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go away winter...aarrrggghhhhh
I had to stop myself from going to the store to get my alfalfa meal, cotton
seed meal, fish oil, and epsom salts....if I got it, I'll be tempted to use it.......gotta wait another month.....aaarrrgghhhh.... ed in winston salem nc |
ed wrote: ....gotta wait another month.....aaarrrgghhhh.... Well, if it will make you feel any better, that first fertilizer application is a first week of May chore up here in tropical Minnesota. Two and a half months + for zone 4a and North. Regards, Charles -- Charles Perry Reply to: ** A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand ** |
"ed" wrote in message
m... I had to stop myself from going to the store to get my alfalfa meal, cotton seed meal, fish oil, and epsom salts....if I got it, I'll be tempted to use it.......gotta wait another month.....aaarrrgghhhh.... ed in winston salem nc Well, I've already bought my replacement roses for plants that died, but I'm leaving them in pots probably until March. I know the feeling - it's practically Spring around here! Gail near San Antonio TX Zone 8 |
how do you mix this - and it's really good for roses? I have so many rose
bushes around the property and would really love to make sure they live a good long time. Clancy "ed" wrote in message m... I had to stop myself from going to the store to get my alfalfa meal, cotton seed meal, fish oil, and epsom salts....if I got it, I'll be tempted to use it.......gotta wait another month.....aaarrrgghhhh.... ed in winston salem nc |
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:56:22 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: Well, I've already bought my replacement roses for plants that died, but I'm leaving them in pots probably until March. I know the feeling - it's practically Spring around here! Gail near San Antonio TX Zone 8 I'm ordering some of my replacements this weekend. That ice storm a few weeks ago did in quite a few rose bushes. The roses survived the ice itself with no problems, and it didn't get cold enough to jeopardize anything. But the freezing rain brought down a pine tree, which obliterated most of two rose beds when it fell. You can spray for pests and disease, but you can't spray for gravity... |
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:56:22 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: Well, I've already bought my replacement roses for plants that died, but I'm leaving them in pots probably until March. I know the feeling - it's practically Spring around here! Gail near San Antonio TX Zone 8 I'm ordering some of my replacements this weekend. That ice storm a few weeks ago did in quite a few rose bushes. The roses survived the ice itself with no problems, and it didn't get cold enough to jeopardize anything. But the freezing rain brought down a pine tree, which obliterated most of two rose beds when it fell. You can spray for pests and disease, but you can't spray for gravity... |
"clancy" wrote in message
... how do you mix this - and it's really good for roses? I have so many rose bushes around the property and would really love to make sure they live a good long time. Clancy "ed" wrote in message m... I had to stop myself from going to the store to get my alfalfa meal, cotton seed meal, fish oil, and epsom salts....if I got it, I'll be tempted to use it.......gotta wait another month.....aaarrrgghhhh.... ed in winston salem nc Everybody has different recipes, some use the alfalfa meal dry mixed into the soil, some mix it with water. I do alfalfa tea, which is basically 10-12 cups alfalfa pellets in 30 gallons of water (I use garbage cans), about a cup of Epsom salts, and I think about a half cup of chelated iron. Let it sit until it gets stinky (depends on weather), then put about 1 gallon on each plant. I put two gallons on climbers, less than a gal. on minis and small or new roses. That's twice a year, spring and fall. I have 150 roses and it takes time to get all the roses fed. In between I spray with seaweed and even use Peters or Miracle Gro. The beds get compost at least once a year, and that's an easy source of nutrients for roses. Gail near San Antonio TX USA Zone 8 |
"clancy" wrote in message
... how do you mix this - and it's really good for roses? I have so many rose bushes around the property and would really love to make sure they live a good long time. Clancy "ed" wrote in message m... I had to stop myself from going to the store to get my alfalfa meal, cotton seed meal, fish oil, and epsom salts....if I got it, I'll be tempted to use it.......gotta wait another month.....aaarrrgghhhh.... ed in winston salem nc Everybody has different recipes, some use the alfalfa meal dry mixed into the soil, some mix it with water. I do alfalfa tea, which is basically 10-12 cups alfalfa pellets in 30 gallons of water (I use garbage cans), about a cup of Epsom salts, and I think about a half cup of chelated iron. Let it sit until it gets stinky (depends on weather), then put about 1 gallon on each plant. I put two gallons on climbers, less than a gal. on minis and small or new roses. That's twice a year, spring and fall. I have 150 roses and it takes time to get all the roses fed. In between I spray with seaweed and even use Peters or Miracle Gro. The beds get compost at least once a year, and that's an easy source of nutrients for roses. Gail near San Antonio TX USA Zone 8 |
