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MrClean 23-07-2007 02:57 AM

Please help ID these "vines"
 
Can someone ID these "vines" growing on the fence in
my backyard. They have also begun to spring up in patches
in the middle of the yard.

Since this is not a binaries group and they frown on attachments,
here are links to photos of the culprits:

http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0475.jpg
http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0476.jpg

cat daddy 23-07-2007 03:33 AM

Please help ID these "vines"
 

"MrClean" wrote in message
...
Can someone ID these "vines" growing on the fence in
my backyard. They have also begun to spring up in patches
in the middle of the yard.

Since this is not a binaries group and they frown on attachments,
here are links to photos of the culprits:

http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0475.jpg
http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0476.jpg


Virginia Creeper

http://www.agriculture.purdue.edu/fn...vrtrail08.html
scroll down, looks exactly like your photo



Treedweller 23-07-2007 03:33 AM

Please help ID these "vines"
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:57:37 -0500, MrClean wrote:

Can someone ID these "vines" growing on the fence in
my backyard. They have also begun to spring up in patches
in the middle of the yard.

Since this is not a binaries group and they frown on attachments,
here are links to photos of the culprits:

http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0475.jpg
http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0476.jpg


Virginia Creeper (Parthenocissus quinquefolia)
http://njaes.rutgers.edu/weeds/weed.asp?virginiacreeper

cat daddy 23-07-2007 06:27 AM

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"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
Three answers all posted within the same minute! Weird.


9:33:04 - moi
9:33:29 - Treedweller
9:33:58 - you

I gave you guys a half hour head start........ but had to look it up, and
cross-reference, and get distracted, as I didn't know what it was, either.





Omelet 23-07-2007 10:22 AM

Please help ID these "vines"
 
In article ,
MrClean wrote:

Can someone ID these "vines" growing on the fence in
my backyard. They have also begun to spring up in patches
in the middle of the yard.

Since this is not a binaries group and they frown on attachments,
here are links to photos of the culprits:

http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0475.jpg
http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0476.jpg


Looks like Virginia Creeper. I'm jealous! I bought one from the nursery
as it's supposed to be a good shade grower, but have not managed to get
it going.
--
Peace, Om

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suzilem 23-07-2007 12:54 PM

Please help ID these "vines"
 

"Omelet" wrote in message
...
In article ,
MrClean wrote:

Can someone ID these "vines" growing on the fence in
my backyard. They have also begun to spring up in patches
in the middle of the yard.

Since this is not a binaries group and they frown on attachments,
here are links to photos of the culprits:

http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0475.jpg
http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0476.jpg


Looks like Virginia Creeper. I'm jealous! I bought one from the nursery
as it's supposed to be a good shade grower, but have not managed to get
it going.


I have at least three growing near my front porch, and I haven't been able
to erradicate them! I've even dug up root balls three years in a row.
Within a couple of weeks, they're baaaack!

If you'd like to visit Leander with a shovel, you're welcome to retrieve as
many chunks-o-specimen as you'd like. :-)



[email protected] 23-07-2007 03:28 PM

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On Jul 23, 6:54 am, "suzilem"
wrote:


I have at least three growing near my front porch, and I haven't been able
to erradicate them! I've even dug up root balls three years in a row.
Within a couple of weeks, they're baaaack!


"Roundup for Woody Plants". Get the stuff that's ready to spray and
dose liberally on a warm dry day. The stuff worked on a pyracantha I
despised (Oops sorry dear, I have no idea why THAT died!) as well as
the V.Creeper, the poison ivy.

It'll kill pretty much everything it touches - faster or slower
depending on how much or little you apply. Cover with plastic
anything in the vicinity you want to keep. You can remove the plastic
once the Roundup dries.


cat daddy 23-07-2007 05:49 PM

Please help ID these "vines"
 

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:27:05 -0500, cat daddy wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
Three answers all posted within the same minute! Weird.


9:33:04 - moi
9:33:29 - Treedweller
9:33:58 - you

I gave you guys a half hour head start........ but had to look it up,

and
cross-reference, and get distracted, as I didn't know what it was,

either.

I knew what it was right away, but then I wasted 55 seconds
trying to find a good reference - then I figured he cold look it
up for himself :-P


I was about to do the same, but was struck by the similarity of the
photos and went back to grab the link, after looking at a bunch of other
stuff.

Omelet - 4:22AM......... hehe... loser... }:-)



Omelet 23-07-2007 05:53 PM

Please help ID these "vines"
 
In article ,
"suzilem" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
...
In article ,
MrClean wrote:

Can someone ID these "vines" growing on the fence in
my backyard. They have also begun to spring up in patches
in the middle of the yard.

