Hedge Rose for oklahoma city Zone 7
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I want to plant a hedge of roses . One will be on the east side of the house and the 2nd will be on the north side of the house. Both will be in full sun. Also our soil is clay soil. Any recommendations for a low maintainence aromatic plant? thanks in advance. |
Hedge Rose for oklahoma city Zone 7
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Hedge Rose for oklahoma city Zone 7
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Hedge Rose for oklahoma city Zone 7
"J. Del Col" wrote in message m... (Azar) wrote in message . com... Hi, I want to plant a hedge of roses . One will be on the east side of the house and the 2nd will be on the north side of the house. Both will be in full sun. Also our soil is clay soil. Any recommendations for a low maintainence aromatic plant? thanks in advance. Rugosas. They are vigorous, tough, thorny, and more or less everblooming, with flowers scented of cloves and other spices. They are low maintenance roses if ever there were any. Just one caution---don't spray them with pesticides or fungicides. They don't need it, and their leaves can be damaged by such sprays. J. Del Col Rugosas hate high heat combined with humidity. My most successful ones have afternoon shade here and still manage to look horribly ratty by August. If you are a true zone 7, then nothing beats the china roses for a hedge. Archduke Charles combines the health of an ordinary woody ornamental (no spraying whatsoever) with the twigginess of a good hedging plant, the constant bloom of an annual, and the scent of spicy honey. You may want to winter protect them the first year until they become established, but the chinas are also a lot more winter hardy than most books rate them to be. Plenty of folks grow them in a solid zone 6 with minimal dieback. You can get reasonably large plants from Chamblee's http://www.chambleeroses.com/ or much larger (and more expensive plants) from the Antique Rose Emporium http://www.antiqueroseemporium.com/ They also root rather easily, allowing you to perhaps purchase several plants to start your hedge and then you can make new plants of your own to extend it. Sunflower MS 7b |
Hedge Rose for oklahoma city Zone 7
Sorry Sunflower I have to disagree.
China's in my experience are not very drought or disease tolerant. Their twigginess can be a serious maintenance problem. Oklahama City despite its Zone 7 classification occasionally get 0 F frosts. This is a serious no no for a china. Anything below 20F causes kill almost to the crown/ground line leaving you this incredible tangled mess to clear. A much better bet would be Buck roses. Some grow rather large due to their laxa genes. Apple Jack in particular makes a nice drought resistant, super tough 4' high shrub. There are many others that perform similarly. You can get Buck roses from those same stores. -- Theo in KC Z5 If you are a true zone 7, then nothing beats the china roses for a hedge. Archduke Charles combines the health of an ordinary woody ornamental (no spraying whatsoever) with the twigginess of a good hedging plant, the constant bloom of an annual, and the scent of spicy honey. You may want to winter protect them the first year until they become established, but the chinas are also a lot more winter hardy than most books rate them to be. Plenty of folks grow them in a solid zone 6 with minimal dieback. You can get reasonably large plants from Chamblee's http://www.chambleeroses.com/ or much larger (and more expensive plants) from the Antique Rose Emporium http://www.antiqueroseemporium.com/ They also root rather easily, allowing you to perhaps purchase several plants to start your hedge and then you can make new plants of your own to extend it. |
Hedge Rose for oklahoma city Zone 7
"Theo" wrote in message s.com... Sorry Sunflower I have to disagree. China's in my experience are not very drought or disease tolerant. Their twigginess can be a serious maintenance problem. Oklahama City despite its Zone 7 classification occasionally get 0 F frosts. This is a serious no no for a china. Anything below 20F causes kill almost to the crown/ground line leaving you this incredible tangled mess to clear. A much better bet would be Buck roses. Some grow rather large due to their laxa genes. Apple Jack in particular makes a nice drought resistant, super tough 4' high shrub. There are many others that perform similarly. You can get Buck roses from those same stores. -- Theo in KC Z5 Theo, you're zone 5. Kaye in the Fort Smith hilly suburbs which is borderline 6/7 grows a LOT of different chinas quite successfully. Here's