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ID two plants please
A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the
name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/ And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/ The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what others think. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
On 3/9/05 12:01, in article
, "Sacha" wrote: A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/ And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/ The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what others think. PS If it helps the friend is in Inverkeithing, Fife. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
"Sacha" wrote in message .uk... A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/ And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/ The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what others think. The latter isn't Himalayan Balsam, I'm sure of that. The former might be called 'Schoolgirl' but I wouldn't place money on it. Schoolgirl is a climber, and can get to 10 feet if you let it. Perhaps'Mrs Sam McGredy' also. Andy |
On 3/9/05 15:34, in article , "Andy"
wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message .uk... A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/ And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/ The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what others think. The latter isn't Himalayan Balsam, I'm sure of that. The former might be called 'Schoolgirl' but I wouldn't place money on it. Schoolgirl is a climber, and can get to 10 feet if you let it. Perhaps'Mrs Sam McGredy' also. I've seen a picture of the whole shrub now and it's definitely not a climber, more of a shrub rose or possibly a very old and slightly untended Hybrid Tea, I suppose. As to the former, the owner is thinking wild orchid.... -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
"Sacha" wrote ... A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/ And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/ The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what others think. Can't help with the rose as you might expect, but that "Orchid" doesn't look like any hardy Orchid I know, (with hairy leaves?) it's more like a Marsh Woundwort (Stachys palustris) http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/T1509.HTM -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London |
"Sacha" wrote after "Bob Hobden" replied to her A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/ And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/ The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what others think. Can't help with the rose as you might expect, but that "Orchid" doesn't look like any hardy Orchid I know, (with hairy leaves?) it's more like a Marsh Woundwort (Stachys palustris) http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/T1509.HTM Bingo! I'm sure you're right. Do we have to worry about it being invasive or anything weird like that? I say 'we' because I've asked for seeds of it - I think it's lovely! It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground (marshes, pond & stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country in suitable habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor. Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for introduction to the garden scene but it does flower late in the season. -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London |
"Sacha" wrote in message .uk... A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/ And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/ The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what others think. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The latter looks like a fasciated Lamium maculatum. Certainly not an orchid as titled. Best Wishes Brian |
Bob Hobden wrote:
"Sacha" wrote after "Bob Hobden" replied to her [...] Marsh Woundwort (Stachys palustris) http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/T1509.HTM Bingo! I'm sure you're right. Do we have to worry about it being invasive or anything weird like that? I say 'we' because I've asked for seeds of it - I think it's lovely! It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground (marshes, pond & stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country in suitable habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor. Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for introduction to the garden scene but it does flower late in the season. I've grown it, and found it was very durable, but for me not invasive. But in my particular location it had a rather freakish spot where moisture was plentiful a few inches below the surface, but heavy ground under a foot higher beside it tended to dry out in summer. (The whole of that part of the plot was artificial.) I found it absolutely delightful, flowering right through to late autumn, and wouldn't have been without it; but I suspect it might romp away in light moist soil with little competition. I'd try it. Purple loosestrife likes rather similar conditions, and is more vivid and a bit taller, if that's what you want; but its flowering season is summer only. -- Mike. |
In article , Sacha
writes A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/ And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/ The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what others think. It's a labiate. Looks like a pale hedge woundwort (Stachys sylvatica) so try Stachys palustris. -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
On 3/9/05 18:24, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote: "Sacha" wrote after "Bob Hobden" replied to her A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/ And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/ The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what others think. Can't help with the rose as you might expect, but that "Orchid" doesn't look like any hardy Orchid I know, (with hairy leaves?) it's more like a Marsh Woundwort (Stachys palustris) http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/T1509.HTM Bingo! I'm sure you're right. Do we have to worry about it being invasive or anything weird like that? I say 'we' because I've asked for seeds of it - I think it's lovely! It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground (marshes, pond & stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country in suitable habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor. Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for introduction to the garden scene but it does flower late in the season. Thanks, Bob. It's extraordinary that we've never seen it but I shall now open my eyes wider. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
"Sacha" wrote ... It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground (marshes, pond & stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country in suitable habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor. Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for introduction to the garden scene but it does flower late in the season. Thanks, Bob. It's extraordinary that we've never seen it but I shall now open my eyes wider. http://www.aphotoflora.com/page19.html Might help you locate some. -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London |
On 4/9/05 15:31, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote: "Sacha" wrote ... It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground (marshes, pond & stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country in suitable habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor. Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for introduction to the garden scene but it does flower late in the season. Thanks, Bob. It's extraordinary that we've never seen it but I shall now open my eyes wider. http://www.aphotoflora.com/page19.html Might help you locate some. What a great site! And yes, thank you - that's not too far away. -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) |
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Bob Hobden wrote: "Sacha" wrote after "Bob Hobden" replied to her [...] Marsh Woundwort (Stachys palustris) http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/T1509.HTM Bingo! I'm sure you're right. Do we have to worry about it being invasive or anything weird like that? I say 'we' because I've asked for seeds of it - I think it's lovely! It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground (marshes, pond & stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country in suitable habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor. Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for introduction to the garden scene but it does flower late in the season. I've grown it, and found it was very durable, but for me not invasive. But in my particular location it had a rather freakish spot where moisture was plentiful a few inches below the surface, but heavy ground under a foot higher beside it tended to dry out in summer. (The whole of that part of the plot was artificial.) I found it absolutely delightful, flowering right through to late autumn, and wouldn't have been without it; but I suspect it might romp away in light moist soil with little competition. I'd try it. Purple loosestrife likes rather similar conditions, and is more vivid and a bit taller, if that's what you want; but its flowering season is summer only. I would endorse this but would be more cautious about where to grow it. I have it in two places. One is a wild area where it is in competition with quite vigorous grasses. I love it there and in a few years the patch has quite slowly expanded. The other is in a flower bed where it arrived uninvited. It does spread. I pull it up once or twice a year and it returns from roots which are perhaps slightly like bindweed but not quite as persistent. I wouldn't introduce it to a flower-bed myself. However, my garden is in the Fens so I guess it's very much at home here. Janet G |
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