Since this is not a binaries group and they frown on attachments,
here are links to photos of the culprits:

http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0475.jpg
http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0476.jpg


Looks like Virginia Creeper. I'm jealous! I bought one from the nursery
as it's supposed to be a good shade grower, but have not managed to get
it going.


I have at least three growing near my front porch, and I haven't been able
to erradicate them! I've even dug up root balls three years in a row.
Within a couple of weeks, they're baaaack!

If you'd like to visit Leander with a shovel, you're welcome to retrieve as
many chunks-o-specimen as you'd like. :-)


:-)
If I could ever find the time, I would.
I'd be happy to pay you for a live root ball...

Since you can't eradicated it, try potting it and selling it. I've taken
plant propagates and traded them at the nurseries for other plants that
I've wanted. Many are amenable to doing that.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

Omelet 23-07-2007 08:00 PM

Please help ID these "vines"
 
In article ,
"cat daddy" wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:27:05 -0500, cat daddy wrote:

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
...
Three answers all posted within the same minute! Weird.

9:33:04 - moi
9:33:29 - Treedweller
9:33:58 - you

I gave you guys a half hour head start........ but had to look it up,

and
cross-reference, and get distracted, as I didn't know what it was,

either.

I knew what it was right away, but then I wasted 55 seconds
trying to find a good reference - then I figured he cold look it
up for himself :-P


I was about to do the same, but was struck by the similarity of the
photos and went back to grab the link, after looking at a bunch of other
stuff.

Omelet - 4:22AM......... hehe... loser... }:-)


I overslept. ;-)
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

suzilem 24-07-2007 01:24 AM

Please help ID these "vines"
 

"Omelet" wrote in message
...

Looks like Virginia Creeper. I'm jealous! I bought one from the

nursery
as it's supposed to be a good shade grower, but have not managed to

get
it going.


I have at least three growing near my front porch, and I haven't been

able
to erradicate them! I've even dug up root balls three years in a row.
Within a couple of weeks, they're baaaack!

If you'd like to visit Leander with a shovel, you're welcome to retrieve

as
many chunks-o-specimen as you'd like. :-)


:-)
If I could ever find the time, I would.
I'd be happy to pay you for a live root ball...

Since you can't eradicated it, try potting it and selling it. I've taken
plant propagates and traded them at the nurseries for other plants that
I've wanted. Many are amenable to doing that.


I have a plan. :-)

The three in the flower bed, I'll take the suggestion upthead (thanks!) and
liberally dose with the RoundUp. The one around the other corner of the
porch, I'll just keep pulling up by the roots (it's presence doesn't annoy
me as much) and you can come retrieve its tenacious root ball (free! no
charge!) if you ever have the time. :-)



B. Server 24-07-2007 05:35 AM

Please help ID these "vines"
 
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:33:58 -0500, Steve Wertz
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:57:37 -0500, MrClean wrote:

Can someone ID these "vines" growing on the fence in
my backyard. They have also begun to spring up in patches
in the middle of the yard.

Since this is not a binaries group and they frown on attachments,
here are links to photos of the culprits:

http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0475.jpg
http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0476.jpg


Virgina Creeper. Ugly, but harmless to humans. Chokes out
everything else though.

-sw


But very pretty fall color. Richer reds than most any local oaks.

(in someone elses yard..)

-BS

Omelet 24-07-2007 02:10 PM

Please help ID these "vines"
 
In article ,
"suzilem" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
...

Looks like Virginia Creeper. I'm jealous! I bought one from the

nursery
as it's supposed to be a good shade grower, but have not managed to

get
it going.

I have at least three growing near my front porch, and I haven't been

able
to erradicate them! I've even dug up root balls three years in a row.
Within a couple of weeks, they're baaaack!

If you'd like to visit Leander with a shovel, you're welcome to retrieve

as
many chunks-o-specimen as you'd like. :-)


:-)
If I could ever find the time, I would.
I'd be happy to pay you for a live root ball...

Since you can't eradicated it, try potting it and selling it. I've taken
plant propagates and traded them at the nurseries for other plants that
I've wanted. Many are amenable to doing that.


I have a plan. :-)

The three in the flower bed, I'll take the suggestion upthead (thanks!) and
liberally dose with the RoundUp. The one around the other corner of the
porch, I'll just keep pulling up by the roots (it's presence doesn't annoy
me as much) and you can come retrieve its tenacious root ball (free! no
charge!) if you ever have the time. :-)


Where is Leander in reference to San Marcos?

