Black grape advice
 

Good afternoon, my 5 yr old grape has again produced very little this year,
3 very small bunches. Before I do anything this year regarding this
vine,after previously letting it grow- getting no crop. Pruning and getting
no crop, I have nothing to lose trying something else. So any advice please
would be appreciated.
The vine is in my greenhouse rising to about 6ft then going 90 degrees along
the roof, with plenty of growth along it's length. Go on someone tell me
what is the best way to get a crop next year.
Thanks
Mike


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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:31:58 GMT, "Mike Fitzpatrick"
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Good afternoon, my 5 yr old grape has again produced very little this year,
3 very small bunches. Before I do anything this year regarding this
vine,after previously letting it grow- getting no crop. Pruning and getting
no crop, I have nothing to lose trying something else. So any advice please
would be appreciated.
The vine is in my greenhouse rising to about 6ft then going 90 degrees along
the roof, with plenty of growth along it's length. Go on someone tell me
what is the best way to get a crop next year.

Mike, what size were the grapes on the small bunches? I have what was
given to me as Black Hamburg. It has been on my allotment for 10 years
and took a few years to fruit at all, but the bunches and the grapes
are small, and often don't ripen outside. (Not your problem)
If you can find the Gardening section from last Satuday's Telegraph,
there is a useful article about growing with variety recommendations.
Somebody here may have a spare they can send you. It says you should
not let it fruit for 3 years!


Pam in Bristol

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Good afternoon, my 5 yr old grape has again produced very little this year,
3 very small bunches. Before I do anything this year regarding this
vine,after previously letting it grow- getting no crop. Pruning and getting
no crop, I have nothing to lose trying something else. So any advice please
would be appreciated.
The vine is in my greenhouse rising to about 6ft then going 90 degrees along
the roof, with plenty of growth along it's length. Go on someone tell me
what is the best way to get a crop next year.

When the leaves have fallen, cut all the laterals back to two buds (if
it's a fairly mature vine. If it's only a few years old, leave it at one
bud.)

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In the spring, allow both buds to produce new laterals, and *AFTER THE
FLOWERS HAVE SET FRUIT*, remove each weaker lateral, and prune the other
one back to around three leaves past the young bunch.

Leave no more than two bunches on a lateral, and it is better to leave
only the one.

Do *NOT* prune too early, as the cut will not heal, and the vine will
lose a lot of sap, and may even bleed to death.

After the fruit has set, you should be able to trim it mercilessly -
some leaves are necessary, of course, but new laterals may be removed
wholesale.

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Thanks Pam, the size is about the size of a marrowfat pea maybe a bit
bigger.(all ripening tho') I have in the past had really good fruit taste
and size it is just the last 3 I have had very very little, last year none
at all. Any help?
Mike

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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:31:58 GMT, "Mike Fitzpatrick"
wrote:

Good afternoon, my 5 yr old grape has again produced very little this
year,
3 very small bunches. Before I do anything this year regarding this
vine,after previously letting it grow- getting no crop. Pruning and
getting
no crop, I have nothing to lose trying something else. So any advice
please
would be appreciated.
The vine is in my greenhouse rising to about 6ft then going 90 degrees
along
the roof, with plenty of growth along it's length. Go on someone tell me
what is the best way to get a crop next year.

Mike, what size were the grapes on the small bunches? I have what was
given to me as Black Hamburg. It has been on my allotment for 10 years
and took a few years to fruit at all, but the bunches and the grapes
are small, and often don't ripen outside. (Not your problem)
If you can find the Gardening section from last Satuday's Telegraph,
there is a useful article about growing with variety recommendations.
Somebody here may have a spare they can send you. It says you should
not let it fruit for 3 years!


Pam in Bristol

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Thanks Pam, the size is about the size of a marrowfat pea maybe a bit
bigger.(all ripening tho') I have in the past had really good fruit taste
and size it is just the last 3 I have had very very little, last year none
at all. Any help?

Just don't feed it nitrogen. Bone meal, sulphate of potash etc might
help. If it's that established, water should be no problem, though
giving the roots a soaking from time to time certainly won't hurt.

Traditionally, the French would say 'plant it over a dead donkey', but
vines are really not fussy: a politician or double-glazing salesman
would do almost as well. [1]

[1] but in French

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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:29:11 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

Traditionally, the French would say 'plant it over a dead donkey', but
vines are really not fussy: a politician or double-glazing salesman
would do almost as well.

Or as someone on GQT once asked after she had put a question to the
panel about growing vines, and Bob Flowerdew mentioned the dead
donkey, "Would next soor's cat do?".


Pam in Bristol