"torgo" wrote
I'm ordering some of my replacements this weekend. That ice storm a few weeks ago did in quite a few rose bushes. The roses survived the ice itself with no problems, and it didn't get cold enough to jeopardize anything. But the freezing rain brought down a pine tree, which obliterated most of two rose beds when it fell. Oh no! I do have one tree that might be a hazard to a rose arbor, but the rest of the roses are in an open area. We've had flooding that lasted for days but most of my roses are in raised beds and so far have survived. You can spray for pests and disease, but you can't spray for gravity... True, very true... Gail |
"torgo" wrote
I'm ordering some of my replacements this weekend. That ice storm a few weeks ago did in quite a few rose bushes. The roses survived the ice itself with no problems, and it didn't get cold enough to jeopardize anything. But the freezing rain brought down a pine tree, which obliterated most of two rose beds when it fell. Oh no! I do have one tree that might be a hazard to a rose arbor, but the rest of the roses are in an open area. We've had flooding that lasted for days but most of my roses are in raised beds and so far have survived. You can spray for pests and disease, but you can't spray for gravity... True, very true... Gail |
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:12:31 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: "clancy" wrote in message ... how do you mix this - and it's really good for roses? I have so many rose bushes around the property and would really love to make sure they live a good long time. Clancy "ed" wrote in message m... I had to stop myself from going to the store to get my alfalfa meal, cotton seed meal, fish oil, and epsom salts....if I got it, I'll be tempted to use it.......gotta wait another month.....aaarrrgghhhh.... ed in winston salem nc Everybody has different recipes, some use the alfalfa meal dry mixed into the soil, some mix it with water. I do alfalfa tea, which is basically 10-12 cups alfalfa pellets in 30 gallons of water (I use garbage cans), about a cup of Epsom salts, and I think about a half cup of chelated iron. Let it sit until it gets stinky (depends on weather), then put about 1 gallon on each plant. I put two gallons on climbers, less than a gal. on minis and small or new roses. That's twice a year, spring and fall. I have 150 roses and it takes time to get all the roses fed. In between I spray with seaweed and even use Peters or Miracle Gro. The beds get compost at least once a year, and that's an easy source of nutrients for roses. Gail near San Antonio TX USA Zone 8 I remember if it was Gail or Sunflower that got me started using Alfalfa a few years back, but I am definitely a believer. I do not use Epsom salts, or Iron because I have not had a professional soil test (only those cheap kits) and I water with well water that has a ph of 6.2(acid). At first I did much as Gail does, except, not with the precision she recommends. I simply dumped a couple gallons of Alfalfa pellets into a trash can, ran it about 2/3 full of water, put the lid on it and left it out side. At first the pellets sank in the water, then they swelled and floated, the second or third day they sank again and a thick foam formed on top, and a "bad" odor. Last year I simply mulched twice with the Alfalfa pelets. Over time they simply dissolve and blended in with the other mulch. (I would definitely recommend the first application be Tea though:) One CAUTION about Alfalfa pelets. There are some that have molasses added. The ones that are formulated for Rabbits and Horses. Make sure they are 100% Alfalfa. The Molasses will attract every kind of insect you can think of including ants and others. Have a good day: Rogerx |
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:12:31 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: "clancy" wrote in message ... how do you mix this - and it's really good for roses? I have so many rose bushes around the property and would really love to make sure they live a good long time. Clancy "ed" wrote in message m... I had to stop myself from going to the store to get my alfalfa meal, cotton seed meal, fish oil, and epsom salts....if I got it, I'll be tempted to use it.......gotta wait another month.....aaarrrgghhhh.... ed in winston salem nc Everybody has different recipes, some use the alfalfa meal dry mixed into the soil, some mix it with water. I do alfalfa tea, which is basically 10-12 cups alfalfa pellets in 30 gallons of water (I use garbage cans), about a cup of Epsom salts, and I think about a half cup of chelated iron. Let it sit until it gets stinky (depends on weather), then put about 1 gallon on each plant. I put two gallons on climbers, less than a gal. on minis and small or new roses. That's twice a year, spring and fall. I have 150 roses and it takes time to get all the