Before you eradicate it, I paid $3.00 for a 4" pot of that vine at a
local nursery...
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

Omelet 24-07-2007 02:11 PM

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In article ,
B. Server wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:33:58 -0500, Steve Wertz
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:57:37 -0500, MrClean wrote:

Can someone ID these "vines" growing on the fence in
my backyard. They have also begun to spring up in patches
in the middle of the yard.

Since this is not a binaries group and they frown on attachments,
here are links to photos of the culprits:

http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0475.jpg
http://www.theshipmanfamily.com/100_0476.jpg


Virgina Creeper. Ugly, but harmless to humans. Chokes out
everything else though.

-sw


But very pretty fall color. Richer reds than most any local oaks.

(in someone elses yard..)

-BS


I don't find Virginia Creeper to be ugly at all. The leaf shape is very
pleasing to the eye.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

Omelet 24-07-2007 03:59 PM

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In article ,
Steve Wertz wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:11:22 -0500, Omelet wrote:

I don't find Virginia Creeper to be ugly at all. The leaf shape is very
pleasing to the eye.


In the right spot, and evenly distributed, it can be nice. But I
think most of the patches I see are unwanted and random. Plus I
think there are much better looking ivies if it's an intended
decoration.

Just my $.02.

-sw


Right now I have honeysuckle but it's getting choked out by the mustang
grapes. We mercilessly pruned those last weekend.

I also have asian jasmine and english ivy.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

[email protected] 24-07-2007 05:43 PM

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On Jul 24, 8:10 am, Omelet wrote:

Where is Leander in reference to San Marcos?


Leander is a suburb of Lampasas. Get on 183 and head north. Pack a
lunch and take a can of gas. Mind the toll road and don't get
suckered in - the last free exit is poorly marked AND the toll road
doesn't go anywhere near Leander, it heads off toward P'ville...


Omelet 24-07-2007 06:20 PM

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In article . com,
" wrote:

On Jul 24, 8:10 am, Omelet wrote:

Where is Leander in reference to San Marcos?


Leander is a suburb of Lampasas. Get on 183 and head north. Pack a
lunch and take a can of gas. Mind the toll road and don't get
suckered in - the last free exit is poorly marked AND the toll road
doesn't go anywhere near Leander, it heads off toward P'ville...


Damn. I'm horribly navigationally challenged. (IOW I get lost easily!).

Any chance I could just pay for postage for a root ball? ;-)
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

[email protected] 24-07-2007 06:35 PM

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On Jul 24, 12:20 pm, Omelet wrote:


Any chance I could just pay for postage for a root ball? ;-)


Send Wooly an email with your mailing address. She has a couple of
VCs out back that seem unkillable, one will surely survive the trip.


Omelet 24-07-2007 07:14 PM

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In article . com,
" wrote:

On Jul 24, 12:20 pm, Omelet wrote:


Any chance I could just pay for postage for a root ball? ;-)


Send Wooly an email with your mailing address. She has a couple of
VCs out back that seem unkillable, one will surely survive the trip.


lol And I could probably do some trading with her for catnip, or some
other vines!


OTOH, dead presidents work for me too... (aka, cash).

Hopefully, she will respond. If not, I have her private e-mail.
--
Peace, Om

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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

suzilem 25-07-2007 01:48 AM

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"Omelet" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
" wrote:

On Jul 24, 8:10 am, Omelet wrote:

Where is Leander in reference to San Marcos?


Leander is a suburb of Lampasas. Get on 183 and head north. Pack a
lunch and take a can of gas. Mind the toll road and don't get
suckered in - the last free exit is poorly marked AND the toll road
doesn't go anywhere near Leander, it heads off toward P'ville...


Damn. I'm horribly navigationally challenged. (IOW I get lost easily!).

Any chance I could just pay for postage for a root ball? ;-)


me thinks he doth exaggerate just a mite.... :-)

Leander is 25.4 miles north(ish)/northwest(ish) of downtown Austin. On the
weekend (i.e., no traffic), it takes me about 30 minutes to get downtown.
During the week, unless traffic is absolutely horrendous, it takes me 45-60
minutes. So, if you know how long it takes you to get to downtown Austin
from San Marcos, you can estimate.

And yes, you can get sucked into the tollroad (183A version) at 620 and 183.
But that's no where near Pflugerville (unless the reference was to a
different P'ville). 183A goes right through the northern edge of Leander,
and I live halfway between 183A and 183 (about 1/4 mile from each).

Unfortunately, my torn meniscus won't let me dig up root balls. :-( Which
is one reason this summer that they are unusually vibrant, healthy,
thriving, and attempting to grow up the pillars of my porch from which I
ruthlessly rip them every couple of weeks. :-) If you think you might want
to attempt to rescue them, I'll hold off applying the RoundUp for a while.
I'll just stand in my doorway and point the bottle threateningly in the
direction of the flower bed.



