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Wayne Dyer 10-05-2003 01:44 AM

Poison Oak?
 
Xref: 127.0.0.1 austin.gardening:21032

I've got what appears to be poison oak coming up from behind my property,
over and through my privacy fence. I can't easily get there to get rid of
it, and actually right behind my property is a utility easement where
power lines run.

Any ideas? This thing is about 7' tall, and I've no experience in dealing
with it.

-W-

Gary Harper 10-05-2003 02:08 AM

Poison Oak?
 
Poison it before it poisons you.


"Wayne Dyer" wrote in message
...
I've got what appears to be poison oak coming up from behind my property,
over and through my privacy fence. I can't easily get there to get rid of
it, and actually right behind my property is a utility easement where
power lines run.

Any ideas? This thing is about 7' tall, and I've no experience in dealing
with it.

-W-




animaux 10-05-2003 04:20 AM

Poison Oak?
 
http://www.knoledge.org/oak/identify.html

http://poisonivy.aesir.com/


On Sat, 10 May 2003 00:47:36 GMT, "Wayne Dyer"
wrote:

I've got what appears to be poison oak coming up from behind my property,
over and through my privacy fence. I can't easily get there to get rid of
it, and actually right behind my property is a utility easement where
power lines run.

Any ideas? This thing is about 7' tall, and I've no experience in dealing
with it.

-W-



G a e X a v i er 10-05-2003 07:44 AM

Poison Oak?
 
My research a year back for a consumer health company indicated that poison oak
does not grow anywhere near Austin. I used to have a map of where it is found in
the US but I've misplaced it.

If you are local, it is poison ivy and the only thing I have found to be effective
is Brush-B-Gone and it is dangerous stuff so you have to read the label and be
very careful where you spray it.

animaux wrote:

http://www.knoledge.org/oak/identify.html

http://poisonivy.aesir.com/

On Sat, 10 May 2003 00:47:36 GMT, "Wayne Dyer"
wrote:

I've got what appears to be poison oak coming up from behind my property,
over and through my privacy fence. I can't easily get there to get rid of
it, and actually right behind my property is a utility easement where
power lines run.

Any ideas? This thing is about 7' tall, and I've no experience in dealing
with it.

-W-



animaux 10-05-2003 02:32 PM

Poison Oak?
 
Even better, the poster said his "poison oak" was in a place he cannot get to,
so why do anything?


On Sat, 10 May 2003 01:49:28 -0500, G a e X a v i er wrote:

My research a year back for a consumer health company indicated that poison oak
does not grow anywhere near Austin. I used to have a map of where it is found in
the US but I've misplaced it.

If you are local, it is poison ivy and the only thing I have found to be effective
is Brush-B-Gone and it is dangerous stuff so you have to read the label and be
very careful where you spray it.

animaux wrote:

http://www.knoledge.org/oak/identify.html

http://poisonivy.aesir.com/

On Sat, 10 May 2003 00:47:36 GMT, "Wayne Dyer"
wrote:

I've got what appears to be poison oak coming up from behind my property,
over and through my privacy fence. I can't easily get there to get rid of
it, and actually right behind my property is a utility easement where
power lines run.

Any ideas? This thing is about 7' tall, and I've no experience in dealing
with it.

-W-



Wayne Dyer 10-05-2003 03:56 PM

Poison Oak?
 
On Sat, 10 May 2003 13:32:07 +0000, animaux wrote:

Even better, the poster said his "poison oak" was in a place he cannot
get to, so why do anything?


On Sat, 10 May 2003 01:49:28 -0500, G a e X a v i er
wrote:

My research a year back for a consumer health company indicated that
poison oak does not grow anywhere near Austin. I used to have a map of
where it is found in the US but I've misplaced it.

If you are local, it is poison ivy and the only thing I have found to be
effective is Brush-B-Gone and it is dangerous stuff so you have to read
the label and be very careful where you spray it.


Well, I can get to the top of the plant and to some of the things poking
through the fence. I might be able to hike around to the other side, but
I'd technically be trespassing to get there. I doubt anyone would care
much.

