Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
#21
|
|||
|
|||
BST MILK and Ordinary MILK Indistinquishable? Not Really.
Moosh:] writes
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 08:35:11 +0100, Oz wrote: Moosh:] writes I didn't realise they were significantly different. Thanks. How do you explain the marked increase in autoimmune diseases lately? As well as food allergies and asthma like allergies? That was explained (although more info is required for proof) by the un- naturally hygienic living conditions of the first world (and a lesser extent the second). Yep, I understand this, but I was wondering how your contention about the different bacteria/virus pathways fitted into this. I'd just assumed that lack of any immune challenges led to an immune system with "idle hands". That's certainly one way to put it. Modern hygiene clears up viri as much as bacteria. Yes, but given little to do the viral one dominates. I wonder why. probably because the systems evolved in a situation where bacteria dominate. So why would the viral one dominate? Sorry for being dense, I was force-fed pasteurised milk as a child Because for a billion years of evolution bacterial challenge was forever dominant. So when you have a see-saw, best to bias it away from the direction it is pushed, I would guess. Certainly in evolutionary terms it's very very recent that man lived in large (say 2000+) closely packed groups with good communication between groups. Within the groups, surely. Ten to 30 k anni? Eh? I would thus imagine that new viral attacks were very rare (and probably pretty devastating). Well they still are in modern times. Flu and small pox to name just two. They are probably predominant in modern times. Bacterial attack being squashed with antibiotics. Remember a lot of flu (eg 'common cold' and gastroenteritis is viral today. Typically the local endemic viruses would have all been encountered in childhood. Bacterial challenge, though, would continue throughout life. Well I still get regular (but seldom) colds and flu, how about you? Yes, but I probably get mild bacterial infections of the gut every couple of weeks, and for sure when walking and working in cow slurry I must be getting a substantial bacterial challenge. Remember that a challenge that is 'dealt with' is still a challenge and the immune response is triggered even if no serious (or even observable) illness results. But at least one with relevant sensitivities would be better, if the bacterial infection is routinely expected. This is typically the case in young animals with clinical viral disease. Prophylactic antibiotics for likely bacterial secondary infections. This is what some doctors do for susceptible patients with viral URTIs. They used to do it routinely when I was younger. They have seen the light. I have actually told an older quack that I didn't want his script for antibiotics if all I had was a virus. All I wanted from him was confirmation that I didn't have anything eminently treatable. Oh, and a certificate for work I didn't have you down as a young animal. -- Oz This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious. Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted. |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
Cleaning vinyl siding - not ordinary "stain" | Lawns | |||
Really, really O/T - you're back | Ponds | |||
Really really sandy soil | United Kingdom | |||
Ground Ivy REALLY, REALLY bad this year... | Gardening | |||
Glue really really really works? | Ponds |