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shorty 05-08-2005 05:09 PM

Forgotten plant name - any help plz
 
Its low growing approx 2ft tall max, holly type leaves, masses of
juicey blackcurrant type fruit but without the tassle.

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/dump/plant.jpg

Nick Maclaren 05-08-2005 05:26 PM


In article ,
shorty writes:
| Its low growing approx 2ft tall max, holly type leaves, masses of
| juicey blackcurrant type fruit but without the tassle.
|
| http://www.balesfield.co.uk/dump/plant.jpg

Mahonia. I looked at the JPG only to confirm - it is very
distinctive. There are several species, but that looks like
M. aquifolium (also called Berberis aquifolium), a.k.a. the
Oregon grape.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

shorty 05-08-2005 06:23 PM

But Mahonia aquifolium is listed as growing to over 2m tall, which yes
my Mahonia that I have always known as a Mahonia certainly does grow
to that height and is very erect.

But this plant only grows to 2ft tall max and has a spreading habit,
so would this be Mahonia aquifolium 'Compactum'


Mahonia. I looked at the JPG only to confirm - it is very
distinctive. There are several species, but that looks like
M. aquifolium (also called Berberis aquifolium), a.k.a. the
Oregon grape.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.



Kay 05-08-2005 07:11 PM

In article , shorty
writes
But Mahonia aquifolium is listed as growing to over 2m tall,


Where?
I've seen it described as 'up to 2m' which is not quite the same. But I
don't think I've seen it growing anywhere near that. Couple of feet more
like.

which yes
my Mahonia that I have always known as a Mahonia certainly does grow
to that height and is very erect.

But this plant only grows to 2ft tall max and has a spreading habit,
so would this be Mahonia aquifolium 'Compactum'


Mahonia. I looked at the JPG only to confirm - it is very
distinctive. There are several species, but that looks like
M. aquifolium (also called Berberis aquifolium), a.k.a. the
Oregon grape.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.



--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Mike Lyle 05-08-2005 07:20 PM

Kay wrote:
In article , shorty
writes
But Mahonia aquifolium is listed as growing to over 2m tall,


Where?
I've seen it described as 'up to 2m' which is not quite the same.

But
I don't think I've seen it growing anywhere near that. Couple of

feet
more like.

[...]

Nick referred to the name "Oregon grape". I've often wondered if this
was a misleading name, or if the berries really are edible. And if
they are, are they eatable?

--
Mike.



Nick Maclaren 05-08-2005 08:26 PM

In article ,
Mike Lyle wrote:

Nick referred to the name "Oregon grape". I've often wondered if this
was a misleading name, or if the berries really are edible. And if
they are, are they eatable?


I believe that the answers are yes and marginally, respectively.
Most Berberis berries (it allied genus) are edible, but only a few
are worth eating.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Jaques d'Alltrades 05-08-2005 09:28 PM

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from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:

In article ,
shorty writes:
| Its low growing approx 2ft tall max, holly type leaves, masses of
| juicey blackcurrant type fruit but without the tassle.
|
|
http://www.balesfield.co.uk/dump/plant.jpg

Mahonia. I looked at the JPG only to confirm - it is very
distinctive. There are several species, but that looks like
M. aquifolium (also called Berberis aquifolium), a.k.a. the
Oregon grape.


My Oregon grape is around six feet...

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Jaques d'Alltrades 06-08-2005 08:56 AM

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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words:

Nick referred to the name "Oregon grape". I've often wondered if this
was a misleading name, or if the berries really are edible. And if
they are, are they eatable?


Yes. Not a lot of flavour but quite sharp. They make a good jelly for
eating with venison or lamb.

The pips are a bit gritty.

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Kay 06-08-2005 11:35 AM

In article , VivienB
writes
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 19:11:12 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , shorty
writes
But Mahonia aquifolium is listed as growing to over 2m tall,


Where?
I've seen it described as 'up to 2m' which is not quite the same. But I
don't think I've seen it growing anywhere near that. Couple of feet more
like.


Our Mahonias need moderately fierce annual pruning where we need to
keep them down to about 1m.


Is that M aquifolium or one of the other species? M aquifolium seems to
be relatively out of favour at the moment, and you don't see it around
as often.



--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Chris Hanson 07-08-2005 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shorty
Its low growing approx 2ft tall max, holly type leaves, masses of
juicey blackcurrant type fruit but without the tassle.

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/dump/plant.jpg

It is certainly a Mahonia. I didn't know that the berries are fit for human consumption, but I do know that the birds love them.
It is not a plant that I find 'attractive' and can see why it is 'out of favour' but it does have extraordinary plantability in a hedgerow or a boundary. It becomes a useful backdrop plant for a border if kept in check as its flower spikes are a perfect spring yellow blooming higher against an otherwise dull fence or boring green hedge.
Keep it but don't let it grow rampant if you don't have the space.


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