One of the reasons I posted was that the additional strangeness is that it
*looks* like poison oak, but I too was under the impression that poison
oak didn't grow around here. It just doesn't look like poison ivy, but
it's got berries.

I'm going to see if I can get to the other side and have a better look
today.

-W-


Larry 10-05-2003 04:56 PM

Poison Oak?
 
Rub some of it on your arm or leg and in a while you will not care if it is
Oak or Ivy - the stuff is lethal to me. Each time I get in contact with it
I wear a reminder for at least 3 weeks. On John Dromgule's site is a recipe
using vinegar and orange oil that kills it.
http://www.naturalgardeneraustin.com

"Wayne Dyer" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 May 2003 13:32:07 +0000, animaux wrote:

Even better, the poster said his "poison oak" was in a place he cannot
get to, so why do anything?


On Sat, 10 May 2003 01:49:28 -0500, G a e X a v i er
wrote:

My research a year back for a consumer health company indicated that
poison oak does not grow anywhere near Austin. I used to have a map of
where it is found in the US but I've misplaced it.

If you are local, it is poison ivy and the only thing I have found to be
effective is Brush-B-Gone and it is dangerous stuff so you have to read
the label and be very careful where you spray it.


Well, I can get to the top of the plant and to some of the things poking
through the fence. I might be able to hike around to the other side, but
I'd technically be trespassing to get there. I doubt anyone would care
much.

One of the reasons I posted was that the additional strangeness is that it
*looks* like poison oak, but I too was under the impression that poison
oak didn't grow around here. It just doesn't look like poison ivy, but
it's got berries.

I'm going to see if I can get to the other side and have a better look
today.

-W-




Gary Harper 11-05-2003 03:08 PM

Poison Oak?
 
I have never seen berries on poison oal or poison ivy. Are you sure that is
what it is?

"Wayne Dyer" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 May 2003 13:32:07 +0000, animaux wrote:

Even better, the poster said his "poison oak" was in a place he cannot
get to, so why do anything?


On Sat, 10 May 2003 01:49:28 -0500, G a e X a v i er
wrote:

My research a year back for a consumer health company indicated that
poison oak does not grow anywhere near Austin. I used to have a map of
where it is found in the US but I've misplaced it.

If you are local, it is poison ivy and the only thing I have found to be
effective is Brush-B-Gone and it is dangerous stuff so you have to read
the label and be very careful where you spray it.


Well, I can get to the top of the plant and to some of the things poking
through the fence. I might be able to hike around to the other side, but
I'd technically be trespassing to get there. I doubt anyone would care
much.

One of the reasons I posted was that the additional strangeness is that it
*looks* like poison oak, but I too was under the impression that poison
oak didn't grow around here. It just doesn't look like poison ivy, but
it's got berries.

I'm going to see if I can get to the other side and have a better look
today.

-W-




N. Woolley 11-05-2003 03:32 PM

Poison Oak?
 
Poison ivy (& oak) does have berries. ALL parts of the plant have the
awful irritating oils, even stems roots and berries. Poison ivy is
pretty in the fall, if it just weren't so dern nasty.

I've asked a botanist at the Wildflower Center about the poison ivy or
poison oak question and neither of us could figure out which was which
or if both grow here or if it even matters. Poison ivy was Rhus
toxicodendron and then was changed to Toxicodendron radicans and as far
as I know, poison oak botanically is included under that name. It all
makes me itch!

-Nancy


Rusty Mase 11-05-2003 03:56 PM

Poison Oak?
 
On Sat, 10 May 2003 15:54:53 GMT, "Larry" wrote:

Rub some of it on your arm or leg and in a while you will not care if it is
Oak or Ivy - the stuff is lethal to me.


Also, do not burn it and hang around with the smoke. I had a friend
who is sensitive to poison ivy do that and it was almost fatal.

Can you imagine poison ivy of the lungs?

Rusty Mase


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G a e X a v i er 12-05-2003 08:57 AM

Poison Oak?
 
