A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the
name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/
And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/


The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what
others think.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

On 3/9/05 12:01, in article
, "Sacha"
wrote:

A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the
name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/
And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/


The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what
others think.

PS If it helps the friend is in Inverkeithing, Fife.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the
name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/
And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/


The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what
others think.
The latter isn't Himalayan Balsam, I'm sure of that. The former might be
called 'Schoolgirl' but I wouldn't place money on it. Schoolgirl is a
climber, and can get to 10 feet if you let it. Perhaps'Mrs Sam McGredy'
also.

Andy

On 3/9/05 15:34, in article , "Andy"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the
name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/
And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/


The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what
others think.
The latter isn't Himalayan Balsam, I'm sure of that. The former might be
called 'Schoolgirl' but I wouldn't place money on it. Schoolgirl is a
climber, and can get to 10 feet if you let it. Perhaps'Mrs Sam McGredy'
also.

I've seen a picture of the whole shrub now and it's definitely not a
climber, more of a shrub rose or possibly a very old and slightly untended
Hybrid Tea, I suppose. As to the former, the owner is thinking wild
orchid....
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

"Sacha" wrote ...
A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the
name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/
And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/


The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what
others think.

Can't help with the rose as you might expect, but that "Orchid" doesn't look
like any hardy Orchid I know, (with hairy leaves?) it's more like a Marsh
Woundwort (Stachys palustris)

http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/T1509.HTM

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

On 3/9/05 17:39, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote ...
A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the
name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/
And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/


The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what
others think.

Can't help with the rose as you might expect, but that "Orchid" doesn't look
like any hardy Orchid I know, (with hairy leaves?) it's more like a Marsh
Woundwort (Stachys palustris)

http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/T1509.HTM

Bingo! I'm sure you're right. Do we have to worry about it being invasive
or anything weird like that? I say 'we' because I've asked for seeds of it
- I think it's lovely!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

"Sacha" wrote
after "Bob Hobden" replied to her

A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows
the
name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/
And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/


The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know
what
others think.

Can't help with the rose as you might expect, but that "Orchid" doesn't
look
like any hardy Orchid I know, (with hairy leaves?) it's more like a Marsh
Woundwort (Stachys palustris)

http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/T1509.HTM

Bingo! I'm sure you're right. Do we have to worry about it being
invasive
or anything weird like that? I say 'we' because I've asked for seeds of
it
- I think it's lovely!

It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground (marshes, pond &
stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country in suitable
habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor.
Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for introduction
to the garden scene but it does flower late in the season.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows
the
name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/
And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/


The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what
others think.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The latter looks like a fasciated Lamium maculatum.
Certainly not an orchid as titled.
Best Wishes Brian

Bob Hobden wrote:
"Sacha" wrote
after "Bob Hobden" replied to her
[...]
Marsh Woundwort (Stachys palustris)

http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/T1509.HTM

Bingo! I'm sure you're right. Do we have to worry about it being
invasive
or anything weird like that? I say 'we' because I've asked for
seeds of it
- I think it's lovely!

It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground
(marshes,
pond & stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country
in suitable habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor.
Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for
introduction to the garden scene but it does flower late in the
season.

I've grown it, and found it was very durable, but for me not
invasive. But in my particular location it had a rather freakish spot
where moisture was plentiful a few inches below the surface, but
heavy ground under a foot higher beside it tended to dry out in
summer. (The whole of that part of the plot was artificial.) I found
it absolutely delightful, flowering right through to late autumn, and
wouldn't have been without it; but I suspect it might romp away in
light moist soil with little competition. I'd try it. Purple
loosestrife likes rather similar conditions, and is more vivid and a
bit taller, if that's what you want; but its flowering season is
summer only.

--
Mike.

In article , Sacha
writes
A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows the
name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/
And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/


The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know what
others think.

It's a labiate. Looks like a pale hedge woundwort (Stachys sylvatica) so
try Stachys palustris.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

On 3/9/05 18:24, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote
after "Bob Hobden" replied to her

A friend of my daughter lives in Scotland and has asked if anyone knows
the
name of this rose: http://www.deviantart.com/view/21967616/
And of this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22494893/


The latter looks like some kind of Balsam to me but I'd love to know
what
others think.

Can't help with the rose as you might expect, but that "Orchid" doesn't
look
like any hardy Orchid I know, (with hairy leaves?) it's more like a Marsh
Woundwort (Stachys palustris)

http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/T1509.HTM

Bingo! I'm sure you're right. Do we have to worry about it being
invasive
or anything weird like that? I say 'we' because I've asked for seeds of
it
- I think it's lovely!

It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground (marshes, pond &
stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country in suitable
habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor.
Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for introduction
to the garden scene but it does flower late in the season.

Thanks, Bob. It's extraordinary that we've never seen it but I shall now
open my eyes wider.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

"Sacha" wrote ...

It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground (marshes, pond
&
stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country in suitable
habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor.
Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for
introduction
to the garden scene but it does flower late in the season.

Thanks, Bob. It's extraordinary that we've never seen it but I shall now
open my eyes wider.

http://www.aphotoflora.com/page19.html
Might help you locate some.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

On 4/9/05 15:31, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote ...

It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground (marshes, pond
&
stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country in suitable
habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor.
Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for
introduction
to the garden scene but it does flower late in the season.

Thanks, Bob. It's extraordinary that we've never seen it but I shall now
open my eyes wider.

http://www.aphotoflora.com/page19.html
Might help you locate some.

What a great site! And yes, thank you - that's not too far away.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words:

Bob Hobden wrote:
"Sacha" wrote
after "Bob Hobden" replied to her
[...]
Marsh Woundwort (Stachys palustris)

http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/T1509.HTM

Bingo! I'm sure you're right. Do we have to worry about it being
invasive
or anything weird like that? I say 'we' because I've asked for
seeds of it
- I think it's lovely!

It's a native perennial wild flower of unshaded wet ground
(marshes,
pond & stream edges, ditches, etc) and is seen all over the country
in suitable habitat. Probably some local to you up on the moor.
Having never cultivated it I'm unsure of it's suitability for
introduction to the garden scene but it does flower late in the
season.

I've grown it, and found it was very durable, but for me not
invasive. But in my particular location it had a rather freakish spot
where moisture was plentiful a few inches below the surface, but
heavy ground under a foot higher beside it tended to dry out in
summer. (The whole of that part of the plot was artificial.) I found
it absolutely delightful, flowering right through to late autumn, and
wouldn't have been without it; but I suspect it might romp away in
light moist soil with little competition. I'd try it. Purple
loosestrife likes rather similar conditions, and is more vivid and a
bit taller, if that's what you want; but its flowering season is
summer only.

I would endorse this but would be more cautious about where to grow it.

I have it in two places. One is a wild area where it is in competition
with quite vigorous grasses. I love it there and in a few years the
patch has quite slowly expanded. The other is in a flower bed where it
arrived uninvited. It does spread. I pull it up once or twice a year and
it returns from roots which are perhaps slightly like bindweed but not
quite as persistent. I wouldn't introduce it to a flower-bed myself.
However, my garden is in the Fens so I guess it's very much at home
here.

Janet G