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Fred Johnson 29-04-2003 06:32 AM

Kill Bermuda?
 
What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?




Gene S 29-04-2003 12:20 PM

Kill Bermuda?
 
A day-laborer :-)



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"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
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What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?






chris 29-04-2003 12:56 PM

Kill Bermuda?
 
The product you need is Fusilade.

It is marketed under several names:

Grass B Gone, Ornamec, Green Light Bermudagrass Killer

A similar product is Poast Herbicide. It has a different

active ingredient but is the same in that it ONLY kills

grasses leaving other plants unharmed.

HTH,

Chris in Arid Austin

USDA Zn. 8b Sunset Zn. 30

P.S. Make sure you don't accidentally spray your Prize

Clump Grasses as it'll take those out as well.



"Fred Johnson" wrote in message ...
What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?






animaux 29-04-2003 01:32 PM

Kill Bermuda?
 
I spent six hours yesterday removing it by hand, in a patch approximately 5x9
feet. Or you can poison the soil, lizards, toads, snakes and every other thing
and go the synthetic chemical way.


On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 05:24:38 GMT, "Fred Johnson" wrote:

What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?




Mark A. Luna 29-04-2003 04:59 PM

Kill Bermuda?
 
A related question. Is there any type of mulch that Bermuda will not grow
in? When I had my house built the builder hydromulched the entire property
with Bermuda, apparently to minimize erosion during construction. Now I
have Bermuda everywhere.


Mark


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What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?






Texensis 29-04-2003 05:56 PM

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"animaux" wrote in message
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| I spent six hours yesterday removing it by hand, in a patch
approximately 5x9
| feet. Or you can poison the soil, lizards, toads, snakes and every
other thing
| and go the synthetic chemical way.
|
|
| On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 05:24:38 GMT, "Fred Johnson"
wrote:
|
| What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?
|
|
|

We've been working on a patch of Bermuda grass for decades and it just
won't quit. Now it's making a crack running halfway across the street
and growing wider every day! We've managed to sort of contain it but
never beat it back entirely.



animaux 29-04-2003 11:56 PM

Kill Bermuda?
 
Bermuda will grow no matter what you do. I've had bermuda come up through at
least a four foot deep pile of mulch (cedar and pine) The problem with it is
it's ability to lay dormant. Not an easy one.

On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:52:55 GMT, "Mark A. Luna" wrote:

A related question. Is there any type of mulch that Bermuda will not grow
in? When I had my house built the builder hydromulched the entire property
with Bermuda, apparently to minimize erosion during construction. Now I
have Bermuda everywhere.


Mark


"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
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What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?






animaux 29-04-2003 11:56 PM

Kill Bermuda?
 
On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:51:27 GMT, "Texensis"
wrote:


We've been working on a patch of Bermuda grass for decades and it just
won't quit. Now it's making a crack running halfway across the street
and growing wider every day! We've managed to sort of contain it but
never beat it back entirely.


I am not too sure if Finale is a broad leaf or full spectrum herbicide, but if
it will work on turf it's the better of the two, Round Up or Finale. If it is
judiciously painted on the blades, it may not be too harmful. Now, this goes
against everything I stand for, so I'm choking this out. I hate the ongoing
loosening and pulling I do each year, but each year a little less grows than the
year before. As I loosen and pull, I get more and more of the root because I
boost the tilth of the soil with compost. Looser soil makes it easier to pull
the full root and be done with that piece.

Texensis 30-04-2003 02:56 PM

Kill Bermuda?
 

"animaux" wrote in message
...
| Bermuda will grow no matter what you do. I've had bermuda come up
through at
| least a four foot deep pile of mulch (cedar and pine) The problem
with it is
| it's ability to lay dormant. Not an easy one.
|
snip|

And it needs n-o water to survive. Still yanking it up after all these
years.....



Joe Doe 30-04-2003 06:32 PM

Kill Bermuda?
 
In article ,
"Texensis" wrote:

"animaux" wrote in message
...
| Bermuda will grow no matter what you do. I've had bermuda come up
through at
| least a four foot deep pile of mulch (cedar and pine) The problem
with it is
| it's ability to lay dormant. Not an easy one.
|
snip|

And it needs n-o water to survive. Still yanking it up after all these
years.....