her photo album of them. http://www.picturetrails.com/gallery...529&uid=647794 Even here in my 7b, we had several weeks of below 20 weather this past winter and I had NO dieback whatsoever. I DO spray mine with WiltPruf to keep the winds from drying them out, as that is where most of the winter damage comes from. Chinas are a lot more winter hardy than most folks think they are. Ann Peck is growing a couple of dozen of them in the mountains of E. TN in a solid zone 6, and many more people in the PA and NY area also manage to grow them successfully. I NEVER spray mine for disease, and they never suffer more than 20% defoliation. I'm in an incredible swamp of a climate with humidity ranging from 80-100% in the summer and with temps in the 90's from May through September. Chinas thrive here. Their twiggines is an advantage in a hedging situation, and I've never found it to be any type of maintainace issue. I mostly just let them be what they want to be with very little pruning. But, if you're into a lot of shaping and hacking, you can prune them with hedge clippers, for goodness sake. :~) They're the nearest thing to a carefree rose that I've come across. I do like the Buck roses, especially his yellow and apricot ones like Prarie Sunrise and Prarie Harvest, and they *are* disease resistant. But, I think of them as individual specimen roses and not hedging roses. And, they cannot put out the sheer amount of blooms that any china will. I'm totally serious when I say there isn't a single moment from April through November when you can't find a blossom on Mutabilis, or Cramoisi Superieur, or Arethusa, or a dozen more. Sunflower MS 7b |
Hedge Rose for oklahoma city Zone 7
I do grow China's here.
The key word is they manage to grow them. Oklahoma is unfortunately not a swamp. We get the most interminable droughts here in midwest. Last year was particularly bad. Every free growing rose in my area died including the Dr Huey's!! I know my zone may be a bit colder but the climate patterns in Oklahoma City are very similar to KC. As a casual grower I doubt he wants to irrigate his rose hedge. As such my buck roses wilted but survived last years drought with a minimum of watering. While this winter was nasty in terms of weather it was actually quite warm. The lowest temp I measured near Hermosa was -2 F. Yet it is dead to 6" off the ground. And Hermosa is supposedly the toughest of the Cold hardy China's. And beleive me I'm not looking forward to clearing that mess. My Slaters Crimson has been a disappointment. It crisps completely as soon as the humidity dips below 15%. Something wrong with the vascular system of that one. damage comes from. Chinas are a lot more winter hardy than most folks think they are. Ann Peck is growing a couple of dozen of them in the mountains of E. TN in a solid zone 6, and many more people in the PA and NY area also manage to grow them successfully. I NEVER spray mine for disease, and they never suffer more than 20% defoliation. I'm in an incredible swamp of a climate with humidity ranging from 80-100% in the summer and with temps in the 90's from May through September. Chinas thrive here. Their twiggines is an advantage in a hedging situation, and I've never found it to be any type of maintainace issue. I mostly just let them be what they want to be with very little pruning. But, if you're into a lot of shaping and hacking, you can prune them with hedge clippers, for goodness sake. :~) They're the nearest thing to a carefree rose that I've come across. You know thats what I thought too. But You should have seen Pearlie Mae and Winter Sunset perform. Easily matched hermosa and old blush bloom for bloom ever though they are just one year old and 18" high. They have so much more sustance than the Chinas and don't burn when we get those scorching dry west winds. My chinas blooms are usually gone by noon time in our scorching summers. and then you have the ugly litter of scorched petal lying everywhere and blowing around. I seriously think Buck roses perform their best in our brutal summers. It may be they don't perform as well in other climates. -- Theo in KC Z5 I do like the Buck roses, especially his yellow and apricot ones like Prarie Sunrise and Prarie Harvest, and they *are* disease resistant. But, I think of them as individual specimen roses and not hedging roses. And, they cannot put out the sheer amount of blooms that any china will. I'm totally serious when I say there isn't a single moment from April through November when you can't find a blossom on Mutabilis, or Cramoisi Superieur, or Arethusa, or a dozen more. |
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