Omelet 25-07-2007 06:56 PM

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In article ,
"suzilem" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
" wrote:

On Jul 24, 8:10 am, Omelet wrote:

Where is Leander in reference to San Marcos?

Leander is a suburb of Lampasas. Get on 183 and head north. Pack a
lunch and take a can of gas. Mind the toll road and don't get
suckered in - the last free exit is poorly marked AND the toll road
doesn't go anywhere near Leander, it heads off toward P'ville...


Damn. I'm horribly navigationally challenged. (IOW I get lost easily!).

Any chance I could just pay for postage for a root ball? ;-)


me thinks he doth exaggerate just a mite.... :-)

Leander is 25.4 miles north(ish)/northwest(ish) of downtown Austin. On the
weekend (i.e., no traffic), it takes me about 30 minutes to get downtown.
During the week, unless traffic is absolutely horrendous, it takes me 45-60
minutes. So, if you know how long it takes you to get to downtown Austin
from San Marcos, you can estimate.

And yes, you can get sucked into the tollroad (183A version) at 620 and 183.
But that's no where near Pflugerville (unless the reference was to a
different P'ville). 183A goes right through the northern edge of Leander,
and I live halfway between 183A and 183 (about 1/4 mile from each).

Unfortunately, my torn meniscus won't let me dig up root balls. :-( Which
is one reason this summer that they are unusually vibrant, healthy,
thriving, and attempting to grow up the pillars of my porch from which I
ruthlessly rip them every couple of weeks. :-) If you think you might want
to attempt to rescue them, I'll hold off applying the RoundUp for a while.
I'll just stand in my doorway and point the bottle threateningly in the
direction of the flower bed.


lol I'll keep this post and see what I can do...

With all the rain right now, maybe they could get well established
before another drought hits.
--
Peace, Om

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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

B. Server 28-07-2007 06:49 PM

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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:59:37 -0500, Omelet
wrote:

In article ,
Steve Wertz wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:11:22 -0500, Omelet wrote:

I don't find Virginia Creeper to be ugly at all. The leaf shape is very
pleasing to the eye.


In the right spot, and evenly distributed, it can be nice. But I
think most of the patches I see are unwanted and random. Plus I
think there are much better looking ivies if it's an intended
decoration.

Just my $.02.

-sw


Right now I have honeysuckle but it's getting choked out by the mustang
grapes. We mercilessly pruned those last weekend.

I also have asian jasmine and english ivy.


Speaking of which; does anyone have any ideas about how to KILL
mustang grapes once they are established and climbing trees?
Naturally, the point is for the trees to survive, but short of that
anything goes.

_BS

Omelet 28-07-2007 07:04 PM

Please help ID these "vines"
 
In article ,
B. Server wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:59:37 -0500, Omelet
wrote:

In article ,
Steve Wertz wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:11:22 -0500, Omelet wrote:

I don't find Virginia Creeper to be ugly at all. The leaf shape is very
pleasing to the eye.

In the right spot, and evenly distributed, it can be nice. But I
think most of the patches I see are unwanted and random. Plus I
think there are much better looking ivies if it's an intended
decoration.

Just my $.02.

-sw


Right now I have honeysuckle but it's getting choked out by the mustang
grapes. We mercilessly pruned those last weekend.

I also have asian jasmine and english ivy.


Speaking of which; does anyone have any ideas about how to KILL
mustang grapes once they are established and climbing trees?
Naturally, the point is for the trees to survive, but short of that
anything goes.

_BS


Cut them off at the base, then go from there.

I've never yet had them root from runners but they are not touching the
ground either.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

jOhN 29-07-2007 10:57 PM

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B. Server wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:59:37 -0500, Omelet
wrote:


In article ,
Steve Wertz wrote:


On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:11:22 -0500, Omelet wrote:


I don't find Virginia Creeper to be ugly at all. The leaf shape is very
pleasing to the eye.

In the right spot, and evenly distributed, it can be nice. But I
think most of the patches I see are unwanted and random. Plus I
think there are much better looking ivies if it's an intended
decoration.

Just my $.02.

-sw


Right now I have honeysuckle but it's getting choked out by the mustang
grapes. We mercilessly pruned those last weekend.

I also have asian jasmine and english ivy.



Speaking of which; does anyone have any ideas about how to KILL
mustang grapes once they are established and climbing trees?
Naturally, the point is for the trees to survive, but short of that
anything goes.

_BS



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