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UK farm profitability to jun 2002
"David G. Bell" wrote in message .. . On Friday, in article But you're only worth six feet of English soil, and as much more as you may be taller than other men. I suspect that the danes no longer remember a Norse King, -- Jim Webster "The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind" 'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami' -- David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger. "Let me get this straight. You're the KGB's core AI, but you're afraid of a copyright infringement lawsuit over your translator semiotics?" From "Lobsters" by Charles Stross. |
UK farm profitability to jun 2002
""David G. Bell"" wrote in message
.. . Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it. The *only* thing my 'farm management' lecturer taught me at college was .... "If I had as much hindsight as foresight, then I'd be better by a darned sight" -- J B |
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:33:23 -0600, "Gordon Couger"
wrote: "Torsten Brinch" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:23:24 -0600, "Gordon Couger" wrote: If your governments are going to tie your farmers hands so he can't make a profit they are pretty much obliged to keep him in business But our governments are not tying farmers hands so they can't make a profit! .. I will point out a few places that they are reaching deep in the farmers purse. Gordon points to a few of his usual suspects Britain's farmers receive about £3 billion UKP in direct subsidies and pricing support each year. Match that, if you can. If you are gong to pay the farmer get something you can use out of him. I think you mean get -more- out of him for the money. But what? You don't seem to care what WTO things anyway Take those idle acres and put them to something you need. Sorry, we can't do it if WTO says it is wrong. Commitments, you know. Maybe you should close him down and put is stuff on display and pay him a curator and by all you food from the low bidder. Yes. -That- would be according to WTO rules, afaik. |
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Torsten Brinch wrote in message ... On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:33:23 -0600, "Gordon Couger" wrote: "Torsten Brinch" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:23:24 -0600, "Gordon Couger" wrote: If your governments are going to tie your farmers hands so he can't make a profit they are pretty much obliged to keep him in business But our governments are not tying farmers hands so they can't make a profit! .. I will point out a few places that they are reaching deep in the farmers purse. Gordon points to a few of his usual suspects Britain's farmers receive about £3 billion UKP in direct subsidies and pricing support each year. Match that, if you can. I think that you are a little behind in your understanding of recent US agriculture policy -- Jim Webster "The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind" 'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami' |
UK farm profitability to jun 2002
In article ,
says... On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 22:14:20 -0000, David P wrote: you were impling that the people who were still farming were short-sighted. I was not. snipped the rest, all written under that misconception Shame. I thought you might take the time to explain yourself. -- David Visit http://www.farm-direct.co.uk for your local farmgate food supplies. FAQ's, Glossary, Farming Year and more! |
UK farm profitability to jun 2002
In article , David P
writes you were impling that the people who were still farming were short-sighted. I was not. snipped the rest, all written under that misconception Shame. I thought you might take the time to explain yourself. As things are getting a bit boring in here, perhaps we could extend this discussion to include land tenure? I happen to know that Torsten has strongly held, if slightly wacky, views on the subject. Now if about six of us took him on .... :-) regards -- Tim Lamb |
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In article ,
says... In article , David P writes you were impling that the people who were still farming were short-sighted. I was not. snipped the rest, all written under that misconception Shame. I thought you might take the time to explain yourself. As things are getting a bit boring in here, perhaps we could extend this discussion to include land tenure? I happen to know that Torsten has strongly held, if slightly wacky, views on the subject. I believe I had noticed that. Pity he dropped out; I had planned on asking him what a tenant farmer should have done once I was clear on what his views on an owner-occupier was. Now if about six of us took him on .... :-) Ok - Jim can hold him while the other 5 hit him; or should that be t'other way round?g -- David Visit http://www.farm-direct.co.uk for your local farmgate food supplies. FAQ's, Glossary, Farming Year and more! |
UK farm profitability to jun 2002
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 19:44:39 -0000, David P
wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 22:14:20 -0000, David P wrote: you were impling that the people who were still farming were short-sighted. I was not. snipped the rest, all written under that misconception Shame. I thought you might take the time to explain yourself. Try with a proper question. |
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 15:57:19 -0600, "Gordon Couger"
wrote: You don't seem to care what WTO things anyway Take those idle acres and put them to something you need. Sorry, we can't do it if WTO says it is wrong. Commitments, you know. You don't seem to give a damn about living up WTO rulings on beef in for a penny in for a pound. Which WTO ruling are you thinking of? |
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 21:51:22 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote: In article , David P writes you were impling that the people who were still farming were short-sighted. I was not. snipped the rest, all written under that misconception Shame. I thought you might take the time to explain yourself. As things are getting a bit boring in here, perhaps we could extend this discussion to include land tenure? No, first things first, Tim. First we must out what it is David P has misunderstood. |
UK farm profitability to jun 2002
On Saturday, in article
"David P" wrote: In article , says... In article , David P writes you were impling that the people who were still farming were short-sighted. I was not. snipped the rest, all written under that misconception Shame. I thought you might take the time to explain yourself. As things are getting a bit boring in here, perhaps we could extend this discussion to include land tenure? I happen to know that Torsten has strongly held, if slightly wacky, views on the subject. I believe I had noticed that. Pity he dropped out; I had planned on asking him what a tenant farmer should have done once I was clear on what his views on an owner-occupier was. Now if about six of us took him on .... :-) Ok - Jim can hold him while the other 5 hit him; or should that be t'other way round?g Well, I just have to grease the left ankle torsion actuator bushes on this Gundam, stuff the blonde wig in the tumble drier, and check the cockpit fan.... -- David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger. "Let me get this straight. You're the KGB's core AI, but you're afraid of a copyright infringement lawsuit over your translator semiotics?" From "Lobsters" by Charles Stross. |
UK farm profitability to jun 2002
Gordon Couger wrote in message ... If they don't feel they need farmers why are they subsiding them? here you confuse the EU and UK. Whenever there is a voluntary scheme, the UK does not pay out on it, if the EU allow an extra top up if a national government deems it necessary, the UK government doesn't deem it necessary. Love them or loathe them, If it wasn't for the EU there probably would not be organised agriculture in the UK any more, a handful of really big cereal operations and a lot of part time "ranching" of cattle and sheep at no input stocking rates. -- Jim Webster "The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind" 'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami' Gordon |
UK farm profitability to jun 2002
"David G. Bell" wrote in message .. . On Saturday, in article Well, I just have to grease the left ankle torsion actuator bushes on this Gundam, stuff the blonde wig in the tumble drier, and check the cockpit fan.... the only military system ever designed so that the pilot in his cockpit could smile at his girl in the control tower as he took off. -- Jim Webster "The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind" 'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami' -- David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger. "Let me get this straight. You're the KGB's core AI, but you're afraid of a copyright infringement lawsuit over your translator semiotics?" From "Lobsters" by Charles Stross. |
UK farm profitability to jun 2002
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 19:52:41 -0600, "Gordon Couger"
wrote: "Torsten Brinch" wrote in message Which WTO ruling are you thinking of? The one on US beef. There is a ruling that the beef hormone ban must be based on a risk assessment, if that is what you are thunking of -- but the ban is rather obviously based on a risk assessment. Indeed, on the thread *EU confirms growth hormones pose health risk to consumers* we discussed the most recent EU risk assessment in support of the ban, on sci.agriculture only six months ago. |
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