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Paying to find non-GE wild corn?
Moosh:] wrote:
On 29 Jul 2003 23:31:37 GMT, Brian Sandle posted: Moosh:] wrote: On 22 Jul 2003 12:45:08 GMT, Brian Sandle wrote: To my knowledge they only test people with protein that they expect the GM plant to make. The actual plant could have the engineered promoters switching on other genes, causing troubles you would not be looking for. And do they look for unintended effects from mutations and cross pollinating? Possibly not as thoroughly as they ought. But those are not being applied to such a wide sector of people as RR & Bt stuff, which goes to nearly everyone in North America. Mutations and cross pollinations go on constantly every minute in every corn field in the world. As I skimmed last article the living cell has tremendous discrimination. It constantly controls repair of the faulty DNA replication. But it may be defeated when too many or too clever stresses are applied, that it is not used to dealing with. When the tryptophan from GE sources killed some people it might not have been discovered if the symptoms were similar to some other lethal but fairly common disease. But that tryptophan affair was nothing to do with GE. If the govt thought that lack of purification could cause such a terrible thing what have they done about preventing future such things? Applied factory/product safety regulations? Maybe they are starting some standards for alternative products now, as we see with a first recall in Australia. But if purity troubles alone could cause so many deaths with that one product and there being such a lax approach and so many many products I would have thought much more trouble would have been evident from purity considerations alone. It must have been more that purity, or else purity testing would have been brought in for everything much earlier. Linkname: The Thalidomide of Genetic Engineering URL: http://www.i-sis.org.uk/tryptophan.php size: 199 lines Linkname: Speech by Jeanette Fitzsimons in Urgent debate on GE decision - 30OCT2001 URL: http://www.ecoglobe.org.nz/ge-news/rcgm1o30.htm size: 258 lines The Royal Commission has been lauded by some as balanced, thorough, informed, and many other plaudits. This was the same Royal Commission which told the representative of oneorganisation, before they had even made their presentation, that the Commission had already made their decision and it would be the Great NZ compromise. The same organisation, after handing in their written submission much earlier, found there was an error and asked to correct it. They were told it didn't matter as "no-one was going to read it anyway". In fact the Commission disregarded a great deal of evidence which did not support its conclusions and made numerous errors of fact - for example in its reporting and assessment of evidence about the poisoning of thousands by GE tryptophan Sounds like grasping at straws -- after their key witness a few years ago was charged with falsifying evidence? The tryptophan poisoning had nothing to do with GE. Linkname: The Thalidomide of Genetic Engineering URL: http://www.i-sis.org.uk/tryptophan.php size: 209 lines [...] Those who search the Internet on this topic will soon discover the claim by apologists for GE that the problem was only decreased purification of tryptophan. We disagree for several reasons - mainly, the first 3 GE strains had been causing EMS (about 100 cases) for years before this slackening of purification procedure in Jan 1989 when also the 'superproducer' strain went into production and caused the epidemic. But this question cannot be settled with finality unless Showa Denko releases the GE microbes for detailed examination. Whether you believe the impurities were due to incompetent purification & monitoring, or to deviant metabolism in the GE-bugs, or both, you had better believe that the fabled 'substantially equivalent' assumption flopped in that epidemic of crippling & lethal illness. Although GE proponents claim that the EMS epidemic was caused solely by faulty filtering, it is possible to question their seriousness. None of them has publicly argued that the Health Food supplement industry should be subject to legal controls for purity & efficacy comparable to those applied to the pharmaceutical industry; yet this would be logical if indeed such a deadly epidemic occurred solely as a result of inadequate purification in manufacturing. Either way, biotechnology - which includes GE but also includes other processes such as purifying the mixture "lyprinol" from green-lipped mussels - requires much-enhanced scrutiny. [...] I can list several cases of food stuffs that case harm bred with conventional methods an you can't list a single one with GM methods. They get withdrawn if they cause trouble that is plain obvious. Just like foods from plant mutations and cross-pollinating, only these are more likely Who is doing studies comparing recent health changes in countries with GM food compared to countries with non-GM? Who is ready for what may show up in the next generation? Health is always being monitored by hundreds of thousands of health professionals. Have you got ANY evidence of any problems? I rely on what is allowed to be published. I note how the cigarette and asbestos industries were aware of the risks of their products though kept them covered. |
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