope it grows as well here. Its one major Achilles heel is mildew. Prepare to spray like mad this autumn. Daniel, you so funny! You only get mildew in the fall? Lucky dog. If it will just stay dry enough, I am prepared to make spraying the central activity of my gardening, if enough of my roses live. I am still finding horrible canker--some now on the young own roots, but it is way out on long spindly canes, not close to the crown so I can cut it off easily. Interestingly, the canker on them starts yellow then goes brown. My notes on this rose are at: http://members.optushome.com.au/djha...#Radio%20Times How did I miss your lovely web site? Good job on the layout and the many choices you made to creat such a pleasant, user-friendly effect. I definitely have to find more time to browse. I'll look it all over next free hour. |
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:36:21 +1000, "Kirra"
wrote: Ouch! Maybe you need to put stakes and ropes around it to ensure that it does not get mowed next time :) Done. But the mowing (which also took out a mini of great sentimental value, nameless as it was) is a good argument for Cass' habit (if I recall correctly) of keeping these baby ownroots in pots until they reach a reasonable or at least reasonably visible size. Or it may be an argument for doing own's own mowing, but that's just silly. g We can get potted roses all year round. Oooo. Imagine me looking at you with the slitty green eyes of envy. Hiss! On the other hand, if I could get potted roses year round I'd be even more broke than I stay now. [...] As I said winters are very mild here. It's early July (mid winter) and I am wearing jeans and a shirt with just a woolen coat for going outside in the mornings. I probably won't even wear the coat at lunch time when I go outside. The coldest minimum temperature last year was 4C (39F) and probably the same this year so we do not even get below freezing. A 'cold' winter's day in Brisbane is around 15C (59F)- you might need a scarf as well as a jacket. Our forcast for today is 12-23C (53-72F) and is typical of a warmer winter's day. I live close to the coast but further inland they do get below freezing with some frosts. Sounds like rose growing heaven to me, at least from the standpoint of winter kill. Tell me, do your roses go dormant at all? If not, when do you prune? And have you heard that roses there have a shorter lifespan? I have heard somewhere that in places where they do not go dormant they do not last as long. Not sure it is true and very sure I don't understand it. Until I was 17 I had never seen snow. I still have not seen fresh snow because I saw my only snow in our alpine region during late spring. Even our 'alpine' region is zone 7 and is over a thousand kilometres from where I live. I keep saying some time I am going to take a holiday in winter and learn to ski! Snow here is a big holiday! We stay in and take off work and drink hot chocolate. Up in New York and similar colder places, when it snows and the snow accumulates they set their jaws and yank out the heavy machinery and salt trucks and such, and proceed on their way. They are very proud of this. I personally like staying home and drinking hot choc! When will it be safe to put your RT in the ground? We can compare notes on grafted/own root, US southeast, Australia/? Since our winter here is probably warmer than your spring :) I can plant all throughout winter. Our first bare root roses turn up at the end of autumn and are on sale until the end of winter. Once it gets to spring I think it is too hot to plant bare roots. We might be able to compare notes on heat-loving roses, then. Our summers start at the end of may and go through September, stay 85-110F. Some of my roses just shut down, and if they bloom at all the blooms are small and sad. I need fragrance, though. Seems like many of the ones that like heat are not fragrant. Besides minis, patio roses and some young cuttings, I do not have any roses on their own roots. All the roses I have seen on sale in my area are grafted - not counting minis and patio roses. There is a mail order nursery from Victoria that does do own roots but even then, it is only a small selection and they seem to be OGR rather than HTs or Austins. Sounds like you like the modern roses, as I do--although not exclusively. I like a few OGRs I have seen, but very few I have grown. It's all a matter of personal preference. I think both pale and vibrant roses have a place in my garden :) I like the subtelty of the pale flowers but then again it is the vibrant ones that catch your eye and make you go back for a second look. I like all the photos that I have seen of Crepuscule's canes covered in orangey/apricoty, floppy flowers. Yeah, me too. It photographs great! Sorry, this ended up much longer than I originally anticipated. Also I tried my best on the rough conversions from C to F but realise they will be a little out. Kirra, just the fact that you made the effort puts me--and most Americans--to shame. We were supposed to start learning metric and celsius 20 years ago, but not many but scientists even tried. Speaking of conversions, I wanted to try out the baking soda and oil spray but could only find recipees for gallon not litres. I checked a conversion page and it said that to times it by 3. I couldn't work out why it was recommending using 3 tablespoons of bi-carb to a litre of water! It just seemed to much so I went for Daniel's milk spray. Thankfully I did because I just found out that it was saying times a litre by three to get a gallon - I was supposed to divide the recipe by 3 to get a litre! My roses would have cooked for sure. For the future--check out the International rose-growing sections of Garden Web--I think there is one for Australians. You can ask questions there of others who may face the same puzzles. Kirra Brisbane, Australia zone 10 |