roses fed. In between I spray with seaweed and even use Peters or Miracle Gro. The beds get compost at least once a year, and that's an easy source of nutrients for roses. Gail near San Antonio TX USA Zone 8 I remember if it was Gail or Sunflower that got me started using Alfalfa a few years back, but I am definitely a believer. I do not use Epsom salts, or Iron because I have not had a professional soil test (only those cheap kits) and I water with well water that has a ph of 6.2(acid). At first I did much as Gail does, except, not with the precision she recommends. I simply dumped a couple gallons of Alfalfa pellets into a trash can, ran it about 2/3 full of water, put the lid on it and left it out side. At first the pellets sank in the water, then they swelled and floated, the second or third day they sank again and a thick foam formed on top, and a "bad" odor. Last year I simply mulched twice with the Alfalfa pelets. Over time they simply dissolve and blended in with the other mulch. (I would definitely recommend the first application be Tea though:) One CAUTION about Alfalfa pelets. There are some that have molasses added. The ones that are formulated for Rabbits and Horses. Make sure they are 100% Alfalfa. The Molasses will attract every kind of insect you can think of including ants and others. Have a good day: Rogerx |
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:12:31 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote: "clancy" wrote in message ... how do you mix this - and it's really good for roses? I have so many rose bushes around the property and would really love to make sure they live a good long time. Clancy "ed" wrote in message m... I had to stop myself from going to the store to get my alfalfa meal, cotton seed meal, fish oil, and epsom salts....if I got it, I'll be tempted to use it.......gotta wait another month.....aaarrrgghhhh.... ed in winston salem nc Everybody has different recipes, some use the alfalfa meal dry mixed into the soil, some mix it with water. I do alfalfa tea, which is basically 10-12 cups alfalfa pellets in 30 gallons of water (I use garbage cans), about a cup of Epsom salts, and I think about a half cup of chelated iron. Let it sit until it gets stinky (depends on weather), then put about 1 gallon on each plant. I put two gallons on climbers, less than a gal. on minis and small or new roses. That's twice a year, spring and fall. I have 150 roses and it takes time to get all the roses fed. In between I spray with seaweed and even use Peters or Miracle Gro. The beds get compost at least once a year, and that's an easy source of nutrients for roses. Gail near San Antonio TX USA Zone 8 I remember if it was Gail or Sunflower that got me started using Alfalfa a few years back, but I am definitely a believer. I do not use Epsom salts, or Iron because I have not had a professional soil test (only those cheap kits) and I water with well water that has a ph of 6.2(acid). At first I did much as Gail does, except, not with the precision she recommends. I simply dumped a couple gallons of Alfalfa pellets into a trash can, ran it about 2/3 full of water, put the lid on it and left it out side. At first the pellets sank in the water, then they swelled and floated, the second or third day they sank again and a thick foam formed on top, and a "bad" odor. Last year I simply mulched twice with the Alfalfa pelets. Over time they simply dissolve and blended in with the other mulch. (I would definitely recommend the first application be Tea though:) One CAUTION about Alfalfa pelets. There are some that have molasses added. The ones that are formulated for Rabbits and Horses. Make sure they are 100% Alfalfa. The Molasses will attract every kind of insect you can think of including ants and others. Have a good day: Rogerx |
"Rogerx" wrote in message ... Last year I simply mulched twice with the Alfalfa pelets. Over time they simply dissolve and blended in with the other mulch. (I would definitely recommend the first application be Tea though:) One CAUTION about Alfalfa pelets. There are some that have molasses added. The ones that are formulated for Rabbits and Horses. Make sure they are 100% Alfalfa. The Molasses will attract every kind of insect you can think of including ants and others. Have a good day: Rogerx Does this work with Alfalfa meal also? I have tons of the meal but I haven't bought pellets. I would think it would be the same thing? JimS. Seattle |
"Rogerx" wrote in message ... Last year I simply mulched twice with the Alfalfa pelets. Over time they simply dissolve and blended in with the other mulch. (I would definitely recommend the first application be Tea though:) One CAUTION about Alfalfa pelets. There are some that have molasses added. The ones that are formulated for Rabbits and Horses. Make sure they are 100% Alfalfa. The Molasses will attract every kind of insect you can think of including ants and others. Have a good day: Rogerx Does this work with Alfalfa meal also? I have tons of the meal but I haven't bought pellets. I would think it would be the same thing? JimS. Seattle |
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