When I did my research, this area (central Texas) was not included in the
poison oak range. The odd thing is that poison ivy has various leaf forms
and sometimes the leaves look more like what an "oak" leaf looks like so
people think that is what they are seeing.

Here are two poison ivy plants in my back yard. They almost look like two
different plants, but they are not. They are both poison ivy from what I
read an understood. The leaf shapes are variable on poison ivy, so...

It is all over my 1/2 acre, but I am not allergic, or at least I have not
developed and allergy to it YET. You can be not allergic and have no
reaction and then with frequent contact with it or anything else become
highly allergic.

http://home.austin.rr.com/libralove/...PoisonIvy.html

Best to All -- Gae

"N. Woolley" wrote:

Poison ivy (& oak) does have berries. ALL parts of the plant have the
awful irritating oils, even stems roots and berries. Poison ivy is
pretty in the fall, if it just weren't so dern nasty.

I've asked a botanist at the Wildflower Center about the poison ivy or
poison oak question and neither of us could figure out which was which
or if both grow here or if it even matters. Poison ivy was Rhus
toxicodendron and then was changed to Toxicodendron radicans and as far
as I know, poison oak botanically is included under that name. It all
makes me itch!

-Nancy



God Bless Texas 12-05-2003 09:56 PM

Poison Oak?
 
That's it, alright.

The giveaways (since the leaf shape can vary) for me are the reddish
stem/root, very green leaves, and three-leaf sprigs.

And yes, the first few times you may not react but WATCH OUT - this is a
very unpleasant few weeks. It spreads from the point of original contact to
all kinds of unusual and imaginative places, too.



Lisa 13-05-2003 09:56 PM

Poison Oak?
 
Just a quick comment, just in case you DO get poison ivy. I've had poison
ivy 5 times so far this year, each time worse than the last. These last
couple of times I've used a cream called Zanfel -- available at Eckerd's and
Walgreens. Clears it up within a couple of applications. Very expensive
($30 per once), but well, well worth it.




Cliff 17-05-2003 02:56 AM

Poison Oak?
 
It must be a terrible responsibility to be an expert on every subject.
"animaux" wrote in message
...
Even better, the poster said his "poison oak" was in a place he cannot get

to,
so why do anything?


On Sat, 10 May 2003 01:49:28 -0500, G a e X a v i er

wrote:

My research a year back for a consumer health company indicated that

poison oak
does not grow anywhere near Austin. I used to have a map of where it is

found in
the US but I've misplaced it.

If you are local, it is poison ivy and the only thing I have found to be

effective
is Brush-B-Gone and it is dangerous stuff so you have to read the label

and be
very careful where you spray it.

animaux wrote:

http://www.knoledge.org/oak/identify.html

http://poisonivy.aesir.com/

On Sat, 10 May 2003 00:47:36 GMT, "Wayne Dyer"


wrote:

I've got what appears to be poison oak coming up from behind my

property,
over and through my privacy fence. I can't easily get there to get

rid of
it, and actually right behind my property is a utility easement where
power lines run.

Any ideas? This thing is about 7' tall, and I've no experience in

dealing
with it.

-W-





John T. Jarrett 29-05-2003 06:20 PM

Poison Oak?
 
I missed the rest of this thread, but...

When I did field work, we kept cheap bottles of rubbing alcohol at the truck
to wash off all exposed areas of our bodies (arms, sometimes legs, and
(carefully!) faces) to get rid of the poison ivy oil before it got into the
skin. A shower with soap right after coming indoors is best, but, well, the
boss didn't really want you driving across town in the middle of the day to
take a shower you know? :)

I'm very allergic to it and only got it twice in two years using alcohol.
Normally I get it twice a month just from messing around in the yard!

hth,
John

"Lisa" wrote in message
gy.com...
Just a quick comment, just in case you DO get poison ivy. I've had poison
ivy 5 times so far this year, each time worse than the last. These last
couple of times I've used a cream called Zanfel -- available at Eckerd's

and
Walgreens. Clears it up within a couple of applications. Very expensive
($30 per once), but well, well worth it.







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