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s.com... On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:36:21 +1000, "Kirra" wrote: Ouch! Maybe you need to put stakes and ropes around it to ensure that it does not get mowed next time :) Done. But the mowing (which also took out a mini of great sentimental value, nameless as it was) is a good argument for Cass' habit (if I recall correctly) of keeping these baby ownroots in pots until they reach a reasonable or at least reasonably visible size. Or it may be an argument for doing own's own mowing, but that's just silly. g Do you think that the mini can grow back from the roots (presuming of course that it is own root)? I also don't do my own mowing but I do the washing and vacuuming in return. We can get potted roses all year round. Oooo. Imagine me looking at you with the slitty green eyes of envy. Hiss! On the other hand, if I could get potted roses year round I'd be even more broke than I stay now. I just bought around 55 roses (spread between 3 people) all potted over the last month. It is expensive but as my sister-in-law said, they have a head start and we'll get blooms sooner. They were in larger pots than from a hardware store anyway. As I said winters are very mild here. It's early July (mid winter) and I am wearing jeans and a shirt with just a woolen coat for going outside in the mornings. I probably won't even wear the coat at lunch time when I go outside. The coldest minimum temperature last year was 4C (39F) and probably the same this year so we do not even get below freezing. A 'cold' winter's day in Brisbane is around 15C (59F)- you might need a scarf as well as a jacket. Our forcast for today is 12-23C (53-72F) and is typical of a warmer winter's day. I live close to the coast but further inland they do get below freezing with some frosts. Sounds like rose growing heaven to me, at least from the standpoint of winter kill. Tell me, do your roses go dormant at all? If not, when do you prune? And have you heard that roses there have a shorter lifespan? I have heard somewhere that in places where they do not go dormant they do not last as long. Not sure it is true and very sure I don't understand it. Yep, no worry about frosts killing off any new growth - only forgeting to water and having them wilt! As to dormancy, this is my first winter with roses but the freesias (sunsprite) are currently in the middle of their biggest flush since last spring. I think the only dormancy they get is in the middle of summer when it is too hot! As to how long they will last - I guess I'll just have to wait and see. Snow here is a big holiday! We stay in and take off work and drink hot chocolate. Up in New York and similar colder places, when it snows and the snow accumulates they set their jaws and yank out the heavy machinery and salt trucks and such, and proceed on their way. They are very proud of this. I personally like staying home and drinking hot choc! We drink hot chocolate anyway! A colleague at work (from England) jokes that Brisbane is one of the coldest places in the world because there are not enough cold nights for any one to purchase heating. If it is 3C outside it is 3C inside :) We might be able to compare notes on heat-loving roses, then. Our summers start at the end of may and go through September, stay 85-110F. Some of my roses just shut down, and if they bloom at all the blooms are small and sad. I need fragrance, though. Seems like many of the ones that like heat are not fragrant. My iceburgs and freesias bloomed right through without too much of a break. Sometimes it seems that summer is from October to May. We got 30C (86F) one day in June this year! It is consistently hot from Novemeber through to March with temperatures mainly 23-34C (73-93) with a few days up in the high 30s (93-103F) with lots of humidity. Sounds like your summers are hotter than ours - is it very humid where you are as well? Sounds like you like the modern roses, as I do--although not exclusively. I like a few OGRs I have seen, but very few I have grown. It's all a matter of personal preference. Yes, I do like modern roses. A year ago I would have said I liked them exclusively. I did not even like Austins. But then after a while, I started seeing posts from people on this news group and both the OGR and austins have grown on me. Of the 55 roses we purchased it is almost split evenly between floribundas, hybrid teas, austins and OGR. Due to the humid conditions here, I also wanted to check out if the noisettes and teas are as disease resistant as claimed. Since they have only been in the ground for a day, I'll just have to wait and see. I think both pale and vibrant roses have a place in my garden :) I like the subtelty of the pale flowers but then again it is the vibrant ones that catch your eye and make you go back for a second look. I like all the photos that I have seen of Crepuscule's canes covered in orangey/apricoty, floppy flowers. Yeah, me too. It photographs great! Hopefully some day soon, I'll be the one taking the photographs. Sorry, this ended up much longer than I originally anticipated. Also I tried my best on the rough conversions from C to F but realise they will be a little out. Kirra, just the fact that you made the effort puts me--and most Americans--to shame. We were supposed to start learning metric and celsius 20 years ago, but not many but scientists even tried. People sometimes still use imperial, especially the older generation :) But seriously, it is often easier when refering to small dimension to say a couple of inches rather than 5cms. For the future--check out the International rose-growing sections of Garden Web--I think there is one for Australians. You can ask questions there of others who may face the same puzzles. I had a look and it had some interesting threads. Good to see that they mention some rose nurseries that I can actually order from! Kirra |
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