Does any kind of edging keep it out and contained? Around campus they
seem to be able to keep bermuda and beds separated so it appears to be
possible. While there is a landscaping crew it is not terribly intensive
so this seems to be achieved with minimal human input.

I wanted to be sure I bought edging of sufficient depth/height to achieve
the same end.

Roland

animaux 30-04-2003 08:56 PM

Kill Bermuda?
 
On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:15:09 -0500, (Joe Doe) wrote:


Does any kind of edging keep it out and contained? Around campus they
seem to be able to keep bermuda and beds separated so it appears to be
possible. While there is a landscaping crew it is not terribly intensive
so this seems to be achieved with minimal human input.

I wanted to be sure I bought edging of sufficient depth/height to achieve
the same end.

Roland


I have no idea if they use herbicides to maintain it. However, if you buy
edging, it should be at least 6 inches deep into the soil, and above the soil
the same. Don't leave any chinks in it or the bermuda will definitely migrate
over. Constant weeding it out and loosening soil to get the whole root will be
endless, but it can be done if you keep on top of it. Mid summer when it's 140
in the sun is hopeless. I bought a cheap 9 foot umbrella at Sam's Club and I
hammered pvc pipe into the soil all around so when I weed I can have some shade
on me.

V

Texensis 30-04-2003 10:32 PM

Kill Bermuda?
 

"Joe Doe" wrote in message
...
| In article
,
| "Texensis" wrote:
|
| "animaux" wrote in message
| ...
| | Bermuda will grow no matter what you do. I've had bermuda come
up
| through at
| | least a four foot deep pile of mulch (cedar and pine) The
problem
| with it is
| | it's ability to lay dormant. Not an easy one.
| |
| snip|
|
| And it needs n-o water to survive. Still yanking it up after all
these
| years.....
|
| Does any kind of edging keep it out and contained? Around campus
they
| seem to be able to keep bermuda and beds separated so it appears to
be
| possible. While there is a landscaping crew it is not terribly
intensive
| so this seems to be achieved with minimal human input.
|
| I wanted to be sure I bought edging of sufficient depth/height to
achieve
| the same end.
|
| Roland

I've seen metal edging pounded very deep and done in a double row
separated by a deep and maintained trench (not very wide, though)
between a Bermuda yard and a St. A yard where ne'er the twin did meet.



Terry Horton 30-04-2003 11:44 PM

Kill Bermuda?
 
On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:52:33 GMT, animaux wrote:

On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:51:27 GMT, "Texensis"
wrote:


We've been working on a patch of Bermuda grass for decades and it just
won't quit. Now it's making a crack running halfway across the street
and growing wider every day! We've managed to sort of contain it but
never beat it back entirely.


I am not too sure if Finale is a broad leaf or full spectrum herbicide, but if
it will work on turf it's the better of the two, Round Up or Finale. If it is
judiciously painted on the blades, it may not be too harmful. Now, this goes
against everything I stand for, so I'm choking this out.


:-)

Finale' is full spectrum but in my experience isn't very effective
against Bermuda. It's not readily translocated and acts primarily at
the point of contact. The bermuda leaves will die back and you think
you've got it, but new shoots quickly reappear from the (apparently)
unaffected stolons.

On the positive side, glufosinate is a natural compound. It's poor
movement into the root zone reduces the chance of toxicity to
surrounding plants. Also it's said to have a short half-life and break
down into harmless carbon compounds in the soil. However it is only
slightly less toxic "out of the bottle" than Roundup, so anyone
wishing to try Finale should use appropriate precautions.

I hate the ongoing loosening and pulling I do each year, but each
year a little less grows than the year before. As I loosen and pull,
I get more and more of the root because I boost the tilth of the soil
with compost. Looser soil makes it easier to pull
the full root and be done with that piece.


The patience of Jobe. :-)

animaux 01-05-2003 12:32 AM

Kill Bermuda?
 
On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:39:42 GMT, (Terry Horton) wrote:


The patience of Jobe. :-)


Also known as: "My compliance IS my defiance!" I've been unwavering in my
plight to do things to support nature. You will never see RoundUp in my tool
shed.

Norma Briggs 01-05-2003 03:09 AM

Kill Bermuda?
 
gasoline and a match?


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